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I disagree.

I don't understand what do you mean. I don't understand your assumption of my post! My God I don't understand. So say what you think as I do and as you just did. See get the point. I already said some responses were a defense mechanism and your statement above proves that.

So is calling someone an aspie wrong? Is having autism wrong? These are similar topics but different.

Why do you disagree?

Autism Speaks does not speak for me. I must also add that this will be my last post in this thread, because I'm just going around in circles here.

Did my response seem a defense mechanism?

Edit: I refer to my thought as a train(wreck) of thought not because you derailed my train of thought but because I am having difficulty finding/staying on the rails in the first place.

I am actually quite interested in the way we form our identities around our disorders. I do not think it is 'wrong' to say that someone has autism or is autistic, and having these labels for ourselves definitely provides clarity. I do think that it can become an obsession wherein we may begin to look for autism's explanation for all of our actions (earlier I was trying to describe this and could not do so without making a personal reference, though I really would like to bring that thought to the next level, so to speak) and then autism becomes more than just an explanation, it becomes an obsession, and then we are really just obsessed with ourselves.

If one is trying to 'cure' or 'fight' autism (like in that video you posted the other day, don't remember what it was called but it was directed by alfonso cuaron and it had extreme undertones of fear-mongering) and one is autistic, does that mean one is at war with oneself?

If it helps, I am recently diagnosed and may be struggling to assimilate my identity in the face of this word and all these behavioral / cognitive descriptions that are uncannily 'me' but I would like to be more than just autism and also not feel the need to be at odds with myself (struggling to make myself 'normal' or to get rid of my autism). Though before diagnosis I was not much of an advocate for my self nor did I realize that there were clear, understandable ways to describe what was me (in a neurological sense, not just "I am a girl who likes to ride a bicycle and do crossword puzzles")

I don't think so; I'm having the same difficulties that other people are. A lot of your replies to quoted posts don't seem to have much to do with the post quoted, and some of your sentences seem to change direction right in the middle. It goes beyond grammar; I can't follow the logic of much of what you say.

In other words your repeating what others have said and do not think for yourself or do not wish to expose your thoughts? In order for a point of view to be respected it must also be fully explained. Politics hide facts like this so truth can be distorted.

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That's because it has more then to do with your mind. I interact with one person in hopes of finding context and another observer is lost. That's does not mean I am to defected to be listened to and to be given up on. My way of saying your not much different then what you and others call the N.T's. Do these statements result in a certain emotion for you?

Like many of the rebels statements he assumes the world many ways and therefore this world-view defines in part his perception of others. I personally believe egg shells I don't understand and not because I don't understand but because your playing social chit chat with the fellow clique members to derail the topic like N.T's do. Therefore your on egg shells but I will give you an excuse this time because the new topic and rules are not posted.

I'm sorry I don't understand. That means your defending yourself. Therefore a defense mechanism in context.

This conversation has become to many different sub-topics.

My hope is with some social guidelines in a future post I can go ahead and get into more specifics rather then egg shells, rails, butt-heads, rebels and horse pooh in general. Just logic and human emotion possibilities without the defense mechanisms with the aspie to N.T social framework which we are speaking within on the alien N.T website.. People will derail topics (not understand on purpose) and not respond with there feelings but simply not understand.

When you say "another observer is lost", does that mean you think I am no longer paying attention to your ideas? That is not the case. I have trouble following your writing, but I do try to understand it because I think you have ideas that are worth thinking about.
I don't know if the statements result in a certain emotion for me; can the desire to communicate effectively with someone and reach an understanding be pinned down to one emotion?
I'm also not sure about what I and others call the NTs: are you saying that underneath the differences, autistics and NTs are essentially similar? I would agree with this because of the common humanity of people. If you are saying that most people on this website, myself included, ascribe certain sets of traits to those without autism, and that we are "not much different", thus implying that we share common traits- well, I cannot respond to that unless said traits are specified. I can't respond if I don't know what I'm responding to.

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I dont understand.

What don't you understand? I answered the parts of your post that I could and tried to get clarification of the parts that weren't clear to me.

Wait, are you saying that if someone doesn't understand you, the fault is with their mind?
Surely it is both how you communicate and how they interpret that cause the problem.

Like you I don't understand. So can we explore the fundamental frameworks of N.T and Aspie together in another post? If we begin with vague concepts and people invent into the reality of the existence of these labels and form common false belief opinions and view the world these ways then they just don't understand. The problem begins with labeling, emotions (anger toward the world) and ideological interferences combining with emotions and the self-identity. .

I will handle your other parts of the reply a little later and I encourage others to stop posting in this topic.

My brain is very specific and anything else I can't seem to focus on well.

Anything further will be replied with by me as "I don't understand".

I don't understand how you arrived at the conclusion I am like a god judge.

Surely we both don't understand.