Aspies/auties and f***ed up beliefs

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I was putting a comic twist on a serious, perhaps even tragic issue and playing it out to it's logical conclusion. I was seeing it in my mind as a film and thinking it might make a good one. I saw the prostitutes in all their forms and levels from street corners to pent houses and I saw the johns that pay for their services. There are several ways you could run with this if you were going to shape it into a work of fiction. You would certainly have to include the young people, male and female, who go into prostitution to pay for their drug habits, and these would far out number those who get into it to pay the rent and put food on the table. I wasn't offering support to either side of the issue of legalized prostitution.. I wanted to make it clear that I was not being sarcastic but merely constructing an interesting, slightly ironic and amusing scenario as I toyed with the idea of what it would be like to have legalized prostitution in the US so I included the smiley.

There was no spiel and no message at the end of a spiel. I was addressing another member's comment about the inevitability of the thread turning into a debate over issues. Since the thread topic is (I think) "Aspies on WP with f****d up ideas" I simply stated that you can't talk about the subject matter without talking about the subject matter.

Now, if you want to know what I think about prostitution and incest - they both STINK and all the slick double talk and word traps in the world are not going to change that.

So, the emboldened wasn't referring to your logical consequences of legalizing prostitution and was in no way an emotional reaction to the aforementioned parts of your post?

Btw, "message" was meant in a semiotic way, that is, a string of symbols that are used to communicate meaning.

It seems pretty spot on that I was able to infer your actual stance on prostitution from my interpretation of the post's meaning, so I'm thinking there is likely some emotional connection that I accurately interpreted. Maybe the correct word wasn't "sarcasm".



So it was a joke like I thought.

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Thank you for the clarification.

Zen:

jmnixon95:

I was responding to the comments of Zen and jmnixon95. And I didn't embold anything. I wasn't offended by "message" by I didn't like "spiel" because of the carnival barker image I get from that word. But thank you for explaining semiotic. If that's what I was doing I wasn't doing it consciously.

It wasn't exactly a joke. It was more like using comedy to shed light on issues and evoke pathos.

Quoting Verdandi

You're welcome.

By that logic nightclubs should be illegal.

The best argument I've heard against legalizing prostitution is that it would create more social pressure for impoverished women to get off welfare and "work". Society would evolve into a state that forces more people into it against their will.

However as it stands it creates a dangerous environment for those who ARE forced into it while it's illegal.

It's also worth mentioning there are many who choose to be prostitutes.

But aside from the health concerns I think the real abhorance to prostitution results from the superficiality of the relationship. In a normal relationship a man courts a woman, a woman falls in love with him and a sexual relationship occurs before or after marriage and love is offered as a free gift but of course nothing is really free as she is entitled to support. With prostitution a woman is offered money so she can give her body but in reality she cares nothing about the man to the point were they do not even have a superficial relationship. Of course night club relationships are often times superficial but society is more accepting of these relationships because at least some chemistry is involved. With prostitution there is no chemistry or attraction involved other than money so it becomes an obscene form of capitalism.

And this idea about "getting off welfare". I think society would far more tolerate the socialism of a welfare state to a state of unbridled capitalism where woman are forced to sell their bodies in order to survive. I think when people talk about "getting off welfare" they envision a woman getting a respectable job or marrying a man who is gainfully employed. And nobody ever really gets off welfare and is totally independant. Any good paying job offers social welfare benefits such as health insurance, retirement, disability and unemployment insurance benefits.

I suppose I have f****d up beliefs. I'm okay with that.

Apparently so do I. You're not alone.

I have had many f**ked-up beliefs, and many beliefs that others (usually NT or extreme opinionated aspie) just THOUGHT were f****d up, but really theirs were just as bad or worse. I once had to leave my crazy mother who thought I was craziest person in the world but that she was normal and good. She was crazier, and her belief that I was the nutsy one was crazy.

lol people not knowing about the phelps family... cute.

ooh, i think broccoli is wrong... can we make broccoli illegal too?? =D

I never heard of the Phelps family either. I could probably ask everyone in my family which is pretty large and they wouldn't know who the Phelps family is either.

Who are they

I think name calling is wrong, so that should be illegal, too. f**k freedom of speech. Jail the name callers!

the phelps family founded (and is the vast majority of) the westboro baptist church in topeka, kansas. they're all (or almost all) lawyers and stuff, and pretty much go around doing the most offensive things possible in hopes that someone will be violent towards them so they can sue the person. or at least i'm pretty sure that's what they're up to. they take advantage of their first-amendment rights to stage extremely hateful but peaceful protests with signs such as "thank god for 9/11", "god hates dead soldiers", "obama eats babies" (or something like that), "bitch-burger" (i think that's what it was... that had an explanation behind it, i think something to do with obama eating babies again), and their most famous one, "god hates fags". they've protested at my school several times (i live about 30 minutes away from topeka) and protested at my graduation (like every year, because omg we don't kill gay people, we suck) but they travel worldwide to protest... except the UK because they're not allowed there. but the big thing they do is protest at the funerals of soldiers. so pretty much everyone hates them, regardless of political ideas, because they try to do something to piss EVERYONE off.

that was just from memory, but here's the wikipedia article =P http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Westboro_Baptist_Church

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