Am i the only one with NO empathy for the Cinema Massacre?
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One thing I've learned is 'aspie lack of empathy' is apparently true for some
I doubt any NT forum would entertain these discussions..... without certain members cyber hunting down and persecuting the non carers....
just as well we are aspie friendly and understanding of difference ![]()
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Well technically a gun can't get up and kill someone therefore it would make sense people kill people with guns rather than guns themselves killing people.
great, so even if you're an experienced mass murderer you can still get guns if becoming one is your ambition.
The point is lack of guns isn't likely to stop a mass murderer since there are other weapons....so I am not sure what you mean.
I think Mr Izzard above has articulated it as eloquently as i ever could hope to.
I might watch it later but I doubt that will convince me...
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I wasn't aware that when people go hunting in the forest their goal is to shoot people.
Ok, the role of guns is to launch bullets through internal organs. Happy?
Its a little more accurate.
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A man kills 12 people at random, and injures another 50 or so people.
Then, I asked myself:
"Was there a justifiable or comprehensible reason for him to shoot these people?" i.e. "Were these people endangering his life before these acts?"
The answer to both these questions is "NO".
After I answer these questions, I then come to the conclusion that what he did for was uncalled for, unjustified and therefore 'immoral'.
With this conclusion, I able to understand the core situation; to end my thesis, the very simple reason I am able to sympathize (NOT empathize) is because I understand the dynamics of the situation; it was to those people's misfortune that they were hurt by this man. I pity them because I was fortunate enough to not be put in that situation, and am frankly glad that it did not happen to me.
...I hope that my post will gives you an idea of one some people (mainly myself) can feel sympathy.
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OP sounds like a dick but it's true. While I want and tell myself I have empathy and compassion for those killed, I feel nothing. I believe what happened was wrong and wish it never happened. However, people die everyday and I have no connection to the people who died. Therefore I think my emotions are appropriate. OP still sounds like a dick though.
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I don't really feel much about it. But on the other hand, I don't find that picture funny.
I don't think it's just an aspie thing. Normal people don't actually feel terrible every single time something happens somewhere in the world. But they know that they shouldn't make jokes about it in public, in case someone who was more affected might notice.
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You say you want to keep guns in the hands of ordinary citizens, well with that comes with having to allow potential mass murderers access to them too. You cant have your cake and eat it.
I know removing guns out of american circulation is easier said than done and what should be done seldomly resembles what is going to happen, but its either that or such massacres are going to continue. Its the whole stupidity of the situation which tires my ability to be empathetic.
Well technically a gun can't get up and kill someone therefore it would make sense people kill people with guns rather than guns themselves killing people. Also its not like anyone regardless of criminal record can go legally buy a gun they do background checks.
Also how would taking guns from the citizens prevent these massacres from continuing? people could still get them illegally...or use other means of destruction. Unless the government wants to give up their weapons too they have no right to disarm the citizens at least in my opinion.
Exactly. I'll completely disarm when a) all LEO's are disarmed, the state side military is disarmed (they can go off shore to target shoot), politicians and "important people are disarmed, and d) their body guards are disarmed (starting with the secret service).
However, you seem proud of the fact that you're able not to care or something. Perhaps you overestimate the degree to which NTs feel genuine emotions over this sort of thing? I don't really think most of them do - they just express fake emotions because it's socially expected.
In my opinion, Mr. Scarborough did not come to his insights strictly on his own. Behind closed doors, people have been discussing different possibilities. But, this is to be expected and should come as no surprise.
Let me state, something, I'm a strong advocate of freedom of speech BUT you have to understand there are consequences( often-times both positive and negative) THAT come with IT.
Literally speaking, you don't wave a red flag at a bull without knowing THAT there is a chance THAT you can get gored. Unlike other communities, this community frantically waves the proverbial red flag instead of keeping a low profile when certain situations warrant it.
After 9/11 occurred, it would have been foolish for people( especially those who may share characteristics of the terrorists ) to announce to the world THAT they love seeing buildings being blown to smithereens. Such a statement would have brought considerable outrage, hurt feelings beyond measure, and possibly swift retribution from society.
When certain events happen; one has to be careful of what they do, say, and write.
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What good would me feeling bad do?
Would it bring any of the dead back?
Would it lessen the grief of the survivors? Maybe if I knew them and expressed sympathy, the feeling of support may help them, but I'm a total stranger and they don't know I exist, let alone what I feel.
The only benefit I see to me feeling bad (which I don't) and expressing it (which I could do whether I feel it or not; "I feel bad" is easy to type whether or not it's true) would be to make me look like a "better" person.
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Authentic cadence: V-I
Plagal cadence: IV-I
Deceptive cadence: V- ANYTHING BUT I ! !! !
Beethoven cadence: V-I-V-I-V-V-V-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I
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I just saw this, and I agree: people who don't know me shouldn't care about me.
And I don't have any anger over the fact that complete strangers don't care about me. They've never met me; what basis is there for caring?
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Music Theory 101: Cadences.
Authentic cadence: V-I
Plagal cadence: IV-I
Deceptive cadence: V- ANYTHING BUT I ! !! !
Beethoven cadence: V-I-V-I-V-V-V-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I
-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I! I! I! I I I
Indeed. The next time that various people on this thread appear in The Haven, moaning that they can't find a girlfriend, or they don't like their parents or whatever gripe it is that day, I presume that they will understand if I reply with 'Well I don't know you, so I don't really care. Your problem doesn't matter to me at all, and frankly, it's pretty unimportant in the grand scheme of things'.
This!!
Not the same thing at all. It's not like any of us are going up to the father and saying "I don't care about your daughter, STFU and stop whining." That would be a nasty thing to do.
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Authentic cadence: V-I
Plagal cadence: IV-I
Deceptive cadence: V- ANYTHING BUT I ! !! !
Beethoven cadence: V-I-V-I-V-V-V-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I
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I've actually lamented this specific thing in the past. For some reason, some Americans take such commentary very badly. That is to say, I agree with you.
