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29 May 2018, 2:57 pm

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A person can do whatever they want with themselves as far as I'm concerned. But when that person wants to get others involved then it's not just limited to them any longer. Like wanting someone to travel long distance across an international border to visit them for a demonstration, consultation, whatever.

"I've done this and you need to do it too" "you need to come visit me" etc. If you started posting stuff like that kraftie, about whatever, I'd think the butter slipped off your noodle.

As a sidenote when I think about homeopathic self treatment I think about how Steve Jobs went that route when he probably could have been saved if he had left his treatment up to qualified experts. He finally realized what a huge mistake he made after it was too late and he was plenty intelligent.


That's right, I can do, and do do, whatever I want with myself. Same same for everyone else here.

If you were me and improved your ASD functioning level as much as I have, you'd share it with everyone afflicted by the same condition, too. And then you'd put up with the horrendous negativity & insults from people because you know your message is true despite their disbelief & that it can help people.

Why are you misquoting me? :? I've never once written any of those words. I've said I've done this, and you Can, too. I never ever said you need to come visit me. You don't believe me, so, I invited you to my home & offered to cook dinner so that you can sit live in front of me and hear my voice, see my mannerisms, and know that I am speaking the God's honest truth.

What I do is not considered Homeopathic. It's definitely much more along the lines of Naturopathic. There's a big difference between the two types of medicine & thinking.


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29 May 2018, 2:58 pm

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It's also why a number of people with serious mental health problems commit petty crimes in order to get thrown in jail and locked up where they have a place to stay and food to eat etc. The ideal solution sort of places simply don't exist.


And guess what? The taxpayers end up having to still support them anyway with three hots and a cot. So, how is money being saved? And, how much are the indirect costs to society for the crimes being committed like police having to respond while other more serious crimes are being committed and court costs? And, jurors who have to go there? What exactly is being saved by not having institutions and/or training programs?

You even mentioned about being a danger to oneself or to others. Ok! Why even have the part about being a danger to one's self? Wouldn't the most cost effective way to deal with me is to allow me to kill myself if I went down that route? Why lock me up in the first place for a few days to just provide me three hots and a cot which is costly as well? Why save me only to put me back in the same situation that led to me killing myself in the first place?

Instead, wouldn't the most cost effective thing to do is to let me kill myself, cremate me and put my ashes in potter's field?


I see GF ignored this.


Intentionally, because I am a "Never give up!" kind of person and am not going to advocate for or justify suicide.


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29 May 2018, 3:02 pm

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No one is going to hold your hand through every step of seeking, applying for, obtaining, and keeping a job.


Here's the thing. Whenever I asked others questions about the steps a number of ppl will say it is common sense. If it is common sense then shouldn't they be able to explain and scaffold it to me with little cost, time and effort? Doesn't common sense mean sound judgement that applies across the whole board or group that is so obvious that it requires little thought? You're saying it would cost to much in money, energy, and time. How? If it is common sense how would it cost a lot to scaffold these things to me?


It's common sense to Most people and Most people don't need to be taught things that they intuitively know how to do. Because of this, they can't teach them to other people. They weren't taught to them, they're simply things that don't require explanation, and so for someone to try to figure out how to teach them to others is damned near impossible so they just roll their eyes and carry on. There's a million little things to "common sense," that cannot be taught. In my experience, though, when you "turn on the social circuitry," of the enteric nervous system via diet, cleanses, and probiotics, your brain & body function much more NT and these things become intuitive knowledge & actions for yourself. I've caught myself noticing countless things like this that would have otherwise simply just gone right over my head in more "ASD mode."


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29 May 2018, 3:09 pm

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I'm SURE Goldfish will come back.

He was too busy last night carousing with the other beach denizens.

Then he had to get up for work this morning.

He's a hard worker, and a hard player.


I do hope he enjoyed the beach. I'm curious as to what GF does for work.


At the moment I am an Apprentice Taper. Usually I work on commercial sites making walls & ceilings smooth and corners crisp for painters to come along and do their thing, but sometimes I do repair work, too. Here's a patch job I did a few months ago:

Before: (and note these idiots cut the angles across the top/corner etc so I had to re-tape everything, not just the patch.)

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After: (but before paint)

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And a medical note: 6 years ago I couldn't use my fingers for f**k all without taking Dexedrine (Dexroamphetamine) - I haven't taken that s**t for years & I do finishing work with trowels & putty knives. Even my balance and coordination have dramatically improved. Gone are the days of dyspraxia symptoms limiting my abilities - like when I was 15 years old and was so rigid when I ran that they called me Forest Gump ffs. Diet, gut healing, intestinal cleanses & probiotics = dramatic improvement in all comorbids.


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29 May 2018, 3:12 pm

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He seems to work in construction. And perhaps does some "personal assistant" type things.

I know a guy like that---except he's more a "personal assistant" than a construction worker. He used to be a process server. He also used to go from mental hospital to mental hospital until he acquired sort of a belief in "positive thinking." Which I'll never acquire.

In other words, a person who earns money on the run, so to speak.

Which is cool by me.


That's cool!

I do have a question. Am I supposed to actually genuinely be positive or is one expected to project oneself as positive and optimistic and completely fake positivism and optimism. If the latter is simply the case then I can read the books and simply fake and script it. Does genuineness matter or not?


Genuine is better if you can figure out how to achieve it, but if not, then "Fake it 'til you make it!"


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29 May 2018, 3:16 pm

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For those who supposedly believe in me and claim I'm to negative would you hire me yourself even for a janitor? Next time someone gives me the "you're to negative BS" I'm going to ask them so will you be optimistic yourself and hire me and give me a chance in your company or if you had a company yourself? You believe in me and my abilities. You believe in my intelligence. Would you hire me yourself for any position in your company or if you have one for even a janitor position. If you won't hire me then it's time to call a spade a spade and I'm going to call them a liar.

I'm sick and tired of being told I can do anything I set my mind to and I need to be more positive and I'm intelligent I can do this. f**k that noise! If you truthfully believe these things and I'm worthwhile then train me, invest in me and hire me if you have a company. If you do not would you do these things or would I be to costly to you? If I'm to costly then logically how can you believe in me, believe that my intelligence will help and how will my being positive help at all?


I would. You're difficult at times, but you show promise in your open minded attitude about learning and doing new things vs. simply.. not. Because of how much I know about you, and ASD, and my own struggles several years ago when my symptoms were much stronger, I'd know how to work with you to improve your productivity & would simply accept an ultra low productivity figure in the beginning and consider it a cost of doing business as well as a, not charitable, but more.. philanthropic investment in you. If my hypothetical firm had the money to burn, I'd put you to work expecting very little return on investment until you learned how to do things faster/better.

There are employers out there like that. I've worked with disabled people that bosses keep around because they know they need a job and money, even if they could hire a younger man who's more able bodied than the 67yo stroke victim.. but they pay him to clean up their construction sites because he does a damned good job with a can-do attitude & is a human in need of money to survive.


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29 May 2018, 3:20 pm

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I agree with you on some things. Goldfish on others.

I know you get perturbed with Goldfish, and vice versa.

But then I think----maybe you two are having fun with this.

I hope you two grab a beer afterwards....like in that Warner Brothers cartoon with the sheepdog and the wolf----where the sheepdog is protecting the sheep from the wolf 8 hours a day (they both punch in). Then, after the 8 hours is over, they grab a beer together.


KK, I think GF has his faults but is a pretty cool guy. s**t, I have my faults as well. I'm not perfect. Far from it. I don't drink but I wouldn't mind grabbing a bite to eat or just chilling out at the beach with him just talking about philosophy and s**t. And, I loved that cartoon as well. And, ya know what's funny I do accept a fractional part of what GF says as true.


Hell, the three of you can come to the beach with me.. and for every beer you don't drink & toke you don't have, I'm gonna have 3. :mrgreen: And then you can drive me home. :P (I only ever drink 1 or 2 depending on how long I'm going to be there, as we have the strictest drinking driving laws in the world at 0.05 BAC) BUT, if you're driving.. I'll drink a few just so I can manage debating what colour the sky is with EzraS. :mrgreen:

And on that note, it's time for me to eat & pack my bag and head to the beach asap where I'll surely take another Wreck Beach sunset pic around 21:00. Feel free to add me & see allll the Sunsets I see. (one WP member added me last week when I offered) https://www.facebook.com/rsiecahnard


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29 May 2018, 3:59 pm

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I agree with you on some things. Goldfish on others.

I know you get perturbed with Goldfish, and vice versa.

But then I think----maybe you two are having fun with this.

I hope you two grab a beer afterwards....like in that Warner Brothers cartoon with the sheepdog and the wolf----where the sheepdog is protecting the sheep from the wolf 8 hours a day (they both punch in). Then, after the 8 hours is over, they grab a beer together.


KK, I think GF has his faults but is a pretty cool guy. s**t, I have my faults as well. I'm not perfect. Far from it. I don't drink but I wouldn't mind grabbing a bite to eat or just chilling out at the beach with him just talking about philosophy and s**t. And, I loved that cartoon as well. And, ya know what's funny I do accept a fractional part of what GF says as true.


Hell, the three of you can come to the beach with me.. and for every beer you don't drink & toke you don't have, I'm gonna have 3. :mrgreen: And then you can drive me home. :P (I only ever drink 1 or 2 depending on how long I'm going to be there, as we have the strictest drinking driving laws in the world at 0.05 BAC) BUT, if you're driving.. I'll drink a few just so I can manage debating what colour the sky is with EzraS. :mrgreen:

And on that note, it's time for me to eat & pack my bag and head to the beach asap where I'll surely take another Wreck Beach sunset pic around 21:00. Feel free to add me & see allll the Sunsets I see. (one WP member added me last week when I offered) https://www.facebook.com/rsiecahnard


Awesome facebook page and beautiful scenery. If I'm reading some of your posts right we both have something in common. We don't like Trump.



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29 May 2018, 4:40 pm

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The USA is a diverse country of more than 300 Million people, which include employers that are disability friendly.


BS!


I've read about some, seen their posts & promo videos on Facebook. Here, in less than 1 second google returns 170,000 results for the search term (not in quotes) "disability friendly employer USA."

https://www.google.ca/search?q=disabili ... e&ie=UTF-8

So, they exist. So much so that the first hit is a directory for them. Also, there are American members of this forum who have gotten their jobs through organizations that help disabled people get jobs. They may not be every employer (duh), but, they exist. Like I said, in a diverse country of more than 300 Million people, there are disability friendly employers. Some more friendly to specific disabilities, like accommodations for wheelchairs, or deaf people, and some, even specifically, for Autism. While the company is headed in Germany, I saw an ad last year from SAP (ERP software company - the best in the world) specifically seeking people on the spectrum because they Know that they are best suited for the type of coding & debugging work they need done.


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Your message is to tell me that it is my attitude (as though attitude controls time and space) that is the cause of my issues when I explain my reality to you therefore denying my reality. I'm expected to accept a cultish belief system (which has some truth to it) w/o question that you and others in our nation promote which logic, reason and common sense can easily disprove and then you try to promote on here questionable methods and tactics in a long list without being a doctor or medical professional.


But it is your attitude that differs from those who are gainfully employed, so, who's is "wrong?" If the "norm," of a belief system is so illogical & unreasonable, why does it work for countless other people who are out working their jobs and living their lives?

I don't believe your attitude & perceptions are by choice. They simply Are. I believe this because 6 years ago I used to think like you, and guess what results I got? The ones you're getting. I didn't change the way I think by reading books about positivity (although, I did read them.), I changed the way I think by healing myself. By learning what foods and things I was putting in my body were causing the chemical shitstorm necessary to make my thinking that way, and how to heal my digestive system in order to improve all of that so that I can now tolerate eating those foods without negatively impacting my headspace with an accumulation of food acids that trips out the brain, executive functions, and causes horrible negative thoughts/perceptions as well as passively suicidal thoughts. It's science, not make believe woo-woo wishy washy just believe in myself BS. It's biology & chemistry.

I have never once claimed to be a medical professional. I've been very transparent about the fact that I am an Autistic man who figured out what was causing my ASD symptoms to go WILD and how to treat them via diet and medicine in order to raise my functioning level to where it's at now so that I can work, live, and play in the social world as I do, and then I shared that with the community here - the people it can help most. That's it that's all.

You like facts, empirical evidence, statistics, hard science vs. my experiential word, and now they exist because medical research is catching up to what I learned over 5 years ago and the proof is now well documented to back up the anecdotal claims I've made. cube, read this, it'll take an hour or so, but read it All, and then come back and tell me how crazy you think I am for telling y'all that healing & balancing my gut has resulted in night & day dramatic improvement in my ASD functioning levels: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5408485/ It's all there, cube, written by 4 medical doctors from around the world who drew their data & information from 157 separate ASD & other medical studies in order to compile it into what's there. One brief article Deepthought 7 shared here stated that the lead doctor on the study, Dr. Li (MD of Paediatrics at Peking University First Hospital in Beijing) concluded that he believes it may be possible to develop a simple & cost effective treatment for ASD based on this research. It's impossible to find contact information for him w/o being a University researcher, but I did find contact info for one of the other doctors who's in California and emailed her - because I've already been doing for 5 years what they hypothesized 1 year ago might be possible to do in the future. You can continue to think I'm crazy all you want, that's your choice, but this is legitimately an emerging area of medicine and I am at the forefront of it. Click and read the study, it'll explain in far better medical detail what I don't have the specialized knowledge to explain.


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I have ignored your condescending tone for the longest so I could keep an open mind to other possibilities including what you say. I will read your book you sent me and I will read your stuff but you refuse to see or accept a different way of thinking and others don't think like you. I said the marijuana insults b/c I was frustrated with you. Ya, maybe I should not have said it but come on dude. I'm willing to open my mind to differing possibilities even a possibility I could be wrong. I accept it as true that perception is reality once you explained it further. I can see why ASS-P and Ezra don't like you. My advice: Get a professional to test your theory of mind.


Your perception is that I'm condescending, mine isn't. You at least try to keep an open mind, until you get frustrated and lash out with insults instead of any sort of argument - but - at least you Try. I've told you before, and I just told you again, I used to think a different way than I do now. I used to think like you, or sly279, or Marknis, but then I learned what was causing my thoughts to be that way and how to treat it via diet & medicine, and now I think how I do. This is not the result of "installing a new operating system," & "overwriting code," via reading words in a book. I also have been abundantly transparent about the fact that when I read the book I bought you, that I did the written exercises in the back of the book that are intended to improve your thinking.. and the result, day after day of scoring the same test, was that my thinking was getting worse, not better. It was very frustrating.. but there was value in quantifying my negative thinking and knowing that it was getting worse because I knew that something was causing it (and my ASD symptoms) to get worse, and that if it could get worse, it could better.. I just had to figure out what it was & then how to influence change upon it in the opposite direction. It was chemical; not the result of a "bad attitude," and once I was able to balance the chemicals involved by replenishing minerals that my body was deficient in, everything began to change. It wasn't a matter of "installing new software," via reading & writing words, trying to force myself to think more positively.. it was more like "re-flashing the firmware," so that now my default operating mode is one of optimism, opportunities, and possibilities. Change yourself, change your perceptions. Change your perceptions, change your reality.


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No. I have a very long reading list of titles that interest me that I haven't gotten to yet, plus even from the titles in these links they sound like mind pollution justification for being negative instead of positive.. and being negative does not get me the results I want out of life, so I'm certainly not going to spend time & energy on anything intended to bring me down. I lived ~30 years of depression & negativity before figuring out what I was missing that others had and how to give that gift to myself and there's a zero % chance that I'm going to do anything to revert that back to the living hell that is depression & negativity. The only direction I'm headed is forward or up, that's it. Why would I be interested in reading books who's titles sound like they're intended to justify negative thinking & not striving towards achieving one's goals? :?


The employment situation for autistics is very bad but things are beginning to change.

Adelphi internship program gives students with autism a foot in the door
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Just two days after starting her firm in July 2016, Felicia Fleitman attended a networking luncheon that would change the course of her business.

At the luncheon, Fleitman, founder of Westbury-based Savvy Hires, a workforce development firm specializing in creating internship and apprenticeship programs, listened to a speaker from Specialized Autism Support & Information talk about the struggles individuals on the autism spectrum face in finding employment.

“I had never thought about this population before,” says Fleitman. “Her passion inspired me.”

She started volunteering for the group. Soon after, Adelphi University contacted SASI for help in finding internship opportunities for its students with autism. SASI in turn called Fleitman.

That connection led her to a role as a paid consultant to the university's Bridges to Adelphi program, which offers academic, social and vocational services to students on the autism spectrum and those with other non-verbal learning disorders. It also resulted in the creation of a pilot internship program last summer that started with just two employers and is expanding to close to a dozen this summer.

“Last year, we had seven interns,” says Fleitman, noting they hope to at least double that when the program starts in mid-June.

Expanding employer participation is critical for members of this population, who often find themselves unemployed or underemployed.

“This is very much an untapped labor pool,” says Marcia Scheiner, president of Manhattan-based Integrate Autism Employment Advisors, an organization that works with employers to help identify, recruit and retain professionals on the autism spectrum.

The unemployment rate among college graduates with autism is 85 percent, she says.

“Our traditional vocational system has typically focused on placing people on the autism spectrum in lower-skilled work,” says Scheiner. Yet, about a third of the autism population is achieving higher education levels and looking for competitive employment at their skill level, she says.

There are some real benefits to hiring this population, including their accuracy, attention to detail and ability to hyper-focus, she says. More employers are becoming aware of their value as evidenced by major companies like Microsoft devoting dedicated hiring programs to this population.

Following last year’s pilot program, New Hyde Park-based Northwell Health hired two Bridges interns for full-time jobs in information technology and research, says Lauren Pearson, Northwell's manager of workforce readiness.

Northwell representatives were at Adelphi last month to interview intern applicants for this summer. Peason says the interviews are conducted at the school rather than in a Northwell office "to make it a more comfortable environment” for the students.

One interviewee, Richard Spiegel, 20, a senior studying computer science, said he appreciated Northwell coming onto campus.

“It definitely alleviates the stress,” he says. Last year he interned at Enterprise Holdings through the pilot program.

Spiegel says the Bridges program has helped prepare him for what to expect from an interview and also for participating in an internship.

“Bridges provides a much easier opening for you to come in and find opportunities for internships and jobs,” he says.

That’s the intent, says Bridges director Mitch Nagler, who hired Fleitman in 2016 to provide students with opportunities to connect with potential employers.

"If we don’t provide our students with support as they get close to graduation, it’s going to be difficult for them to gain employment in the areas they studied where they get paid competitive wages so they could live independent lives,” Nagle says.

Fleitman says these students are just as capable as “neuro-typical” students, but just need support.

She and the Bridges program also offer support to companies. For example, they went to Northwell to conduct "autism in the workplace" training for managers. Northwell also created a video inviting interested Bridges students to its campus and then arranged a trip to Lake Success before the interviews.

This helps, considering the interview process alone can be daunting for these individuals, Fleitman says.

Scheiner agrees. Her firm, Integrate, coaches companies on behaviors that might make them discard a candidate, such as not making eye contact or taking a few extra seconds to process a question before answering.

Still, employers don’t have to drastically change the way they operate.

“It’s 90 percent about clear communication,” says Scheiner, recalling an instance when a manager asked a young man on the autism spectrum "‘Would you like to work on this project?" and he answered "No." When she asked the young man why he said that, he said it was because he was already working on something else. Rather, the manager could have tweaked his direction by saying, "We need you to work on this project."

“It’s the little things,” Scheiner says.

Fleitman says companies are becoming more open to giving internship opportunities to students on the spectrum. She’s expanded her reach to more employers this year. Northwell and Queens-based Enterprise are participating for a second year. Medcore Health Group of Garden City and Spark Foundry, a Manhattan media agency that is part of Publicis Media, are among the new companies that have signed on.

Enterprise hired a management intern from last summer’s program to stay on part time during the school year, talent acquistion manager Natasha Johnson says.

“Participating in the Bridges to Adelphi program is a perfect fit with our company culture and values,” she says.

Fleitman says the internship program has exceeded her expectations, adding that this niche now constitutes 70 percent of her business.

She’s also working with other schools in similar capacities, including Suffolk County Community College.

“This has really shaped my business model in a way I didn’t expect,” Fleitman says. “My overall goal is to really impact the employment landscape in a positive way.”


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29 May 2018, 5:24 pm

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The USA is a diverse country of more than 300 Million people, which include employers that are disability friendly.


BS!


I've read about some, seen their posts & promo videos on Facebook. Here, in less than 1 second google returns 170,000 results for the search term (not in quotes) "disability friendly employer USA."

https://www.google.ca/search?q=disabili ... e&ie=UTF-8

So, they exist. So much so that the first hit is a directory for them. Also, there are American members of this forum who have gotten their jobs through organizations that help disabled people get jobs. They may not be every employer (duh), but, they exist. Like I said, in a diverse country of more than 300 Million people, there are disability friendly employers. Some more friendly to specific disabilities, like accommodations for wheelchairs, or deaf people, and some, even specifically, for Autism. While the company is headed in Germany, I saw an ad last year from SAP (ERP software company - the best in the world) specifically seeking people on the spectrum because they Know that they are best suited for the type of coding & debugging work they need done.


cubedemon6073 wrote:
Your message is to tell me that it is my attitude (as though attitude controls time and space) that is the cause of my issues when I explain my reality to you therefore denying my reality. I'm expected to accept a cultish belief system (which has some truth to it) w/o question that you and others in our nation promote which logic, reason and common sense can easily disprove and then you try to promote on here questionable methods and tactics in a long list without being a doctor or medical professional.


But it is your attitude that differs from those who are gainfully employed, so, who's is "wrong?" If the "norm," of a belief system is so illogical & unreasonable, why does it work for countless other people who are out working their jobs and living their lives?

I don't believe your attitude & perceptions are by choice. They simply Are. I believe this because 6 years ago I used to think like you, and guess what results I got? The ones you're getting. I didn't change the way I think by reading books about positivity (although, I did read them.), I changed the way I think by healing myself. By learning what foods and things I was putting in my body were causing the chemical shitstorm necessary to make my thinking that way, and how to heal my digestive system in order to improve all of that so that I can now tolerate eating those foods without negatively impacting my headspace with an accumulation of food acids that trips out the brain, executive functions, and causes horrible negative thoughts/perceptions as well as passively suicidal thoughts. It's science, not make believe woo-woo wishy washy just believe in myself BS. It's biology & chemistry.

I have never once claimed to be a medical professional. I've been very transparent about the fact that I am an Autistic man who figured out what was causing my ASD symptoms to go WILD and how to treat them via diet and medicine in order to raise my functioning level to where it's at now so that I can work, live, and play in the social world as I do, and then I shared that with the community here - the people it can help most. That's it that's all.

You like facts, empirical evidence, statistics, hard science vs. my experiential word, and now they exist because medical research is catching up to what I learned over 5 years ago and the proof is now well documented to back up the anecdotal claims I've made. cube, read this, it'll take an hour or so, but read it All, and then come back and tell me how crazy you think I am for telling y'all that healing & balancing my gut has resulted in night & day dramatic improvement in my ASD functioning levels: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5408485/ It's all there, cube, written by 4 medical doctors from around the world who drew their data & information from 157 separate ASD & other medical studies in order to compile it into what's there. One brief article Deepthought 7 shared here stated that the lead doctor on the study, Dr. Li (MD of Paediatrics at Peking University First Hospital in Beijing) concluded that he believes it may be possible to develop a simple & cost effective treatment for ASD based on this research. It's impossible to find contact information for him w/o being a University researcher, but I did find contact info for one of the other doctors who's in California and emailed her - because I've already been doing for 5 years what they hypothesized 1 year ago might be possible to do in the future. You can continue to think I'm crazy all you want, that's your choice, but this is legitimately an emerging area of medicine and I am at the forefront of it. Click and read the study, it'll explain in far better medical detail what I don't have the specialized knowledge to explain.


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I have ignored your condescending tone for the longest so I could keep an open mind to other possibilities including what you say. I will read your book you sent me and I will read your stuff but you refuse to see or accept a different way of thinking and others don't think like you. I said the marijuana insults b/c I was frustrated with you. Ya, maybe I should not have said it but come on dude. I'm willing to open my mind to differing possibilities even a possibility I could be wrong. I accept it as true that perception is reality once you explained it further. I can see why ASS-P and Ezra don't like you. My advice: Get a professional to test your theory of mind.


Your perception is that I'm condescending, mine isn't. You at least try to keep an open mind, until you get frustrated and lash out with insults instead of any sort of argument - but - at least you Try. I've told you before, and I just told you again, I used to think a different way than I do now. I used to think like you, or sly279, or Marknis, but then I learned what was causing my thoughts to be that way and how to treat it via diet & medicine, and now I think how I do. This is not the result of "installing a new operating system," & "overwriting code," via reading words in a book. I also have been abundantly transparent about the fact that when I read the book I bought you, that I did the written exercises in the back of the book that are intended to improve your thinking.. and the result, day after day of scoring the same test, was that my thinking was getting worse, not better. It was very frustrating.. but there was value in quantifying my negative thinking and knowing that it was getting worse because I knew that something was causing it (and my ASD symptoms) to get worse, and that if it could get worse, it could better.. I just had to figure out what it was & then how to influence change upon it in the opposite direction. It was chemical; not the result of a "bad attitude," and once I was able to balance the chemicals involved by replenishing minerals that my body was deficient in, everything began to change. It wasn't a matter of "installing new software," via reading & writing words, trying to force myself to think more positively.. it was more like "re-flashing the firmware," so that now my default operating mode is one of optimism, opportunities, and possibilities. Change yourself, change your perceptions. Change your perceptions, change your reality.


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No. I have a very long reading list of titles that interest me that I haven't gotten to yet, plus even from the titles in these links they sound like mind pollution justification for being negative instead of positive.. and being negative does not get me the results I want out of life, so I'm certainly not going to spend time & energy on anything intended to bring me down. I lived ~30 years of depression & negativity before figuring out what I was missing that others had and how to give that gift to myself and there's a zero % chance that I'm going to do anything to revert that back to the living hell that is depression & negativity. The only direction I'm headed is forward or up, that's it. Why would I be interested in reading books who's titles sound like they're intended to justify negative thinking & not striving towards achieving one's goals? :?


The employment situation for autistics is very bad but things are beginning to change.

Adelphi internship program gives students with autism a foot in the door
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Just two days after starting her firm in July 2016, Felicia Fleitman attended a networking luncheon that would change the course of her business.

At the luncheon, Fleitman, founder of Westbury-based Savvy Hires, a workforce development firm specializing in creating internship and apprenticeship programs, listened to a speaker from Specialized Autism Support & Information talk about the struggles individuals on the autism spectrum face in finding employment.

“I had never thought about this population before,” says Fleitman. “Her passion inspired me.”

She started volunteering for the group. Soon after, Adelphi University contacted SASI for help in finding internship opportunities for its students with autism. SASI in turn called Fleitman.

That connection led her to a role as a paid consultant to the university's Bridges to Adelphi program, which offers academic, social and vocational services to students on the autism spectrum and those with other non-verbal learning disorders. It also resulted in the creation of a pilot internship program last summer that started with just two employers and is expanding to close to a dozen this summer.

“Last year, we had seven interns,” says Fleitman, noting they hope to at least double that when the program starts in mid-June.

Expanding employer participation is critical for members of this population, who often find themselves unemployed or underemployed.

“This is very much an untapped labor pool,” says Marcia Scheiner, president of Manhattan-based Integrate Autism Employment Advisors, an organization that works with employers to help identify, recruit and retain professionals on the autism spectrum.

The unemployment rate among college graduates with autism is 85 percent, she says.

“Our traditional vocational system has typically focused on placing people on the autism spectrum in lower-skilled work,” says Scheiner. Yet, about a third of the autism population is achieving higher education levels and looking for competitive employment at their skill level, she says.

There are some real benefits to hiring this population, including their accuracy, attention to detail and ability to hyper-focus, she says. More employers are becoming aware of their value as evidenced by major companies like Microsoft devoting dedicated hiring programs to this population.

Following last year’s pilot program, New Hyde Park-based Northwell Health hired two Bridges interns for full-time jobs in information technology and research, says Lauren Pearson, Northwell's manager of workforce readiness.

Northwell representatives were at Adelphi last month to interview intern applicants for this summer. Peason says the interviews are conducted at the school rather than in a Northwell office "to make it a more comfortable environment” for the students.

One interviewee, Richard Spiegel, 20, a senior studying computer science, said he appreciated Northwell coming onto campus.

“It definitely alleviates the stress,” he says. Last year he interned at Enterprise Holdings through the pilot program.

Spiegel says the Bridges program has helped prepare him for what to expect from an interview and also for participating in an internship.

“Bridges provides a much easier opening for you to come in and find opportunities for internships and jobs,” he says.

That’s the intent, says Bridges director Mitch Nagler, who hired Fleitman in 2016 to provide students with opportunities to connect with potential employers.

"If we don’t provide our students with support as they get close to graduation, it’s going to be difficult for them to gain employment in the areas they studied where they get paid competitive wages so they could live independent lives,” Nagle says.

Fleitman says these students are just as capable as “neuro-typical” students, but just need support.

She and the Bridges program also offer support to companies. For example, they went to Northwell to conduct "autism in the workplace" training for managers. Northwell also created a video inviting interested Bridges students to its campus and then arranged a trip to Lake Success before the interviews.

This helps, considering the interview process alone can be daunting for these individuals, Fleitman says.

Scheiner agrees. Her firm, Integrate, coaches companies on behaviors that might make them discard a candidate, such as not making eye contact or taking a few extra seconds to process a question before answering.

Still, employers don’t have to drastically change the way they operate.

“It’s 90 percent about clear communication,” says Scheiner, recalling an instance when a manager asked a young man on the autism spectrum "‘Would you like to work on this project?" and he answered "No." When she asked the young man why he said that, he said it was because he was already working on something else. Rather, the manager could have tweaked his direction by saying, "We need you to work on this project."

“It’s the little things,” Scheiner says.

Fleitman says companies are becoming more open to giving internship opportunities to students on the spectrum. She’s expanded her reach to more employers this year. Northwell and Queens-based Enterprise are participating for a second year. Medcore Health Group of Garden City and Spark Foundry, a Manhattan media agency that is part of Publicis Media, are among the new companies that have signed on.

Enterprise hired a management intern from last summer’s program to stay on part time during the school year, talent acquistion manager Natasha Johnson says.

“Participating in the Bridges to Adelphi program is a perfect fit with our company culture and values,” she says.

Fleitman says the internship program has exceeded her expectations, adding that this niche now constitutes 70 percent of her business.

She’s also working with other schools in similar capacities, including Suffolk County Community College.

“This has really shaped my business model in a way I didn’t expect,” Fleitman says. “My overall goal is to really impact the employment landscape in a positive way.”


Alright, let me take a gander but what if I'm not a student anymore.



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You're not concerned that I have some rare condition that you have. You just like to argue with me because you think I'm lying.

I'm Autistic, not stupid. I graduated from business school when I was 19 years old. You like credentials? I have a piece of paper in a folder in my closet that says I know how to learn & know things.

When Raleigh posts his criticisms of me for not behaving like at self help guru (which I have never claimed to be) his word is gospel, but when he says I'm "Autistic af," you ignore his assessment because it doesn't fit your paradigm & desire to argue with me about what I do and do not know about my own health, life, and body.

Layperson or not, I am fully capable of reading, learning, knowing, and doing & I know perfectly well that my ASD functioning level is dramatically improved because of what I've done. Go read the medical study I posted for cube. You can do whatever you want about your diagnosis/es, I'm not forcing you or anyone to treat your symptoms in the way that I treat mine. I'm simply telling you all that This is It, this is the root cause of MANY peoples' ASD symptoms, and how it can be treated via diet and medicine - these organs, this medicine, these results. Do with it what you wish, or don't wish, it's not going to change what I do for myself nor the life changing positive results I've achieved for myself.


No I agree with Raleigh and others that you seem to have significant behavior and perception issues. But no one knows for sure what is causing these perceived issues. However the thing with these issues that several have perceived, is that they would preclude your ability to properly access yourself. And for all anyone knows your home-made treatments might be the cause of those perceived behavior issues or made them worse. Whatever the case, whatever you're doing it certainly doesn't seem to be helping you in those areas.



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And a medical note: 6 years ago I couldn't use my fingers for f**k all without taking Dexedrine (Dexroamphetamine) - I haven't taken that s**t for years & I do finishing work with trowels & putty knives. Even my balance and coordination have dramatically improved. Gone are the days of dyspraxia symptoms limiting my abilities - like when I was 15 years old and was so rigid when I ran that they called me Forest Gump ffs. Diet, gut healing, intestinal cleanses & probiotics = dramatic improvement in all comorbids.


Were you diagnosed with dysparxia and prescribed Dexedrine for it? Dyspraxia and autism have many things in common.



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No one is going to hold your hand through every step of seeking, applying for, obtaining, and keeping a job.


Here's the thing. Whenever I asked others questions about the steps a number of ppl will say it is common sense. If it is common sense then shouldn't they be able to explain and scaffold it to me with little cost, time and effort? Doesn't common sense mean sound judgement that applies across the whole board or group that is so obvious that it requires little thought? You're saying it would cost to much in money, energy, and time. How? If it is common sense how would it cost a lot to scaffold these things to me?


It's common sense to Most people and Most people don't need to be taught things that they intuitively know how to do. Because of this, they can't teach them to other people. They weren't taught to them, they're simply things that don't require explanation, and so for someone to try to figure out how to teach them to others is damned near impossible so they just roll their eyes and carry on. There's a million little things to "common sense," that cannot be taught. In my experience, though, when you "turn on the social circuitry," of the enteric nervous system via diet, cleanses, and probiotics, your brain & body function much more NT and these things become intuitive knowledge & actions for yourself. I've caught myself noticing countless things like this that would have otherwise simply just gone right over my head in more "ASD mode."


This is very fascinating. I've always made a certain assumption and I have to question that assumption. The assumption I've made is that the simpler a concept is to someone the easier it would be to explain. In addition to being complex for someone to explain what if something could be to simple for it to be explained as well because it is so intuitive to that person. They wouldn't even have the words or the conceptualization to even explain it. Again, this is very fascinating and you showed me a different concept I never would have considered. That is pretty cool. It got me thinking of the Asgard on Stargate. They could not even conceive of using projectile weapons like guns or bow and arrows because it would be to simplistic for them to conceive of. But, all of the tech the Asgard had and the concepts behind it was so simple to them that they could not really explain it to someone like us.



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No one is going to hold your hand through every step of seeking, applying for, obtaining, and keeping a job.


Here's the thing. Whenever I asked others questions about the steps a number of ppl will say it is common sense. If it is common sense then shouldn't they be able to explain and scaffold it to me with little cost, time and effort? Doesn't common sense mean sound judgement that applies across the whole board or group that is so obvious that it requires little thought? You're saying it would cost to much in money, energy, and time. How? If it is common sense how would it cost a lot to scaffold these things to me?


It's common sense to Most people and Most people don't need to be taught things that they intuitively know how to do. Because of this, they can't teach them to other people. They weren't taught to them, they're simply things that don't require explanation, and so for someone to try to figure out how to teach them to others is damned near impossible so they just roll their eyes and carry on. There's a million little things to "common sense," that cannot be taught. In my experience, though, when you "turn on the social circuitry," of the enteric nervous system via diet, cleanses, and probiotics, your brain & body function much more NT and these things become intuitive knowledge & actions for yourself. I've caught myself noticing countless things like this that would have otherwise simply just gone right over my head in more "ASD mode."


This is very fascinating. I've always made a certain assumption and I have to question that assumption. The assumption I've made is that the simpler a concept is to someone the easier it would be to explain. In addition to being complex for someone to explain what if something could be to simple for it to be explained as well because it is so intuitive to that person. They wouldn't even have the words or the conceptualization to even explain it. Again, this is very fascinating and you showed me a different concept I never would have considered. That is pretty cool. It got me thinking of the Asgard on Stargate. They could not even conceive of using projectile weapons like guns or bow and arrows because it would be to simplistic for them to conceive of. But, all of the tech the Asgard had and the concepts behind it was so simple to them that they could not really explain it to someone like us.


The old mind 'set' and environmental-culturing 'setting' thing ~ along with Type-1s experientially understanding and having comprehensive awareness of physical things more, T-2s more physical and mental things, T-3s more physical, mental and psychical things, and T-4 more physical, mental, psychical and conscious things. T-1s are the most numerous ~ T-4 the least numerous.


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The USA is a diverse country of more than 300 Million people, which include employers that are disability friendly.


BS!


I've read about some, seen their posts & promo videos on Facebook. Here, in less than 1 second google returns 170,000 results for the search term (not in quotes) "disability friendly employer USA."

https://www.google.ca/search?q=disabili ... e&ie=UTF-8

So, they exist. So much so that the first hit is a directory for them. Also, there are American members of this forum who have gotten their jobs through organizations that help disabled people get jobs. They may not be every employer (duh), but, they exist. Like I said, in a diverse country of more than 300 Million people, there are disability friendly employers. Some more friendly to specific disabilities, like accommodations for wheelchairs, or deaf people, and some, even specifically, for Autism. While the company is headed in Germany, I saw an ad last year from SAP (ERP software company - the best in the world) specifically seeking people on the spectrum because they Know that they are best suited for the type of coding & debugging work they need done.


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Your message is to tell me that it is my attitude (as though attitude controls time and space) that is the cause of my issues when I explain my reality to you therefore denying my reality. I'm expected to accept a cultish belief system (which has some truth to it) w/o question that you and others in our nation promote which logic, reason and common sense can easily disprove and then you try to promote on here questionable methods and tactics in a long list without being a doctor or medical professional.


But it is your attitude that differs from those who are gainfully employed, so, who's is "wrong?" If the "norm," of a belief system is so illogical & unreasonable, why does it work for countless other people who are out working their jobs and living their lives?

I don't believe your attitude & perceptions are by choice. They simply Are. I believe this because 6 years ago I used to think like you, and guess what results I got? The ones you're getting. I didn't change the way I think by reading books about positivity (although, I did read them.), I changed the way I think by healing myself. By learning what foods and things I was putting in my body were causing the chemical shitstorm necessary to make my thinking that way, and how to heal my digestive system in order to improve all of that so that I can now tolerate eating those foods without negatively impacting my headspace with an accumulation of food acids that trips out the brain, executive functions, and causes horrible negative thoughts/perceptions as well as passively suicidal thoughts. It's science, not make believe woo-woo wishy washy just believe in myself BS. It's biology & chemistry.

I have never once claimed to be a medical professional. I've been very transparent about the fact that I am an Autistic man who figured out what was causing my ASD symptoms to go WILD and how to treat them via diet and medicine in order to raise my functioning level to where it's at now so that I can work, live, and play in the social world as I do, and then I shared that with the community here - the people it can help most. That's it that's all.

You like facts, empirical evidence, statistics, hard science vs. my experiential word, and now they exist because medical research is catching up to what I learned over 5 years ago and the proof is now well documented to back up the anecdotal claims I've made. cube, read this, it'll take an hour or so, but read it All, and then come back and tell me how crazy you think I am for telling y'all that healing & balancing my gut has resulted in night & day dramatic improvement in my ASD functioning levels: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5408485/ It's all there, cube, written by 4 medical doctors from around the world who drew their data & information from 157 separate ASD & other medical studies in order to compile it into what's there. One brief article Deepthought 7 shared here stated that the lead doctor on the study, Dr. Li (MD of Paediatrics at Peking University First Hospital in Beijing) concluded that he believes it may be possible to develop a simple & cost effective treatment for ASD based on this research. It's impossible to find contact information for him w/o being a University researcher, but I did find contact info for one of the other doctors who's in California and emailed her - because I've already been doing for 5 years what they hypothesized 1 year ago might be possible to do in the future. You can continue to think I'm crazy all you want, that's your choice, but this is legitimately an emerging area of medicine and I am at the forefront of it. Click and read the study, it'll explain in far better medical detail what I don't have the specialized knowledge to explain.


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I have ignored your condescending tone for the longest so I could keep an open mind to other possibilities including what you say. I will read your book you sent me and I will read your stuff but you refuse to see or accept a different way of thinking and others don't think like you. I said the marijuana insults b/c I was frustrated with you. Ya, maybe I should not have said it but come on dude. I'm willing to open my mind to differing possibilities even a possibility I could be wrong. I accept it as true that perception is reality once you explained it further. I can see why ASS-P and Ezra don't like you. My advice: Get a professional to test your theory of mind.


Your perception is that I'm condescending, mine isn't. You at least try to keep an open mind, until you get frustrated and lash out with insults instead of any sort of argument - but - at least you Try. I've told you before, and I just told you again, I used to think a different way than I do now. I used to think like you, or sly279, or Marknis, but then I learned what was causing my thoughts to be that way and how to treat it via diet & medicine, and now I think how I do. This is not the result of "installing a new operating system," & "overwriting code," via reading words in a book. I also have been abundantly transparent about the fact that when I read the book I bought you, that I did the written exercises in the back of the book that are intended to improve your thinking.. and the result, day after day of scoring the same test, was that my thinking was getting worse, not better. It was very frustrating.. but there was value in quantifying my negative thinking and knowing that it was getting worse because I knew that something was causing it (and my ASD symptoms) to get worse, and that if it could get worse, it could better.. I just had to figure out what it was & then how to influence change upon it in the opposite direction. It was chemical; not the result of a "bad attitude," and once I was able to balance the chemicals involved by replenishing minerals that my body was deficient in, everything began to change. It wasn't a matter of "installing new software," via reading & writing words, trying to force myself to think more positively.. it was more like "re-flashing the firmware," so that now my default operating mode is one of optimism, opportunities, and possibilities. Change yourself, change your perceptions. Change your perceptions, change your reality.


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No. I have a very long reading list of titles that interest me that I haven't gotten to yet, plus even from the titles in these links they sound like mind pollution justification for being negative instead of positive.. and being negative does not get me the results I want out of life, so I'm certainly not going to spend time & energy on anything intended to bring me down. I lived ~30 years of depression & negativity before figuring out what I was missing that others had and how to give that gift to myself and there's a zero % chance that I'm going to do anything to revert that back to the living hell that is depression & negativity. The only direction I'm headed is forward or up, that's it. Why would I be interested in reading books who's titles sound like they're intended to justify negative thinking & not striving towards achieving one's goals? :?


The employment situation for autistics is very bad but things are beginning to change.

Adelphi internship program gives students with autism a foot in the door
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Just two days after starting her firm in July 2016, Felicia Fleitman attended a networking luncheon that would change the course of her business.

At the luncheon, Fleitman, founder of Westbury-based Savvy Hires, a workforce development firm specializing in creating internship and apprenticeship programs, listened to a speaker from Specialized Autism Support & Information talk about the struggles individuals on the autism spectrum face in finding employment.

“I had never thought about this population before,” says Fleitman. “Her passion inspired me.”

She started volunteering for the group. Soon after, Adelphi University contacted SASI for help in finding internship opportunities for its students with autism. SASI in turn called Fleitman.

That connection led her to a role as a paid consultant to the university's Bridges to Adelphi program, which offers academic, social and vocational services to students on the autism spectrum and those with other non-verbal learning disorders. It also resulted in the creation of a pilot internship program last summer that started with just two employers and is expanding to close to a dozen this summer.

“Last year, we had seven interns,” says Fleitman, noting they hope to at least double that when the program starts in mid-June.

Expanding employer participation is critical for members of this population, who often find themselves unemployed or underemployed.

“This is very much an untapped labor pool,” says Marcia Scheiner, president of Manhattan-based Integrate Autism Employment Advisors, an organization that works with employers to help identify, recruit and retain professionals on the autism spectrum.

The unemployment rate among college graduates with autism is 85 percent, she says.

“Our traditional vocational system has typically focused on placing people on the autism spectrum in lower-skilled work,” says Scheiner. Yet, about a third of the autism population is achieving higher education levels and looking for competitive employment at their skill level, she says.

There are some real benefits to hiring this population, including their accuracy, attention to detail and ability to hyper-focus, she says. More employers are becoming aware of their value as evidenced by major companies like Microsoft devoting dedicated hiring programs to this population.

Following last year’s pilot program, New Hyde Park-based Northwell Health hired two Bridges interns for full-time jobs in information technology and research, says Lauren Pearson, Northwell's manager of workforce readiness.

Northwell representatives were at Adelphi last month to interview intern applicants for this summer. Peason says the interviews are conducted at the school rather than in a Northwell office "to make it a more comfortable environment” for the students.

One interviewee, Richard Spiegel, 20, a senior studying computer science, said he appreciated Northwell coming onto campus.

“It definitely alleviates the stress,” he says. Last year he interned at Enterprise Holdings through the pilot program.

Spiegel says the Bridges program has helped prepare him for what to expect from an interview and also for participating in an internship.

“Bridges provides a much easier opening for you to come in and find opportunities for internships and jobs,” he says.

That’s the intent, says Bridges director Mitch Nagler, who hired Fleitman in 2016 to provide students with opportunities to connect with potential employers.

"If we don’t provide our students with support as they get close to graduation, it’s going to be difficult for them to gain employment in the areas they studied where they get paid competitive wages so they could live independent lives,” Nagle says.

Fleitman says these students are just as capable as “neuro-typical” students, but just need support.

She and the Bridges program also offer support to companies. For example, they went to Northwell to conduct "autism in the workplace" training for managers. Northwell also created a video inviting interested Bridges students to its campus and then arranged a trip to Lake Success before the interviews.

This helps, considering the interview process alone can be daunting for these individuals, Fleitman says.

Scheiner agrees. Her firm, Integrate, coaches companies on behaviors that might make them discard a candidate, such as not making eye contact or taking a few extra seconds to process a question before answering.

Still, employers don’t have to drastically change the way they operate.

“It’s 90 percent about clear communication,” says Scheiner, recalling an instance when a manager asked a young man on the autism spectrum "‘Would you like to work on this project?" and he answered "No." When she asked the young man why he said that, he said it was because he was already working on something else. Rather, the manager could have tweaked his direction by saying, "We need you to work on this project."

“It’s the little things,” Scheiner says.

Fleitman says companies are becoming more open to giving internship opportunities to students on the spectrum. She’s expanded her reach to more employers this year. Northwell and Queens-based Enterprise are participating for a second year. Medcore Health Group of Garden City and Spark Foundry, a Manhattan media agency that is part of Publicis Media, are among the new companies that have signed on.

Enterprise hired a management intern from last summer’s program to stay on part time during the school year, talent acquistion manager Natasha Johnson says.

“Participating in the Bridges to Adelphi program is a perfect fit with our company culture and values,” she says.

Fleitman says the internship program has exceeded her expectations, adding that this niche now constitutes 70 percent of her business.

She’s also working with other schools in similar capacities, including Suffolk County Community College.

“This has really shaped my business model in a way I didn’t expect,” Fleitman says. “My overall goal is to really impact the employment landscape in a positive way.”


Alright, let me take a gander but what if I'm not a student anymore.


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30 May 2018, 2:30 am

goldfish21 wrote:
EzraS wrote:
A person can do whatever they want with themselves as far as I'm concerned. But when that person wants to get others involved then it's not just limited to them any longer. Like wanting someone to travel long distance across an international border to visit them for a demonstration, consultation, whatever.

"I've done this and you need to do it too" "you need to come visit me" etc. If you started posting stuff like that kraftie, about whatever, I'd think the butter slipped off your noodle.

As a sidenote when I think about homeopathic self treatment I think about how Steve Jobs went that route when he probably could have been saved if he had left his treatment up to qualified experts. He finally realized what a huge mistake he made after it was too late and he was plenty intelligent.


That's right, I can do, and do do, whatever I want with myself. Same same for everyone else here.

If you were me and improved your ASD functioning level as much as I have, you'd share it with everyone afflicted by the same condition, too. And then you'd put up with the horrendous negativity & insults from people because you know your message is true despite their disbelief & that it can help people.

Why are you misquoting me? :? I've never once written any of those words. I've said I've done this, and you Can, too. I never ever said you need to come visit me. You don't believe me, so, I invited you to my home & offered to cook dinner so that you can sit live in front of me and hear my voice, see my mannerisms, and know that I am speaking the God's honest truth.

What I do is not considered Homeopathic. It's definitely much more along the lines of Naturopathic. There's a big difference between the two types of medicine & thinking.


It's how I perceived what you have said. As the saying goes, perception is everything. There's a reason why terms like guru, cult leader, cultish, creepy, scary, dodgy etc have been used by others. A person can say those people are completely wrong, but the perception they have exists nonetheless and there is a reason behind it, no matter how much the person in question denys it and writes it off.

I realize now I was using the term homopathic incorrectly. I thought at the time it basically meant a layperson utilizing alternative home-made concoctions to treat a condition. I'll have to find out what the correct term is for that.

It's interesting that you can't seem to come off as well ordered (or whatever you're saying) online as someone is supposed to be able to observe in real life. I am not calling you this or saying that you are saying this, but it's like someone saying, I know I come off as a kooky crackpot online, but if you observe me in person I wouldn't seem that way to you.