Are highly intellectual aspies different than other aspies?

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20 May 2018, 8:55 am

I had to look up the definition of aggrandizing.

I believe we are all smart and ignorant - just in different areas.


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20 May 2018, 9:19 am

As goofy as the original post sounded I actually kinda get what he means.

Some aspies I have met (online, and IRL) are like me in that they must have been "little professors" ( Hans Asperger's own term ) when they were eight years old. But others aren't like that. Have no special interests. Just seem like a different kinda animal.

So its not as dumb a question as it sounds.

But its hard to answer because each aspie is different. One aspie is obsessed with Elizabethan Madrigals, the next is obsessed with bus schedules in his town, and the next has no particular interest of that kind. Only the first is an academic type thing that would be called "intellectual".

But it looks like the thread descended from seeming stupidity to ….actual stupidity. And then it keeps dying, and then it keeps coming back to life like a zombie. The OP was seven years ago.



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20 May 2018, 11:34 am

NP

Thanks for pointing the OP.date.
I just noticed a few post down the date was 2015.

I miss the dates for the forest sometimes.

My wife points this out in our long line of kept texts from other people. I miss when a text was sent.


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20 May 2018, 11:40 am

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Do you think intellectual aspies have a different form of asperger's than non-intellectual ones? Is it only giftedness in the intellectuals that makes them different?
I have met both intellectual and non-intellectual aspies and they strike me as having a different form of asperger's. I could be wrong however.


I think the highly intellectual Aspies are more arrogant and Aspie-Elitist (or elitist in general).



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20 May 2018, 12:19 pm

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Do you think intellectual aspies have a different form of asperger's than non-intellectual ones? Is it only giftedness in the intellectuals that makes them different?
I have met both intellectual and non-intellectual aspies and they strike me as having a different form of asperger's. I could be wrong however.

I am very intelligent but I am very immature. I can intellectualize til the cows come home but it is a precocious intellect because it is not accompanied by intellectual maturity. I intellectualize but I have trouble thinking. So even though I am gifted intellectually, and I can have very high levels of analytical conversations, I am not able to get my life together and manage to survive completely independently. I still require a good bit of support. And emotionally I am not capable of processing like an adult at all. My intellectual analytical ability also does not help me with social awareness. Socially, the best I can do is like a six to eight year old.


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20 May 2018, 1:11 pm

skibum wrote:
Alla wrote:
Do you think intellectual aspies have a different form of asperger's than non-intellectual ones? Is it only giftedness in the intellectuals that makes them different?
I have met both intellectual and non-intellectual aspies and they strike me as having a different form of asperger's. I could be wrong however.

I am very intelligent but I am very immature. I can intellectualize til the cows come home but it is a precocious intellect because it is not accompanied by intellectual maturity. I intellectualize but I have trouble thinking. So even though I am gifted intellectually, and I can have very high levels of analytical conversations, I am not able to get my life together and manage to survive completely independently. I still require a good bit of support. And emotionally I am not capable of processing like an adult at all. My intellectual analytical ability also does not help me with social awareness. Socially, the best I can do is like a six to eight year old.


The issue here was intellectual, not intelligent.



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20 May 2018, 2:57 pm

livingwithautism wrote:
skibum wrote:
Alla wrote:
Do you think intellectual aspies have a different form of asperger's than non-intellectual ones? Is it only giftedness in the intellectuals that makes them different?
I have met both intellectual and non-intellectual aspies and they strike me as having a different form of asperger's. I could be wrong however.

I am very intelligent but I am very immature. I can intellectualize til the cows come home but it is a precocious intellect because it is not accompanied by intellectual maturity. I intellectualize but I have trouble thinking. So even though I am gifted intellectually, and I can have very high levels of analytical conversations, I am not able to get my life together and manage to survive completely independently. I still require a good bit of support. And emotionally I am not capable of processing like an adult at all. My intellectual analytical ability also does not help me with social awareness. Socially, the best I can do is like a six to eight year old.


The issue here was intellectual, not intelligent.
I don't understand what that means


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20 May 2018, 3:18 pm

skibum wrote:
livingwithautism wrote:
skibum wrote:
Alla wrote:
Do you think intellectual aspies have a different form of asperger's than non-intellectual ones? Is it only giftedness in the intellectuals that makes them different?
I have met both intellectual and non-intellectual aspies and they strike me as having a different form of asperger's. I could be wrong however.

I am very intelligent but I am very immature. I can intellectualize til the cows come home but it is a precocious intellect because it is not accompanied by intellectual maturity. I intellectualize but I have trouble thinking. So even though I am gifted intellectually, and I can have very high levels of analytical conversations, I am not able to get my life together and manage to survive completely independently. I still require a good bit of support. And emotionally I am not capable of processing like an adult at all. My intellectual analytical ability also does not help me with social awareness. Socially, the best I can do is like a six to eight year old.


The issue here was intellectual, not intelligent.
I don't understand what that means


You don't have to be intellectual to be intelligent, but you do have to be intelligent to be intellectual.



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20 May 2018, 3:32 pm

livingwithautism wrote:
skibum wrote:
livingwithautism wrote:
skibum wrote:
Alla wrote:
Do you think intellectual aspies have a different form of asperger's than non-intellectual ones? Is it only giftedness in the intellectuals that makes them different?
I have met both intellectual and non-intellectual aspies and they strike me as having a different form of asperger's. I could be wrong however.

I am very intelligent but I am very immature. I can intellectualize til the cows come home but it is a precocious intellect because it is not accompanied by intellectual maturity. I intellectualize but I have trouble thinking. So even though I am gifted intellectually, and I can have very high levels of analytical conversations, I am not able to get my life together and manage to survive completely independently. I still require a good bit of support. And emotionally I am not capable of processing like an adult at all. My intellectual analytical ability also does not help me with social awareness. Socially, the best I can do is like a six to eight year old.


The issue here was intellectual, not intelligent.
I don't understand what that means


You don't have to be intellectual to be intelligent, but you do have to be intelligent to be intellectual.
OK. I understand what you just said now but I don't understand why you said when you said, "The issue here is intellectual, not intelligent." I don't understand what you mean when you say that. How is it a response to my post? I don't understand the how it responds to what I said.


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20 May 2018, 3:42 pm

skibum wrote:
livingwithautism wrote:
skibum wrote:
livingwithautism wrote:
skibum wrote:
Alla wrote:
Do you think intellectual aspies have a different form of asperger's than non-intellectual ones? Is it only giftedness in the intellectuals that makes them different?
I have met both intellectual and non-intellectual aspies and they strike me as having a different form of asperger's. I could be wrong however.

I am very intelligent but I am very immature. I can intellectualize til the cows come home but it is a precocious intellect because it is not accompanied by intellectual maturity. I intellectualize but I have trouble thinking. So even though I am gifted intellectually, and I can have very high levels of analytical conversations, I am not able to get my life together and manage to survive completely independently. I still require a good bit of support. And emotionally I am not capable of processing like an adult at all. My intellectual analytical ability also does not help me with social awareness. Socially, the best I can do is like a six to eight year old.


The issue here was intellectual, not intelligent.
I don't understand what that means


You don't have to be intellectual to be intelligent, but you do have to be intelligent to be intellectual.
OK. I understand what you just said now but I don't understand why you said when you said, "The issue here is intellectual, not intelligent." I don't understand what you mean when you say that. How is it a response to my post? I don't understand the how it responds to what I said.


I was going based off the original question.



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20 May 2018, 3:55 pm

You can have intelligent people who are not interested in “intellectual” topics—like philosophy or art history.

They might only be into “practical” things, like knowing how to save an orphaned animal.

I’m not an “intellectual,” though I do like “intellectual” topics. My primary focus is more on the “creative” than on the “intellectual.” Sometimes, one can be a quite creative, but focus primarily on the Mundane.

I’ve known intelligent people who never finished high school. They probably won’t seem like “intellectuals” at first glance.



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20 May 2018, 4:28 pm

I was diagnosed after Aspie went away.

At 60+ I have a high IQ and a collection of toys at home and in my office.

I also forgot to turn off the water before removing hose from our washing machine.

Difference is in the eye of the beholder.
( just watched Gypsy /Romania over the top wedding dresses.)

But I digress as usual.


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20 May 2018, 8:16 pm

livingwithautism wrote:
skibum wrote:
livingwithautism wrote:
skibum wrote:
livingwithautism wrote:
skibum wrote:
Alla wrote:
Do you think intellectual aspies have a different form of asperger's than non-intellectual ones? Is it only giftedness in the intellectuals that makes them different?
I have met both intellectual and non-intellectual aspies and they strike me as having a different form of asperger's. I could be wrong however.

I am very intelligent but I am very immature. I can intellectualize til the cows come home but it is a precocious intellect because it is not accompanied by intellectual maturity. I intellectualize but I have trouble thinking. So even though I am gifted intellectually, and I can have very high levels of analytical conversations, I am not able to get my life together and manage to survive completely independently. I still require a good bit of support. And emotionally I am not capable of processing like an adult at all. My intellectual analytical ability also does not help me with social awareness. Socially, the best I can do is like a six to eight year old.
Oh ok. Thank you for explaining. I understand now. :D

The issue here was intellectual, not intelligent.
I don't understand what that means


You don't have to be intellectual to be intelligent, but you do have to be intelligent to be intellectual.
OK. I understand what you just said now but I don't understand why you said when you said, "The issue here is intellectual, not intelligent." I don't understand what you mean when you say that. How is it a response to my post? I don't understand the how it responds to what I said.


I was going based off the original question.


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20 May 2018, 8:20 pm

kraftiekortie wrote:
You can have intelligent people who are not interested in “intellectual” topics—like philosophy or art history.

They might only be into “practical” things, like knowing how to save an orphaned animal.

I’m not an “intellectual,” though I do like “intellectual” topics. My primary focus is more on the “creative” than on the “intellectual.” Sometimes, one can be a quite creative, but focus primarily on the Mundane.

I’ve known intelligent people who never finished high school. They probably won’t seem like “intellectuals” at first glance.
When I say that I intellectualize, I don't mean that I talk about things like art and history. I can a little bit and sometimes I even enjoy that but what I mean is that whatever the topic I am talking about, whether it's skiing or how my brain works or what emotions I feel about a situation that may have happened, or what I had for dinner, I actually analyze it in a very intellectual way. That is what I mean by intellectualizing.


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20 May 2018, 8:31 pm

I get you :)



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20 May 2018, 8:36 pm

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I get you :)
I'm so glad you do. You're a good friend Kraftie :D


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