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31 Aug 2011, 9:33 pm

srriv345 wrote:

I find it odd that some of the people here who seem to think that official diagnosis is the only kind that count are suggesting that the OP discount the possibility of being on the spectrum because of what her stepmother thinks.

I know you did not specify me, but I really hope you did not get that impression from my posts because I absolutely do not believe this. In fact, in her other post (where I referred to her stepmother more), I told her to completely discount what her stepmother said because she is not a qualified professional. I personally never tell anyone who is self-diagnosed that they are not on the spectrum--I just say if they want to know for sure, then they should go get an evaluation.

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31 Aug 2011, 9:39 pm

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littlelily613 wrote:

All these people who are ganging up on me, saying

Incidentally, if I came across as "ganging up on you" I apologize. I know we have a semantic disagreement on this topic, but I respect you and I did not want to (nor would I want to) participate in any ganging up.

No, Verdandi--no worries, that wasn't about you. And it was kind of a broader reference to several threads lately--in more than 2000 posts, I have never had such tension here.

I know you don't always agree with me, but you've always been respectful.

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31 Aug 2011, 9:40 pm

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When I was in my early 20's I thought I knew it all, and was probably insufferable in many ways.

I can't speak for Tuttle, but my being 27 is irrelevant. I am not you--I am nothing like you. I absolutely DO NOT think I know everything. I am also not "insufferable". Just because someone disagrees with their "elders" does not make them insufferable. Not all older people know everything either.

I can add that I do not think that I know everything, however I will admit that I will try to explain my views on the subject in ways that might imply that more people think what I'm saying than just me. It's actually just my writing style that does that though.

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31 Aug 2011, 10:23 pm

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Well, people should stop ganging up at any rate.

And it's not so much whether it's about me, just - I didn't know if my post about self-DX came across badly or not, and when you pointed out a lot of people were going on about it...yeah, anyway.

I do agree that something's been more tense around here lately.

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31 Aug 2011, 10:25 pm

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I do agree that something's been more tense around here lately.

It sure seems that way.

I didn't do anything.

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31 Aug 2011, 10:28 pm

SammichEater wrote:

Verdandi wrote:

I do agree that something's been more tense around here lately.

It sure seems that way.

I didn't do anything.

I don't THINK I did either.....

Glad I am not the only one noticing it either. Hopefully it doesn't last long, but at least I know the tension is not entirely in my head.

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31 Aug 2011, 10:30 pm

littlelily613 wrote:

SammichEater wrote:

Verdandi wrote:

I do agree that something's been more tense around here lately.

It sure seems that way.

I didn't do anything.

I don't THINK I did either.....

Glad I am not the only one noticing it either. Hopefully it doesn't last long, but at least I know the tension is not entirely in my head.

The tension was first noticed exactly 12 posts after my post. This MUST mean... it's all my fault. I apologize, guys.

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31 Aug 2011, 10:35 pm

I haven't noticed the tension exactly, except for the usual tension when talking about self-diagnosis, but I have noticed something about my experiences on WP vs. NT forums. On WP, I feel much less tense or annoyed or angry when someone expresses opposing opinions or says that I am wrong or interprets something I said in ways that I didn't mean. Even with disagreements and misunderstandings, this forum is like Valium compared to NT forums. I feel calm here.

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31 Aug 2011, 10:36 pm

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The tension was first noticed exactly 12 posts after my post. This MUST mean... it's all my fault. I apologize, guys.

I don't think it is the fault of one person.

It is also not just this one thread. It's been all over this particular forum for the past few days, and I am pretty sure I felt it before this thread even started.

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31 Aug 2011, 10:39 pm

btbnnyr wrote:

Oh, it's much the same for me.

Things have just gone a bit more negative than usual.

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01 Sep 2011, 3:48 am

littlelily613 wrote:

nemorosa wrote:

You're talking about that of which you know nothing.

Excuse me? I absolutely DO know how it is.

No, what you think you know does not apply to the situation where I am. What you have written indicates you do not comprehend that.

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The system you have in Canada is obviously very different to what we have around here.

How does this equate with a knowledge of NOTHING? LOL

Because you were talking as if what you said were fact without any regard to location.

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Well you can believe what ever percentages you like if it makes you feel better

It doesn't "make me feel better". They seem accurate to me. Right--no one knows. That means you do not either--so how can you not diminish the 90/10 idea but belittle me? LOL This is P-A-T-H-E-T-I-C!

I've already responded about the 90% figure. It seems you don't want to listen. I haven't said I knew. Really, I'm being pathetic? Careful with that language there anyhow, I'm sure that's not quite in the spirit of the forum rules.

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You shouldn't use phrases such as "highly doubtful" if you don't honestly have a clue.

Highly doubtful TOOOOOOOOO MEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE! Get it? Good!

:roll:

So if it is just a funny fuzzy feeling you have with no facts to back it up then why bother sharing it with us?

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01 Sep 2011, 4:02 am

What is wrong with the phrase, "highly doubtful"? Are we not allowed to express alternate opinions? :?: :?: :?:

Actually, in some parts of the world, you do require a psychiatrist to sign off on whether someone has ASD or not before you can officially access services. A psychiatrist can diagnose someone with ASD, although for the most part, testing is usually done by psychologists. Remember, a psychiatrist is a trained health professional and the majority have some knowledge about ASD, so I don't know why some people are being dismissive of them.

For instance, I live in Australia and I couldn't ask for services based on my ASD just on my psychologist's say-so.

I don't necessarily think that self-dxing is completely off-base, but I agree with those who are saying you do need a professional eye. Sure, no-one can ever know the inner workings of another person's mind, but even so, ASD symptoms can be prominent enough that if you know what to look for, it can become quite obvious.

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01 Sep 2011, 4:03 am

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As I said in a reply to littlelily this particular psychiatrist does diagnose those with aspergers but most importantly of all, he is the gate keeper to all mental health services in my area. You don't understand how things work here at all.

Please forgive our ignorance about the psychiatric system in "the Poop Deck".

Now you are just being rude.

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So I am left for the moment as self-diagnosed.

I am not implying that you do not have an ASD, but how do you know the doctor is not biased and simply not seeing what you see? If he is qualified to diagnose ASDs, then maybe he knows a thing or two about what he is talking about. Or maybe not. But I wouldn't completely call him totally biased just because you disagree with him....

Again you read but do not comprehend. He can make a legitimate diagnosis but that is not the same as being "qualified", do you see? For reasons far too long to go into here I have many reasons not to respect his judgement. But this was never about me per se, I only cited him as an example.

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01 Sep 2011, 4:08 am

littlelily613 wrote:

nemorosa wrote:

When I was in my early 20's I thought I knew it all, and was probably insufferable in many ways.

You have been constantly "telling it like it is" thinking your experience and knowledge is universal, and becoming increasingly emotional and personal when in conflict with something outside of your limited world view. Some might say that's insufferable.

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01 Sep 2011, 6:20 am

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What is wrong with the phrase, "highly doubtful"? Are we not allowed to express alternate opinions? :?:

Because such a statement in isolation is meaningless. Aren't you interested in why someone thinks the way they do? What is the thought processes and reasoning by which this opinion is derived? Even if I disagreed with the conclusions, at least I could understand where they are coming from.

It is not my fault that some person(s) became upset at my amusement at them apparently plucking figures out of the air. It could have been left at that, but it seems some skins are too thin.

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01 Sep 2011, 7:52 am

swbluto wrote:

You seem to have a lot of NT mannerisms, responses and speech patterns.

everyone on here seems to... unless pointless debating on a message forum and screaming about diagnoses and neurology of psychiatrist and neurologist is considered an asperger trait...

Is it really that "NT" to think this way? Well, than I guess Japanese anime and pokemon taught me a lot about NT way of "speech" in the occasion of a pointless fight on a message forum...

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