Tantybi wrote:
And, as for the smoking ban, I think it didn't originate in California. It did on state level, but I think it originated, the concept, from The People's Republic of Boulder, aka Boulder, Colorado. They are trying now, and succeeding, to make it illegal to smoke outside. Yeah, people hide in alleys to sneak a smoke. And, banning it from bars is ridiculous. Like the alcohol is completely safe to drink with no harmful effects on your liver nor does drunk driving never happen nor cause any deaths. Hell, they have more proof that alcohol kills than they do smoking. Yet we drink without that cigarette.
Now, should we be allowed to shoot drunk drivers out of self defense?
The big problem with smoking in bars is that the workers are exposed to all that second-hand smoke. I worked as a bartender many moons ago, in SFO, and this was quite the topic.
I have known two people personally, one who came away with emphysema, and one with lung cancer - from working in bars. Both were in their 20's and both didn't smoke.
Sure, drinking comes with its own set of hazards - but no occupational hazards that can be linked as easily as second-hand smoke.
And despite the stereotypes - many restaurant/bar workers are healthnuts/athletes. (The money is quite good and the hours flexible.)
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