Wrong Planet = Harbor for haters?

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I wasn't going to get involved in this thread as it has the look of one which is going nowhere and has those characteristics (whether by design or not) which are sure to agitate. But I got sucked in anyhow.

There's such a lot wrong with this. If it were pervasive you'd see it (by definition) everywhere, and that's just not true. Secondly, "hate" is such an extreme word; I don't recall having read about anybody hating anything around here, NT or otherwise. It is frequently used in error by people when they mean to say they have a dislike for something.

Next, why would you think NT us a code for "Mankind"? Given the type of literal minded and direct type of person who posts at WP NT would mean NT don't you think?



The appearance of the video is inexplicable. It is the opinion of one unbalanced person and seems to be included just to rile the natives, so to speak.



I think you'll find many of those are just sad, lonely and bitter people. Why would they deplore woman when they so desperately want to be liked and have a relationship with women?



Yes.

Not only that, this is taken out of context. This may very well be a sarcastic post or a hyperbole. We don't know what the context of the post is, and to put it out there as a serious representation of the beliefs of WP members is so far beyond stupid that I wonder why swbluto felt the need to post that trash here.

~Kate

It all distills down to Theory of Mind. Communicating is all about ToM. My sw assessment is that he has below average ToM, and not knowing him well enough as to speculate, he might be this way due to a severe lack of 'people contact'( obviously). One wouldn't be aware of this until they( people) work their way into you by 'contact,' and then one gains insight into many different ways of thinking. This can come about by reading and observation alone, not necessarily by direct engagement.

If the lack is not here( "people contact") then it is centered in cognition by default, e.g. long term memory,etc. Maybe it can't work its way into you because of ADD. I've had to learn how to learn, due to a disruption in instinct by this condition. I learned the missing elements by observation in others' cognition so I don't miss a bunch of incoming information. The brain idles along in la la land, and you only learn by hard knocks alone.

I don't see good insight by someone with 3 deviations of IQ.

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The only good NT is a dead NT. Thats gonna be my motto when I begin my killing spree. I doubt anyone here actually hates NTs. NTs are more diverse than people on the spectrum. Some of them I like. Some I don't. Its ignorant, narrow minded idiots that can't pull their heads outta their holes and think outside the box for 10 seconds that I don't like. Unfortunately, plenty of people on this forum seem to fit that criteria. Although I have to say I seem to encounter more free thinkers on this forum than any other broad topic forum like this. Probably because people on the spectrum realize they can never be part of the herd and consequently, don't care much for the consensus.

This post was made because of jealousy

Dont you think so?

I think it is understandable that some people may be afraid of the AS ToM because they can only relate to themselves, so the poor guys are blocked by their egos and probably dream about having some roots themselves for using them egoistically, which is a cute thought, like back to baby.

Creating posts like these is a step behind because its an answer to and use of something existing and therefore no own creation.

Its jealousy and fear of inferiority, as if it matters.

No bad thoughts against NTs at all. I wonder sometimes if there is a chance for them to step out of the labyrinth. I keep meeting NTs who can.

Tell me, exactly how would you see if the above mechanism is working by launching and following this thread without too many assumptions? (like, NT = not having any form of autism, or ppl who self-diagnose likely have/don't have this/that condition and such)

Straight to the "question."

Yes, I think WP can be, and is for some, a harbor for haters.

I'm not one of them, though I have been sucked in by the toxins that are spewed from time to time.

I've found the best way to deal with it, for me, has been to keep my time on here somewhat short. Comment a bit, question a bit (start threads), and, if it does happen, get off the moment I see something that pisses me off. The second that happens, I sign off and find something else to do. There are plenty of other things that can be done. I do have to eat, work, clean house, and have many other important things to do, so there really is no excuse to feel as though I need to respond to every little thing that bothers me.

Sometimes it amounts to "hit and run" posting, but it's okay. I am not obliged to respond to every single response to my own posts. I am not obliged to "correct" anyone I might feel is wrong.

It's helped me keep a much more positive outlook here on WP, and, more importantly to the point, by taking this approach, I see very little of whatever toxicity there is here now.

I feel sorry for trolls.

If you have a form of autism, why hate, as labelled, the 'nt', it doesnt make you any better, and you are just fuelling the stigma which the rest of us live in.
I dont hate people, I personally have enough suffering in the real world with the stigma and mistreatment, and i experience the affects of petty maliciousness and hate amoungst people.

I dislike anyone who bullies another, and has nothing better to do than to directly antagonize people and pick out others for sport, no matter their label.

I like to write on this site to read other experiences and share my own about having aspergers, but im finding it harder to relate to others on here in certain ways and i find it hard when 90% of the time whatever i say gets completely missunderstood or overly analysed and turns into something completely opposite to what i originally meant. People in real life do that that to me too. So i feel i dont belong even with fellow aspergians. And I wonder whats all the fighting about which i see with others.

I dont see the time for hate. Why when there is enough in the world.

it takes real work to get past that point.

Posts that are straightforward and blunt without being coated within layers and layers and layers of sugar-sprinkled crap can definitely be interpreted by NTs as NT-hating, but they are not actually written from a hateful mindset, but are just too straighforward and blunt for NTs to stomach due to their own neurology.

I don't hate NTs. All my family are NTs and so are all of my friends and acquaintances. NTs can't help the way they are when it comes to ''NT vs Autism'', no more than I can help the way I am. But I don't actually believe in ''NT vs Autism'' any more. It's gotten a little ridiculous, especially here on WP. It seems like every single thing possible in a human is related to Autism, as though it's hinting that NTs don't do all of those things. Or it says daft random things like ''do Autistic people complain more?'' then another thread comes along a few weeks later saying ''do NT people complain more?'' I won't be surprised if I found threads on here saying things like ''do Autistic people have a splash?'' or ''do Autistic people have a shadow?'' or ''do Autistic people have a reflection?'' or ''do Autistic people haunt when dead?'' and other weird stuff like that what is just invented by people here. So, quite frankly, this goes to show that maybe sometimes I can misunderstand Aspies just as much as I can misunderstand NTs. Or maybe it's me having black and white thinking, or being a skeptic, or just being an opinionative a***hole.

Yes, this is true. I'm no exception to this. I hate myself, and I think most Aspies in the UK who are getting mucked around by the job centre are more likely to be depressed and wish they had normal social skills, because having an a***hole for a prime minister what thinks everybody's got excellent social skills to be able to look for jobs 5 hours a day without no struggle really doesn't help those on the spectrum, or those with other mild disabilities.

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Don't worry, I only can hope for a prime minister who is as competent as yours. Ours is a hyper-uber-arsehole, and that's an understatement...

I relate. Expressed better than I can.

Hate is a waste of life energy.

Did you really think IQ standed for Insightfulness Quotient?

Well about 2 or 3 weeks ago I had a really, really bad dream. It was about a nuclear bomb being set off and killing off the whole of Europe, and I was really panicking and frightened because we just had to sit waiting to die. My cat was purring happily, not knowing that she was going to die in a few hours, and I was sitting with my family in a circle, and any little noise, smell or movement made me think, ''OK, this is it'', but then it wasn't, so we still sat there waiting to die, and I kept imagining what it'd be like at first, when we see it all coming, and how long it will take to kill us, and I really did not want to die but at the same time was desperate to get it all over with, but it was taking such a long time, and I was just so frightened because it's such a horrible thing sitting there waiting to die. I started having a meltdown in the dream and crying and crying and yelling, ''I just wish something came along to save us or to prevent this nuclear bomb from getting to us!'' And my family were like, ''nothing can stop it now. We're all 100 percent seriously going to die, and there's nothing we can do about it.'' And in the dream I was so sure that it was happening.....

Then I woke up, and just found I was in my bed, and the sun was rising outside, and I laid there in relief that it was only a dream, and that I was going to carry on with normal life. And it was then I realised how precious life is, and I should be glad and thankful that the dream wasn't real, and that made me think that hating myself and other people is wasting my time. I have felt less depressed since the disturbing dream I had. So now when I'm having difficulties with an NT, I just think of the dream I had, and would rather have a small conflict with somebody than to sit there waiting to die from a horrible nuclear bomb. I know some people say ''so? Once you're dead, you're dead'', but it's still a horrible thought while you're alive. I do have a phobia of death.

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Nice play.

From the high deviation folks: yes.

I've had friends in the 3rd & 4th. There is some muscle there.

There are exceptions