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04 May 2011, 6:45 pm

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What I was saying is that we DO exist in a social matrix, so it makes sense to attempt to take some responsibility for how we relate to the groups and individuals within it for mine and their benefit. How does that make me some kind of 'flood'? I call it rational


And if our brains dont naturally comply, or that social matrix is poisoned with fascist ideology?

Is it wise to not attempt relating???

Like, ''I would rather be alone than sell out or become corrupted by this groups ideals'



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04 May 2011, 6:49 pm

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What I was saying is that we DO exist in a social matrix, so it makes sense to attempt to take some responsibility for how we relate to the groups and individuals within it for mine and their benefit. How does that make me some kind of 'flood'? I call it rational

That doesn't make *you* a flood, that makes you a part of the flood of individuals who think like you in *some way* and express the same social feedback about the same kind of certain social expressions(Posts, speeches, etc.). But you're not necessarily the same in all ways. You've already indicated your independent bent indicates there are many ways about you that are dissimilar from the majority of your peers.

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If you're having problems finding your group, it might be that you can learn to do the same, instead of chiding others who do. Holding onto your previous experiences with bitterness will only keep you back.


Hey, I'm not chiding anyone who's found their group -- I say good for them! The last sentence was just a tangent lamenting for those who haven't 'found their place' in this world. I'm empathizing for them.

All I've been really doing was pointing out the particular positive and negative social feedback loops that relate to social positioning and popularity, so that everyone who might be interested in understanding the dynamics of popularity can better understand them. (Such as those who apparently don't understand "popularity".)



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04 May 2011, 6:54 pm

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Moog wrote:
What I was saying is that we DO exist in a social matrix, so it makes sense to attempt to take some responsibility for how we relate to the groups and individuals within it for mine and their benefit. How does that make me some kind of 'flood'? I call it rational


And if our brains dont naturally comply, or that social matrix is poisoned with fascist ideology?

Is it wise to not attempt relating???

Like, ''I would rather be alone than sell out or become corrupted by this groups ideals'


That's up to you. And if you choose that route, then all power to you.


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04 May 2011, 6:57 pm

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Moog wrote:
What I was saying is that we DO exist in a social matrix, so it makes sense to attempt to take some responsibility for how we relate to the groups and individuals within it for mine and their benefit. How does that make me some kind of 'flood'? I call it rational

That doesn't make *you* a flood, that makes you a part of the flood of individuals who think like you in *some way* and express the same social feedback about the same kind of certain social expressions(Posts, speeches, etc.). But you're not necessarily the same in all ways. You've already indicated your independent bent indicates there are many ways about you that are dissimilar from the majority of your peers.

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If you're having problems finding your group, it might be that you can learn to do the same, instead of chiding others who do. Holding onto your previous experiences with bitterness will only keep you back.


Hey, I'm not chiding anyone who's found their group -- I say good for them! The last sentence was just a tangent lamenting for those who haven't 'found their place' in this world. I'm empathizing for them.

All I've been really doing was pointing out the particular positive and negative social feedback loops that relate to social positioning and popularity, so that everyone who might be interested in understanding the dynamics of popularity can better understand them. (Such as those who apparently don't understand "popularity".)


Fair enough. I think you've been putting things in a way that seems antagonistic. I am going to assume that's part of your ASD and forgive you.


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04 May 2011, 7:19 pm

Now I want to make submissive chirping sounds.


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04 May 2011, 7:24 pm

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Now I want to make submissive chirping sounds.


If you do, I'll make them back! (how terribly NT of us would that be?)


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04 May 2011, 7:28 pm

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Oh dear, you've never experienced the wrath of the collective to know of its existence like many aspies have been intimately familiarized with, have you? "The collective" doesn't necessarily mean every single person, just the vast majority. And there are other subgroups within the collective, that have their own appreciation of certain ways of thinking, beliefs and/or expression. I'm sure it is the previous divisions and subgroups within the collective that you're thinking of that makes you think it doesn't exist. Well, it does. Ask any aspie!


I've experienced it. I just don't believe agreeing = collective thought.

It's nice to see you deciding I don't have Aspergers because I disagree with you, though.


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04 May 2011, 7:31 pm

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Now I want to make submissive chirping sounds.


I am going to make dominant honking sounds. Would anyone care to join me?


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04 May 2011, 7:32 pm

I'm more of a dominant 'put me in my place' sort of person. Anyone care to challenge me?


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04 May 2011, 7:34 pm

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I'm more of a dominant 'put me in my place' sort of person. Anyone care to challenge me?


I'd noticed. :wink:

*HONK HONK!*


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04 May 2011, 7:34 pm

For all those who are clueless about "social feedback loops" that demonstrate ones social positioning within the social hierarchy that underlies this phenomenon called 'popularity', please see the last couple of posts. They definitely exist.



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04 May 2011, 7:36 pm

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I'm more of a dominant 'put me in my place' sort of person. Anyone care to challenge me?


I'd noticed. :wink:

*HONK HONK!*


*HONK HONK*


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04 May 2011, 7:37 pm

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For all those who are clueless about "social feedback loops" that demonstrate ones social positioning within the social hierarchy that underlies this phenomenon called 'popularity', please see the last couple of posts. They definitely exist.


I don't think anyone was doubting they exist, just some of your assertions about them.

I see you didn't apologise to Tea. That would be a good social move.


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04 May 2011, 7:39 pm

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For all those who are clueless about "social feedback loops" that demonstrate ones social positioning within the social hierarchy that underlies this phenomenon called 'popularity', please see the last couple of posts. They definitely exist.


Nobody said they didn't exist. We merely disagree with your assessment of them.


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04 May 2011, 7:40 pm

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swbluto wrote:

Oh dear, you've never experienced the wrath of the collective to know of its existence like many aspies have been intimately familiarized with, have you? "The collective" doesn't necessarily mean every single person, just the vast majority. And there are other subgroups within the collective, that have their own appreciation of certain ways of thinking, beliefs and/or expression. I'm sure it is the previous divisions and subgroups within the collective that you're thinking of that makes you think it doesn't exist. Well, it does. Ask any aspie!


I've experienced it. I just don't believe agreeing = collective thought.


Collective thought is a common similarity in thinking, such as those that characterize NT thinking.

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It's nice to see you deciding I don't have Aspergers because I disagree with you, though


You might have it, but I don't have the evidence for making that assumption, do I? So, just to be safe, ask another aspie.



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04 May 2011, 7:41 pm

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I see you didn't apologise to Tea. That would be a good social move.


For what, exactly? Remember, think like someone with AS. They have no idea what might need to be forgiven because they don't perceive a "social blunder".