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03 Jun 2018, 9:54 pm

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You certainly are special and unique.


Aw, thanks Raleigh!

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You're very welcome, gf.


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03 Jun 2018, 9:55 pm

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Except that you just said there was nothing special or unique about me.. so that should mean that you can easily back this up by sharing with us all who else is doing what I do and achieving what I am. Unless, of course, you're not being truthful and there is in fact something special and unique about me. Feel free to post about all these other people on the spectrum doing what I do and how it's improved their lives; I do want to know who they are so that we can have a chat & compare notes. :)


There's umpteen people who have success stories regarding their unique autism treatments and cures, therefore there's basically nothing unique or special about you or yours because it's just one of many as in take a number.


I didn't even ask for umpteen examples. I asked for even just One. Since you refuse to provide it, I can only assume that you don't have an example to share. Which is unfortunate - as I genuinely am interested in communicating with these people on the spectrum that you claim to know are doing & achieving the same things I am. Shame you're so secretive, really.


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03 Jun 2018, 9:55 pm

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You certainly are special and unique.


Aw, thanks Raleigh!

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You're very welcome, gf.


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03 Jun 2018, 9:59 pm

You could try googling "Autism treatment testimonials"


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03 Jun 2018, 10:03 pm

goldfish21 wrote:
I didn't even ask for umpteen examples. I asked for even just One. Since you refuse to provide it, I can only assume that you don't have an example to share. Which is unfortunate - as I genuinely am interested in communicating with these people on the spectrum that you claim to know are doing & achieving the same things I am. Shame you're so secretive, really.


All you or anyone has to do is look it up like I did. You probably won't find someone exactly like you doing the same exact thing, which apparently according to you disqualifies all the the other success stories. Which is the sort of thing that makes you so amusing.



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03 Jun 2018, 10:06 pm

Raleigh wrote:
You could try googling "Autism treatment testimonials"


That really shouldn't have to be explained :lol:



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03 Jun 2018, 10:08 pm

EzraS wrote:
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I didn't even ask for umpteen examples. I asked for even just One. Since you refuse to provide it, I can only assume that you don't have an example to share. Which is unfortunate - as I genuinely am interested in communicating with these people on the spectrum that you claim to know are doing & achieving the same things I am. Shame you're so secretive, really.


All you or anyone has to do is look it up like I did. You probably won't find someone exactly like you doing the same exact thing, which apparently according to you disqualifies all the the other success stories. Which is the sort of thing that makes you so amusing.


I didn't say that disqualifies all the other success stories. I said there isn't anyone else, afaik, doing exactly as I'm doing & achieving the results I am in the same way.

There are people who've done similar things, including in medical studies, but afaik my story remains unique. If I'm incorrect, I do want to communicate with these people you claim are doing & achieving the same things. Feel free to share any information about them as it will be helpful.


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03 Jun 2018, 10:23 pm

goldfish21 wrote:
I didn't say that disqualifies all the other success stories. I said there isn't anyone else, afaik, doing exactly as I'm doing & achieving the results I am in the same way.

There are people who've done similar things, including in medical studies, but afaik my story remains unique. If I'm incorrect, I do want to communicate with these people you claim are doing & achieving the same things. Feel free to share any information about them as it will be helpful.


Similar in method or not there's upteen stories of very successful autism treatments and cures. You and yours is just one of many. And there are probably many better success stories and many better treatment method stories. Is yours among them or do you just only prattle on in this forum to get attention from us?



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03 Jun 2018, 10:26 pm

EzraS wrote:
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I didn't say that disqualifies all the other success stories. I said there isn't anyone else, afaik, doing exactly as I'm doing & achieving the results I am in the same way.

There are people who've done similar things, including in medical studies, but afaik my story remains unique. If I'm incorrect, I do want to communicate with these people you claim are doing & achieving the same things. Feel free to share any information about them as it will be helpful.


Similar in method or not there's umpteen stories of very successful autism treatments and cures. You and yours is just one of many. And there are probably many better success stories and many better treatment stories. Is yours among them or do you just only prattle on in this forum to get attention from us?


What do you mean by "is mine among them?"

You know damned well why I share what I do on this forum. I was posting all the same complaints as everyone else here for a ~year before I figured out all of this stuff and how to treat my symptoms, and I share because it's life changing information that can help many people like me. Maybe not you, though, simply because you're not open to new information. But it can help many other people.


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03 Jun 2018, 10:37 pm

What worked for Goldfish might not work for Ezra.

It’s probable that Goldfish’s autism has a different etiology than Ezra’s autism.

Ezra’s treatment team took many years to arrive at the formula which made Ezra emerge at least somewhat from his autism. It was a multidisciplinary approach which involved much more than diet, and still does.

It is probable that Goldfish’s autism wasn’t as complex or severe as Ezra’s in general. Ezra started speaking at 8 years old. I would bet that Goldfish started speaking at about one year of age.

Comparing Ezra’s and Goldfish’s autism is close to comparing apples and oranges. And Goldfish’s and the autism of many other people.



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03 Jun 2018, 10:45 pm

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What do you mean by "is mine among them?"

You know damned well why I share what I do on this forum. I was posting all the same complaints as everyone else here for a ~year before I figured out all of this stuff and how to treat my symptoms, and I share because it's life changing information that can help many people like me. Maybe not you, though, simply because you're not open to new information. But it can help many other people.


Right you exclude what you have to say to this obscure forum to get lots of attention from us. In 5 years of this all you have succeeded in are numerous locked threads. In all this time it hasn't gone at all well for you has it. Poor lil fishy.



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03 Jun 2018, 10:46 pm

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What worked for Goldfish might not work for Ezra.

It’s probable that Goldfish’s autism has a different etiology than Ezra’s autism.

Ezra’s treatment team took many years to arrive at the formula which made Ezra emerge at least somewhat from his autism. It was a multidisciplinary approach which involved much more than diet, and still does.

It is probable that Goldfish’s autism wasn’t as complex or severe as Ezra’s in general. Ezra started speaking at 8 years old. I would bet that Goldfish started speaking at about one year of age.

Comparing Ezra’s and Goldfish’s autism is close to comparing apples and oranges. And Goldfish’s and the autism of many other people.


Right-o on all accounts, except that I started speaking before I was a year old.

The cause of my ASD may not be the same as EzraS', but the cause of my ASD is not unique to me & medical studies are now proving it. Healing highly permeable leaky intestines & balancing gut dysbiosis will become a common ASD treatment in time. In the meantime, I'll just carry on doing what I'm doing & remain optimistic about the future and how many others will eventually realize the benefits to their work & social lives that I am.


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04 Jun 2018, 12:21 am

Ezra, Gf may be right you know. If nothing else, I think he believes what he says. Look at it logically. He's not making any money off the stuff he says. So, how is he a con artist? Who knows? Maybe he and others are onto something and that is we need to be more wary about what we put into our bodies and be even more mindful then NTs.



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04 Jun 2018, 12:48 am

I'm only one of many over the years so I know it's not just me and that there is a reason for it. I do believe he feels better now than he used to. But no one knows what all is wrong with him. There are conditions similar to autism and there are also comorbids that exacerbate autistic symptoms. I think most likely he's treating something else wrong with him other than autism which made his symptoms worse. The problem with him as many have pointed out over the years is how he conducts himself here. And for all I know the 5 year long train wreck is just an act to get attention, which he has gotten gobs of in one locked thread after another.



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04 Jun 2018, 1:07 am

kraftiekortie wrote:
What worked for Goldfish might not work for Ezra.

It’s probable that Goldfish’s autism has a different etiology than Ezra’s autism.

Ezra’s treatment team took many years to arrive at the formula which made Ezra emerge at least somewhat from his autism. It was a multidisciplinary approach which involved much more than diet, and still does.

It is probable that Goldfish’s autism wasn’t as complex or severe as Ezra’s in general. Ezra started speaking at 8 years old. I would bet that Goldfish started speaking at about one year of age.

Comparing Ezra’s and Goldfish’s autism is close to comparing apples and oranges. And Goldfish’s and the autism of many other people.


For starters whatever and what all goldfish has, has never been officially established.

Realistically I can only be properly compared to someone who has been thoroughly examined and evaluated by highly experienced experts as to what works and what doesn't.

I think it's probable that goldfish is treating something that was exacerbating his self diagnosed autism symptoms. And if so therefore doesn't actually have a treatment for autism itself. It's all only anyone's guess as to what's actually going on. Outside of the testimonials of a construction worker playing scientist in his kitchen or perhaps parents basement.



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04 Jun 2018, 2:05 am

EzraS wrote:
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What do you mean by "is mine among them?"

You know damned well why I share what I do on this forum. I was posting all the same complaints as everyone else here for a ~year before I figured out all of this stuff and how to treat my symptoms, and I share because it's life changing information that can help many people like me. Maybe not you, though, simply because you're not open to new information. But it can help many other people.


Right you exclude what you have to say to this obscure forum to get lots of attention from us. In 5 years of this all you have succeeded in are numerous locked threads. In all this time it hasn't gone at all well for you has it. Poor lil fishy.


No, I share what I do here amongst people like me suffering from the same condition who I came to know before I figured out how to treat it.

Due to the reaction here to the facts & truth I share has been so overwhelmingly negative (disbelievers? rigid thinkers? only accept info from authority figures with letters after their names? grossed out by gross science? homophobic and can't imagine ever doing any form of intestinal cleanse because of it? etc) and people like you saying that I am a fraud/hoax/snakeoil salesman etc why on God's green Earth would I register a URL or write a book in an attempt to monetize my story? Damned if you, damned if you don't. You just look for any reason to oppose what I tell you about myself. Probably is ODD. Besides that, like I've said for 5 years, I'm not selling anything and not interested in selling anything to people who can least afford to give me their money in exchange for knowledge. I share freely because I want people to know these things so that they can use this knowledge to help themselves at the lowest possible monetary cost to them - by buying healthy foods, herbs, oils & supplements etc from their local grocer/health food store/farmer's market.

Actually, it's going quite well for me. More and more people are coming around to the idea that I've been sharing nothing but the truth of my experience this whole time. They pm me, we chat. People are learning, accepting this stuff is real, and eventually they'll benefit from it, too. Medical research is catching up as well, so now there are entire studies written on this stuff that anyone can read and realize that it's all the whole truth & nothing but.

You're still welcome to come for dinner.*
*but I might accidentally overcook your steak. :D


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