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07 Feb 2009, 11:13 am

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Somehow you said exactly what I needed to hear.


That was indeed my intention.


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07 Feb 2009, 11:27 am

That's why everyone hates me. I lift a mirror up to their faces, they're forced to face themselves and get a bad feeling and avoid me forever from then onwards. I've learnt in recent years to be very alert and stop myself before I do it, but I sometimes still am spontaneous and blunder, like in that post. Now I'm the one with the queasy feeling, because you've held a mirror to my face and I see how I alienate people. :(


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07 Feb 2009, 11:48 am

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Picking Up Social Situations Intuitively....

is the heart of my hole.

i have no idea what runs through a persons mind. no matter what their words or facial "expressions" are, i can not begin to see what they are feeling.

i am not capable of interpreting unspoken things.

there are some soap operas on TV that consist of nothing but various camera shots of facial expressions. there are no words. there is just expressions.

i wonder how anyone can follow what is happening but i fail to understand.

i know that wolves all feel an urge to respond to the sound of other howling wolves, and i know that every well adjusted animal hearkens to "the call of the wild".

but i hearken to nothing at all except my own subjective experience.



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07 Feb 2009, 12:02 pm

Greentea wrote:
That's why everyone hates me. I lift a mirror up to their faces, they're forced to face themselves and get a bad feeling and avoid me forever from then onwards. I've learnt in recent years to be very alert and stop myself before I do it, but I sometimes still am spontaneous and blunder, like in that post. Now I'm the one with the queasy feeling, because you've held a mirror to my face and I see how I alienate people. :(

Maybe you make people uneasy because you're so intelligent.

Intelligence is a mixed blessing. Other intelligent people will respect you but people who you make aware of their intellectual inferiority will feel shamed, envious and decide to resent you in order to avoid their own feelings of insecurity. This is especially true for people who believe they are higher on the 'social ladder'. These peope can't stand being made to feel like idiots.



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Millie....I can relate a lot to what you are saying.....Also.....I empathize with animals quite well....they are honest. I understand them and respect them. I also sense things about humans....FAKE human behavior is SO OBVIOUS and to me, the strange thing is.....nts generally CAN'T see it, or at least don't acknowledge this fake behavior's existence......to me it (fake behavior) is obscene. That's not an exaggeration.


What you and Millie said, it sounds so familiar. Glad to know there are others who have this, as no other Aspies I know have this same 'intuition'. The people who help me live on my own, were *very* amazed that I was capable of feeling certain situations, which NT's couldn't feel.

I am even capable of describing how someone feels, by looking at their eyes. But then again, I realize I'm an Aspie, and become unsure if I'm right about what others feel, due to the knowledge of us Aspies not being able to read emotions correctly...



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07 Feb 2009, 2:19 pm

My issue is that I need to be told things directly and explicitly, and that I cannot rely on hidden messages or silence to find out what someone is saying.



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07 Feb 2009, 2:38 pm

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I think Aspies (as such) are simply appalled by insincerity, when they can detect it.
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My pov is that we detect it very well. [I think the majority of low functioning autistics have their radar for insincerity even more finely tuned than Aspies.] So well in fact--that we can almost smell it from a mile or more away. But...and this is key....we simply can't comprehend it, let alone do it. Most of us are highly aware at least unconsciously that 90% of the ranking rituals require us to do it...

We try to process it and it doesn't process.... We mentally and visually--turn it over, spin it around, get it inside out....change our vantage point...nothing works. We just don't get it. Some of us present as so naive or what NTs call "ret*d"....because we aren't wired to perform or understand insincerity. Furthermore, we are wired to detest it....it is so foreign to who we are. We don't understand pretending to be one way and actually being another way. For us there is only one way and that is just to be. I think most of us are appalled and find NT society obscene...and a waste of time.

We're so very adept at analyzing everything in depth... way beyond normal conceptions of indepth...what we can do is scarey...

But no matter how we try to get it....very very few of us can understand duplicity and insincerity. And bullies pick up on that from a mile away..we are their perfect prey.....Bullies and autistics are like matter and anti-matter.



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