Do you have a sense of gender identity?

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23 Jun 2009, 7:58 pm

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So I guess in the end the only way I believe women belong in a co-ed military is if they refuse to stick to their gender roles, something I wasn't willing to do.


That's very interesting, Tantybi. My cousin is butch, and is also a lesbian. She's tells some interesting stories. For instance, she mentions how some of the women are gay (and try to hide it.)


That's funny. Hope I didn't shower with any of them. Oh hell, I'm eye candy. I just got to get used to it. :wink:



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23 Jun 2009, 8:05 pm

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Only in so far as I have a sense of being half male and half female, with the two basically canceling each other out so i am darn right in the middle.
the other reading is that on occasions I feel distinctly female and on other occasions distinctly male, which could also mean i have insight into both sexes.

of course, strictly speaking, gender refers to masculine/feminine as opposed to male/female.
I would say i experience both the former.


^ That.

I often feel disconnected from my body too - like it's there, and it's useful, and it's a functional tool but it's not *me* persay. *Me* is a personality and thus is pretty much sexless. Some days I feel like I understand and relate to the thought patterns of guys (and girls mystify me) and other days the opposite. It really depends on the thought patterns and the people I'm with.

Physically I am attracted to males, and thus would form deeper feelings and a sexual relationship with a male - but if physically I was attracted to females, it would be the same thing with no discernible difference.

But I know that most people really identify their gender and body as a part of their identity, and it really colours their perspective on life. It's interesting.


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24 Jun 2009, 7:39 am

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I often feel disconnected from my body too - like it's there, and it's useful, and it's a functional tool but it's not *me* persay. *Me* is a personality and thus is pretty much sexless. Some days I feel like I understand and relate to the thought patterns of guys (and girls mystify me) and other days the opposite. It really depends on the thought patterns and the people I'm with.

But I know that most people really identify their gender and body as a part of their identity, and it really colours their perspective on life. It's interesting.


That pretty much echoes my experience... the only time I particularly identify with being female is when someone tells me I can't DO something because of being a woman...

The rest of the time I'm just me, no gender specified.



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24 Jun 2009, 8:22 am

I am wondering if this is more related to personality than ASD. On another forum, one for people whose personality type is INFP, there are threads about this same subject. A good test might be for folks with Aspergers whose personality type is INTJ, to give their opinions on this subject.



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24 Jun 2009, 8:41 am

I am female and I seem to have a bit of both of both genders... I like many things that guys like, and share some things typical of females. Usually, I fare better with guys. Girls want to talk about cosmetics and shopping and stuff... I don't. lol



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24 Jun 2009, 9:38 am

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I am wondering if this is more related to personality than ASD. On another forum, one for people whose personality type is INFP, there are threads about this same subject. A good test might be for folks with Aspergers whose personality type is INTJ, to give their opinions on this subject.


INFP???
INTJ???

What do these initials stand for?



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24 Jun 2009, 10:32 am

DonkeyBuster wrote:
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I am wondering if this is more related to personality than ASD. On another forum, one for people whose personality type is INFP, there are threads about this same subject. A good test might be for folks with Aspergers whose personality type is INTJ, to give their opinions on this subject.


INFP???
INTJ???

What do these initials stand for?

It's a personality inventory system called MBTI. There is an online test at http://www.humanmetrics.com/cgi-win/JTypes2.asp
where you can likely discover yours. If you do a search on "MBTI" on this forum, there are several threads to be found on the subject. I learned this system first, and I use it as a way of categorizing people and as a way of predicting their behavior, if they fit into one of those patterns.

Please forgive me if I've confused you.



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24 Jun 2009, 11:22 am

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Please forgive me if I've confused you.


No, you didn't confuse me. I just don't know everything you know, so I couldn't follow what you were talking about.

Thanks for filling me in. 8)



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24 Jun 2009, 12:12 pm

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Please forgive me if I've confused you.


No, you didn't confuse me. I just don't know everything you know, so I couldn't follow what you were talking about.

Thanks for filling me in. 8)

Oh, I didn't actually answer your question.
The INT stands for Introverted, Intuitive, Thinking, and the last character of the string is always either J or P. J means the person extroverts a judging function and P means the person extroverts a perceiving function.

For INFP, which is my type, I and N have the same meanings, but F is for feeling.

You can go to http://www.cognitiveprocesses.com/ if you wish, where you can learn all about this stuff. You'll just have to remember that in that context NT stands for Intuitive thinker, not Neurotypical. :)



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24 Jun 2009, 4:25 pm

I used the link for the Jung/Myers-Brigs and came up ISTJ: 56, 12, 75, 22. The Inspector Guardian. :lol: Moderately introspective, weakly sensing, highly thinking, weakly judging (I do tend to just jump into things)

So the S is opposed to the N? Then I don't fit your criteria to satisfy your curiosity. Dang. :lol:



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24 Jun 2009, 4:47 pm

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I used the link for the Jung/Myers-Brigs and came up ISTJ: 56, 12, 75, 22. The Inspector Guardian. :lol: Moderately introspective, weakly sensing, highly thinking, weakly judging (I do tend to just jump into things)

So the S is opposed to the N? Then I don't fit your criteria to satisfy your curiosity. Dang. :lol:

Yes, but you got the result that my intuition was guessing for you based on the feel of your words. That, of course, doesn't mean you lack intuition.



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24 Jun 2009, 5:17 pm

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That, of course, doesn't mean you lack intuition.


Oh no, I just tend not to listen to it on a day-to-day basis, though if I have a strong gut feeling about someone or something, I will tend to go with that [danger, danger... a**hole ahead]. But making ordinary decisions based on intuition... if I did that, would I be AS? :lol:

It'd have to be a learned behavior. :roll:



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24 Jun 2009, 7:39 pm

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But making ordinary decisions based on intuition... if I did that, would I be AS? :lol:

It'd have to be a learned behavior. :roll:

Actually I have wondered about that. Is use of intuition, or access to intuition rare among Auties and Aspies?



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24 Jun 2009, 9:04 pm

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But making ordinary decisions based on intuition... if I did that, would I be AS? :lol:

It'd have to be a learned behavior. :roll:

Actually I have wondered about that. Is use of intuition, or access to intuition rare among Auties and Aspies?


Sounds like a thread topic! :D



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30 Jun 2009, 8:10 am

I don't really have a gender identity, i think i am perfectly balanced in bethween the two roles. :roll:



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30 Jun 2009, 4:38 pm

willmark wrote:
I am wondering if this is more related to personality than ASD. On another forum, one for people whose personality type is INFP, there are threads about this same subject. A good test might be for folks with Aspergers whose personality type is INTJ, to give their opinions on this subject.


I am INTJ or eNTJ (sort of a cross between I/e).


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