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Abolish the Asperger's Word?
YES 35%  35%  [ 22 ]
NO 65%  65%  [ 41 ]
Total votes : 63

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13 Jun 2011, 10:27 am

Cornflake wrote:
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Wow, in every thread of yours there is a vid about someone farting..
Yeah i noticed that too... See I find THAT a lot more offensive than words...
There is something offensive about naturally occuring bodily functions that happen to everyone?
Depends on the, umm, "presentation" I guess.
I don't think i could get offended about something like that even if I wanted to.
I think I'd get pretty offended if someone dropped a loud one in my face as they passed me while seated on a bus. :eew:


Well if someone intentionally did that to me on a bus I might be a little bit irritated, then again if it was really crowded and it happened by accident I dont think I would really care.



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13 Jun 2011, 10:49 am

Not only is the neuroscience research not complete enough about potential differences/similarities between AS and HFA brains to abolish the Asperger diagnosis, it is completely unfair to Dr. Hans Asperger. Any condition that has been named after the scientist who discovered the condition should KEEP the scientist's name. I completely disagree with the DSM-V's decision to eliminate Asperger's Syndrome as a diagnosis, and I will say that I have Asperger's Syndrome my entire life, no matter what the DSM says.


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13 Jun 2011, 10:51 am

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Politics is also about making your ideological opponents look bad through mudslinging and insinuation when there's nothing solid to hang on them.
Yep and I got a style that rocks not only boats but makes for big waves. I call it civil rights social justice with a cherry on top. Come get some ASAN.
And in this context, while ignoring what dyingofpoetry asked - isn't this style (amply illustrated in your earlier posts) also called "hyperbole"?


Yes and No.. As people shouldn't get away with that kind of bull themselves when it becomes destructive to the otherwise innocent. It's just given it back at them. People need to learn to solve the problems without destructiveness. It's my harsh way of teaching but first there needs to be the attention for the lesson.


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13 Jun 2011, 10:55 am

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Wow, in every thread of yours there is a vid about someone farting..


Only in a few and a very few. Testing the humor. The goal was to have others consider I am immature and then do a lesson on emotional maturity and autism advocacy. The inability at times to tolerate compassionate premises. The emotional immaturity toward autism advocacy at times and when applicable. One tends to draw them out of the scene in one grand sweep socially.


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13 Jun 2011, 11:31 am

ci wrote:
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Wow, in every thread of yours there is a vid about someone farting..


Only in a few and a very few. Testing the humor. The goal was to have others consider I am immature and then do a lesson on emotional maturity and autism advocacy. The inability at times to tolerate compassionate premises. The emotional immaturity toward autism advocacy at times and when applicable. One tends to draw them out of the scene in one grand sweep socially.


What would we do without your insightful life lessons, O Great One?

I will not be responding further to this thread, as you have still failed to provide one instance of ASAN hurting a specific individual, so I find your opinion incredible. I can only conclude that, much like the retired guy in the Mini-Mart talking about the government, you just need something to complain about.... and you chose ASAN just because you know the majority respect them and so by attacking them you can draw attention to yourself.


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13 Jun 2011, 11:37 am

The majority do not even know of them. People with autism do not need to go along with guilting the public about autism abortion issues to get get their way. I don't think they need to because the public is not as awful as imagined. And finally there is a certain causality scientifically with social cause and effect. I'd say they harmed myself and others with isolation tendencies for going up against autism isolation related advocacy which was down right wrong headed of them. The methods, styles and tactics they use I do not support. I believe in being friendly toward the public and using the public as the ally and not calling them bigots or naturally intolerant. It's just the opposite of the Martin Luther King. Jr style and I believe the kinds of advocacy they use to gain their attention are in the long-run harmful and as of current ill effective. They must be held to the same standards of science if you are to hold me to it. Otherwise they are allowed to get away with anything and anyone with autism that stands up to them will simply be not held to the same standards.


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06 Sep 2011, 9:52 pm

Sorry I do recongnise that hfa and aspergers have enough differences to be a different diagnosis while there similarities between hfa aspergers and pddnos there are also differences and there are to be kept as seperate diagnosis



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06 Sep 2011, 9:53 pm

Sorry for the late reply and I do recongnise that hfa and aspergers have enough differences to be a different diagnosis while there similarities between hfa aspergers and pddnos there are also differences and there are to be kept as seperate diagnosis



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07 Sep 2011, 1:06 am

The sound of the word doesn't really bother me and I do think that there's sufficent difference between Asperger's (AS), HFA and classic "autism" that there needs to be the terminology to distinguish them.



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07 Sep 2011, 2:03 pm

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I do not think the people that created the word were being polite.


It's just a guy's name! There is nothing offensive about it, just because it happens to English-speaking people to sound similar to something offensive. This is so Anglo-centric, acting like we need to police what kind of sound combinations other languages have so they don't resemble dirty words in our language. (f*****g, Austria also runs into problems like this, with stupid tourists stealing their town sign and making fun of them.)

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I kind of worry where a lot of people diagnosed PDD-NOS might fall with these criteria.


Well, I was diagnosed with PDD NOS and I meet the new criteria. Actually in my opinion they seem broader than AS and autism criteria were.

Oh, and now I meet criteria for ADHD-inattentive type, when I didn't used to.



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07 Sep 2011, 3:06 pm

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It's just a guy's name! There is nothing offensive about it, just because it happens to English-speaking people to sound similar to something offensive.


I feel compelled to mention this when ever the topic comes up; the word ass in this context is only applicable to North American English speaking people. We don't use it anatomically in England (except those who slavishly follow all things American). We have our own word thank you very much.



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07 Sep 2011, 3:47 pm

ci, this is probably the only thing we have ever agreed on.



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07 Sep 2011, 4:28 pm

I did my final speech on this because I thought it would be some source of inspiration.

Looking back, it's not too big of a deal, though I still believe Autism and Aspergers aren't exactly one in the same. I voted "No."



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07 Sep 2011, 9:09 pm

I also don't wish for it to be abolished.


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07 Sep 2011, 9:48 pm

Didn't they abolish words in the book 1984 to help streamline the NewSpeak langauge and help people "think properly"?


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07 Sep 2011, 9:54 pm

I found that funny actually. :twisted: