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So what have you achieved in your adult life?
Age: 18-24, Group: D/U ASD, Outcome: Very Good 5%  5%  [ 9 ]
Age: 18-24, Group: D/U ASD, Outcome: Good 6%  6%  [ 12 ]
Age: 18-24, Group: D/U ASD, Outcome: Fair 13%  13%  [ 24 ]
Age: 18-24, Group: D/U ASD, Outcome: Restricted 8%  8%  [ 14 ]
Age: 25+, Group: D/U ASD, Outcome: Very Good 11%  11%  [ 20 ]
Age: 25+, Group: D/U ASD, Outcome: Good 19%  19%  [ 36 ]
Age: 25+, Group: D/U ASD, Outcome: Fair 15%  15%  [ 28 ]
Age: 25+, Group: D/U ASD, Outcome: Restricted 15%  15%  [ 28 ]
Age: 18-24, Group: NT, Outcome: Very Good 1%  1%  [ 1 ]
Age: 18-24, Group: NT, Outcome: Good 0%  0%  [ 0 ]
Age: 18-24, Group: NT, Outcome: Fair 0%  0%  [ 0 ]
Age: 18-24, Group: NT, Outcome: Restricted 1%  1%  [ 1 ]
Age: 25+, Group: NT, Outcome: Very Good 1%  1%  [ 1 ]
Age: 25+, Group: NT, Outcome: Good 2%  2%  [ 4 ]
Age: 25+, Group: NT, Outcome: Fair 4%  4%  [ 8 ]
Total votes : 186

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27 Dec 2012, 4:58 pm

chssmstrjk wrote:
It looks like this thread is dying down a bit. So I might as well post the remaining summary of the results that haven't already been posted:

In terms of outcomes, based on the polls as of 100 votes from ASD adults, the young adult (18-24 years of age) [N=37] and full adult (25+ years of age) [N=63] groups had similar distributions of Very Good outcome (14% and 14% respectively), Good outcome (24% and 32% respectively), Fair outcome (35% and 29% respectively), and Restricted outcome (27% and 25% respectively). So basically, whether one on the ASD is a young or full adult doesn't make a difference in terms of having a Good outcome or better as defined by the OP. Also, the median outcome of the ASD adult (based on the poll results) would be a Fair outcome and the mean outcome of the ASD adult (based on the poll results) would be a Fair to Good outcome (closer to Fair than Good).

14 (or 53.8%) of the respondents to this thread who reported having had (or currently in) some form of post-high school education had a Good or better outcome whereas none of the respondents with no form of post-high school education had a Good or better outcome. So it seems like having had (or being in) some form of post-high school education increases the likelihood of having a Good outcome or better as defined by the OP.

Out of the 31 respondents in this thread, there were 26 people who reported some form of ASQ score. For those who reported their Aspie Test score (instead of the ASQ score), I converted that score into ASQ score by dividing their Aspie Test score by 4 (since the Aspie Test is based on a total of 200 points and the ASQ is based on a total of 50 points). So after doing all of those conversions, it turned out that 6 (or 60%) of the respondents who reported ASQ scores that were no greater than 36 (since that's the mean ASQ score for the AS/HFA group in the original ASQ study done by Baron-Cohen) had a Good outcome or better. Also, 5 (or 31.25%) of the respondents who reported ASQ scores that were greater than 36 had a Good outcome or better. So it seems like having an ASQ score of no greater than 36 increases the likelihood of one having a Good outcome or better as defined by the OP.


It could also be, at least for those that are either still in school or employed, that they are more likely to have at least 2 friends, because they are regularly associated with people in the work and/or school environment. I'm not sure that being enrolled in college is much more of a positive outcome than being enrolled in high school for those reporting off the charts IQ. That is not necessarily indicative as to whether or not they will gain real employment in the real world, with substantial difficulties in social communication, or even if they will graduate from college.

The fact they are in college, could be more dependent on whether or not their parents can afford to pay for it. That could be more of an indication of a positive outcome for the parents, than the college students, some of whom may or may not be doing well in school, even with "off the chart" IQ's. In other words while graduating from college is an outcome, being enrolled in college is not necessarily indicative of any achievement or outcome of significance, other than being in an environment where the likely hood of having friends may be greater.



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27 Dec 2012, 5:17 pm

18-24, diagnosed ASD, Outcome = Restricted
Still living with my parents, financially dependent, unemployed, no higher education, I have no friends but plenty of old acquaintances.

[1] 125, tested earlier this year
[2] 35
[3] NCEA lvl 3 (NZ secondary school qualification)
[4] NA
[5] NA
[6] Unemployed
[7] Not living independently
[8] Never, but not averse to the idea
[9] Never been in a relationship
[10] Restricted
[11] 18-24
[12] Apparently I have "severe ASD" but I don't even know what that means. Diagnosed age 21, after numerous misdiagnoses.



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27 Dec 2012, 5:51 pm

I'm 34. I chose "Fair" because even though I live on my own and am in school I feel extremely insecure about both of them and am not always convinced they will both last.

[1] 130ish
[2] 36
[3] college, 1 semester of grad school
[4] BA Psychology
[5] graduated college @ age 33
[6] not employed.
[7] 32
[8] I have been but they were not good b/c I didn't understand myself and let people take advantage of me.
[9] 16
[10] Fair
[11] 25+
[12] ASD, diagnosed



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28 Dec 2012, 8:32 am

[1] Never tested
[2] 24
[3] College degree
[4] Economics ("licenciatura" - 4 years of college)
[5] Never failed any year of school
[6] I earn by my degree, but my tasks are bellow that
[7] 31 y.o.
[8] Yes
[9] N/A
[10] Good
[11] +18
[12] Undiagnosed ASD



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29 Dec 2012, 1:59 pm

Alright, here are some more summary statistics based on those who have responded to the questions at the OP of this thread as of the late morning hours of 12/29/2012 (N=33) and what they mean:

2/14 (14.3%) of the ASD young adult group (18-24.9 years old) and 9/19 (47.4%) of the ASD full adult group (25+ years old) were living independently as defined by the OP. Using the appropriate kind of test, it has been shown that these proportions are different from each other in the sense that a higher proportion of ASD full adults were living independently than that of ASD young adults. But that is to be expected considering that people, in general and not limited to those with ASDs, tend to become more financially independent and more capable of caring for themselves as they grow older and the fact that young adults, in general, are usually still in the process of becoming officially independent in terms of finance and self-care.

For those who self-reported that they were living independently (as defined by the OP) (N=11), the mean age of becoming officially independent (as defined by the OP) would be 24.55 years with a standard deviation of 6.15 years. This is not different from a general expectation that sometime in a person's early adult life, one (regardless of whether or not that person has an ASD) would be able to live independently (as defined by the OP) in terms of finance and self-care.

For those who self-reported that they were currently not in a romantic relationship (N=20), a fair proportion (35%) of ASD adults (young + full) have expressed interest in getting into a romantic relationship.

For those who self-reported that they were or had been in a romantic relationship in the past and their age when they first got into such a relationship (N=19), the mean age of first getting into such a relationship would be 18.26 years with a standard deviation of 2.42 years. This is not different from a general expectation that people (includes both people with non-ASDs and people with ASDs) tend to have their first romantic relationship sometime in-between their mid- to late-teens and early twenties.



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29 Dec 2012, 3:31 pm

3-4 friends. None are close, though.
Going to Carnegie Mellon, so successful upper education awaits
1. Officially tested at 3-5 years old, declared null. Somewhere between 125-145 (I'll go with 130)
2. 32 or 35
3. High School Diploma
4. Working on it - Engineering Undeclared (Likely Mechanical)
5. NA
6. NA
7. NA
8. I would love to have a relationship. However, seems impossible to find someone who has a natural spirituality and wonder. The world is beautiful.
9. Never been in a romantic relationship. Used to have more friends, but threw both them and any possible romance out the window for my school's pet projects. Stupid, I know. Ironic how stupid intelligent people can be, no?
10. Outcome Good. Satisfaction with outcome: Negative
11. Age group 18-24
12. Diagnosed Aspergers around 4 or 5 years old.
Blast, this thing started to make me Melancholy. Well, best to laugh it off :lol:


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29 Dec 2012, 4:02 pm

1. 99th percentile (136 WAIS).

2. 31

3. University

4. MSc Biology, Propedeutics Fine Arts, Classical Guitar and Cultural History. Currently studying for BA Cultural History (credited courses) and Physics with Udacity (not credited)

5. 7 years

6. Retired/disabled, but doing volunteer work at the level I'm qualified for.

7. 18, but moved back home after a bad breakdown. Fully employed at 25, home owner at 30.

9. 18

10. Good

11. 25+

12. Undiagnosed



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29 Dec 2012, 4:22 pm

[1] 147 (IQ is a very biased and inaccurate test)
[2] 39
[3] Associate's degree
[4] Associate in Applied Science: Electronics and Computer Technology
[5] achieved at age 26
[6] currently underemployed, but in
[7] n/a
[8] yes
[9] 18
[10] failed miserably
[11] 25+
[12] Undiagnosed ASD, diagnosed ADHD


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29 Dec 2012, 4:40 pm

There are so many high IQs here.



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29 Dec 2012, 5:48 pm

btbnnyr wrote:
There are so many high IQs here.


Yeah, I noticed that also. It really makes you think that WrongPlanet is filled of autistics with high IQs.



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29 Dec 2012, 5:51 pm

FireoftheStorm wrote:
9. Never been in a romantic relationship. Used to have more friends, but threw both them and any possible romance out the window for my school's pet projects. Stupid, I know. Ironic how stupid intelligent people can be, no?


I feel bad for you that your school's pet projects are severely restricting your social life.



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30 Dec 2012, 2:22 am

Excuse me, but what does '/' mean in this sentence: "[C] Having at least 2 friends/steady romantic relationship. "? 'AND' or 'OR'?



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30 Dec 2012, 2:43 am

[1] I stopped telling people years ago. No good can come of it.
[2] 42
[3][4] MA in English
[5] Six years, not counting the two times I switched majors and the four year child-rearing "vacation".
[6] I can't keep a job at all. Mind you, that is "my potential", as far as I can tell.
[7] N/A, I'm a parasite.
[8] [9] First boyfriend at 17.
[10] 3.
[11] 2
[12] 1



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30 Dec 2012, 10:36 am

OJani wrote:
Excuse me, but what does '/' mean in this sentence: "[C] Having at least 2 friends/steady romantic relationship. "? 'AND' or 'OR'?


The / in that sentence means that you would satisfy the criteria [C] if you have at least one of the following: [1] At least 2 friends [2] Steady romantic relationship.



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30 Dec 2012, 11:27 am

chssmstrjk wrote:
OJani wrote:
Excuse me, but what does '/' mean in this sentence: "[C] Having at least 2 friends/steady romantic relationship. "? 'AND' or 'OR'?


The / in that sentence means that you would satisfy the criteria [C] if you have at least one of the following: [1] At least 2 friends [2] Steady romantic relationship.

Thanks. Although I disagree with it, I'll post accordingly.



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30 Dec 2012, 11:54 am

[1] Most recent official IQ score - WAIS IV 127
[2] Most recent Autism Spectrum Quotient Test score - 40
[3] Highest level of education achieved - Master's degree
[4] Degree achieved and in what field (only applies to those who attended community college or above after high school and graduated) - Master of Business Administration / Economist
[5] How long did it take you to achieve your highest degree? - 3 years
[6] If employed, are you employed up to your potential? (i.e. the job you currently have requires the highest degree you hold). - No, but not far off. Master's is not required.
[7] If living independently, at what age did you move out and start living on your own? - At 26.
[8] If you never have been in a romantic relationship, are you interested in getting into one? - n/a
[9] If you have ever been in a romantic relationship, how old were you when you first got into one? - I was 36 years old.
[10] Outcome - Very Good, according to your definition. I disagree. See previous point. Still not in relationship, long term, or otherwise.
[11] Age Group - 25+
[12] Diagnosis Group - PDD-NOS


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