Autism and Sexuality: Are They Related?
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Why should 'feeling like a man' or 'woman' have to have set characteristics? Humans seem to latch onto labels and categories and assign traits to things and that's why so many people are confused and even unhappy with themselves. You don't need to label yourself with a gender ever, or a sexual orientation. All you are is you. And that's the only way we should describe ourselves.
How are humans supposed to communicate things to each other without having words to describe things. I mean yes I am me that's all good and fine but if I just tell someone 'oh I'm me' that is not going to give them any idea at all what that means.
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Why should 'feeling like a man' or 'woman' have to have set characteristics? Humans seem to latch onto labels and categories and assign traits to things and that's why so many people are confused and even unhappy with themselves. You don't need to label yourself with a gender ever, or a sexual orientation. All you are is you. And that's the only way we should describe ourselves.
How are humans supposed to communicate things to each other without having words to describe things. I mean yes I am me that's all good and fine but if I just tell someone 'oh I'm me' that is not going to give them any idea at all what that means.
True.
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Hard to say really. I have women issues from when I was young and fiund men attractive but care more about personality and interests far more than anything else. I would say homosexual though with low libido.
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Why should 'feeling like a man' or 'woman' have to have set characteristics? Humans seem to latch onto labels and categories and assign traits to things and that's why so many people are confused and even unhappy with themselves. You don't need to label yourself with a gender ever, or a sexual orientation. All you are is you. And that's the only way we should describe ourselves.
How are humans supposed to communicate things to each other without having words to describe things. I mean yes I am me that's all good and fine but if I just tell someone 'oh I'm me' that is not going to give them any idea at all what that means.
So? If someone doesn't get what being you means, then they're a moron, because the only way you can describe you is by saying you're you. Instead of going "I like this", "I like that" or "I'm this, I'm that" you're automatically conforming to something else that doesn't derive from you. If someone went to me "What do you mean you're you? I want answers. Are you this label? Are you that label?" I'd get quite annoyed with them. I shouldn't ever have to explain myself using words that don't completely describe me just so they're like "Oh, I see now." It's just that humans have developed in a way where we can only make sense of something by assigning it with labels, but those labels are false, inaccurate and put heavy expectations on people to be a particular way... and that's definitely not being yourself. Who even says someone HAS to know what you mean? If someone is a good enough person they'd take you as you are regardless. People are more unique than you think.
Sweetleaf
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Why should 'feeling like a man' or 'woman' have to have set characteristics? Humans seem to latch onto labels and categories and assign traits to things and that's why so many people are confused and even unhappy with themselves. You don't need to label yourself with a gender ever, or a sexual orientation. All you are is you. And that's the only way we should describe ourselves.
How are humans supposed to communicate things to each other without having words to describe things. I mean yes I am me that's all good and fine but if I just tell someone 'oh I'm me' that is not going to give them any idea at all what that means.
So? If someone doesn't get what being you means, then they're a moron, because the only way you can describe you is by saying you're you. Instead of going "I like this", "I like that" or "I'm this, I'm that" you're automatically conforming to something else that doesn't derive from you. If someone went to me "What do you mean you're you? I want answers. Are you this label? Are you that label?" I'd get quite annoyed with them. I shouldn't ever have to explain myself using words that don't completely describe me just so they're like "Oh, I see now." It's just that humans have developed in a way where we can only make sense of something by assigning it with labels, but those labels are false, inaccurate and put heavy expectations on people to be a particular way... and that's definitely not being yourself. Who even says someone HAS to know what you mean? If someone is a good enough person they'd take you as you are regardless. People are more unique than you think.
Where did I say anyone was a moron? I was saying people categorize things and such because it makes it easier to express different ideas in ways that can make sense. I was saying in order to describe myself I would have to give some details like that I like music, maybe what kind of music I like and other interests or things about my personality.
Also I don't think all labels are necessarily false an inaccurate, some stereotypes about certain labels or whatever are false and inaccurate or at least exaggerated but the categories themselves aren't wrong in my opinion. I don't see how using lables to describe things is the same as not being yourself? I mean I am certainly not anyone else than me....but various labels do apply, maybe not all the negative stereotypes but I have no issue of falling in certain categories as opposed to others.
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With ASD, I am mainly heterosexual, but I generally like girls. I find them more attractive and they have a interesting personality.
I did try going homosexual once, but I knew I couldn't.
I tried really hard to be asexual, but I can't. (I guess once you fall in love with a few girls, you can't go back)
I have thought about being a transsexual lesbian. (I do believe I was supposed to be a woman, but I like girls.)
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Well crap, I started a war.
But on another note, I might have to add more options to the poll. I'm feeling rather ignorant now.
When I use the term mate, I'm using it as in a sexual mate. Just thought I'd clear things up. Words have different definitions to me. Partner is a non-sexual relationship, mate is a sexual relationship. I don't like the term domestic partner to refer to a homosexual relationship, however. It makes them sound like animals or something. I just use the terms mate and partner for all kinds of relationships.
Why should 'feeling like a man' or 'woman' have to have set characteristics? Humans seem to latch onto labels and categories and assign traits to things and that's why so many people are confused and even unhappy with themselves. You don't need to label yourself with a gender ever, or a sexual orientation. All you are is you. And that's the only way we should describe ourselves.
How are humans supposed to communicate things to each other without having words to describe things. I mean yes I am me that's all good and fine but if I just tell someone 'oh I'm me' that is not going to give them any idea at all what that means.
So? If someone doesn't get what being you means, then they're a moron, because the only way you can describe you is by saying you're you. Instead of going "I like this", "I like that" or "I'm this, I'm that" you're automatically conforming to something else that doesn't derive from you. If someone went to me "What do you mean you're you? I want answers. Are you this label? Are you that label?" I'd get quite annoyed with them. I shouldn't ever have to explain myself using words that don't completely describe me just so they're like "Oh, I see now." It's just that humans have developed in a way where we can only make sense of something by assigning it with labels, but those labels are false, inaccurate and put heavy expectations on people to be a particular way... and that's definitely not being yourself. Who even says someone HAS to know what you mean? If someone is a good enough person they'd take you as you are regardless. People are more unique than you think.
Where did I say anyone was a moron? I was saying people categorize things and such because it makes it easier to express different ideas in ways that can make sense. I was saying in order to describe myself I would have to give some details like that I like music, maybe what kind of music I like and other interests or things about my personality.
Also I don't think all labels are necessarily false an inaccurate, some stereotypes about certain labels or whatever are false and inaccurate or at least exaggerated but the categories themselves aren't wrong in my opinion. I don't see how using lables to describe things is the same as not being yourself? I mean I am certainly not anyone else than me....but various labels do apply, maybe not all the negative stereotypes but I have no issue of falling in certain categories as opposed to others.
I agree. Sometimes you need labels/words to describe yourself and your world and yourself. Labels aren't everything, of course, but they're a way to help you identify who and what you are
Erm... I put it as asexual for the time being since that is the closest. I do experience a form of attraction to guys and girls, more so guys.
The thing is, it could be interpreted as bisexual with no sex drive or asexual without physical attractions. Fantasies, dreams and reactions to erotic material is mixed and does not tell me a thing either way.
The emotional connection required for some is completely absent, the social drive is also absent.
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Just be who you are and don't make excuses for it. That's all.
This whole sexuality determination is really ret*d. alot of people called me a homo in high school. but doesn't mean i was one. i used
to hang with girls. hold hands with one. but seriously, who cares. sure we all get defensive but what's the point of knowing your sexuality
when all you do is get a headache out of it. not everyone in the whole world has to reproduce or get laid. if you feel it, then know your
boundaries.
It takes a stick and a road to reach the end of the journey. i don't think this is my right saying. but i'll say it anyway.
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For accuracy purposes someone who born a man, becomes a "woman", and are attracted to men, should select either select homosexual or bisexual (if also attracted to women).
Same is true for someone born a woman, if you are born a woman, become a "man", and are attracted to women, you are not straight
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