Are Autistic Men More Likely to be Misogynistic?

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Yes exactly, women in general, I can see the reactions of women toward specific types of male bodies (varies between lean muscular to very muscular), it's a myth that women aren't as visual as men. Why do you think young guys take all these unhealthy stuff (growth hormones, loads of proteins, steroids...etc) to make themselves muscular?
Because they are bombarded by the media about the ideal male body and because, in most of the cases, it works in increasing attraction in the eyes of females- sometimes girls get fooled thinking their guys' ideal bodies are all natural.

And you wouldn't know how popular these products are unless you are a guy and can see what other guys are doing in the gym's change rooms, they never reveal what they are taking to their girlfriends, they only talk about it in front of guys.

And on dating sites:


http://blog.okcupid.com/index.php/your- ... ne-dating/

And read "MYTH 3 Guys should keep their shirts on" here:

http://blog.okcupid.com/index.php/the-4 ... -pictures/

Women's general opinion in what they find physically attractive in men isn't that much diversified/subjective as you may think.

Care to elaborate?
I would argue the "evils" are brought about by prohibition, not from bartering sex. Honestly, such fuss over a bodily function...

Because of pimps.

It's not paid sex, per se, that is the real evil.

It's the nature of the industry.

I've never been to a prostitute--though I once took one to the movies!

One day, about 1986, I was lonely. I knew a woman who lived about two houses down from me. I knew she was a prostitute. One day, I asked her to see a movie with me. She agreed. We just saw the movie together. I took her home, like a normal date. I felt a slight impulse to "try something"--but it left me very quickly. She was really a nice person, and I didn't want to be one of her johns.

We were casual friends for a little while afterwards. Nothing "happened" between us.

A misogynist is someone who hates women.

Boo, You've cited some interesting articles in this thread. So what's the story - are you some kind of dating analyst?

I think the situation of autistic men becoming misogynistic out of frustration could be compared to someone getting mad at a computer for not working, when the real problem is that they just don't understand how the computer functions. On the other end of the spectrum though, it is possible that there are very skilled computer programmers who also despise computers, but likely for a different reason not so based on utter frustration.

I've seen that men who are very skilled socially actually commonly have quite disparaging views of women, and treated them accordingly. Picasso being one example that comes to mind. Even someone like Hefner, who is very skilled with women, seems not to hold them in very high regard, since his business is essentially to exploit them.

Do you consider people like bad boys to be misogynists? Because they generally don't think well of women or treat them well, but they tend to be rather successful.

Groucho Marx was a bit of a misogynist too, I think.

With the logic people are using it, it would make a lot since for an autistic person to turn misanthropic rather than misogynic, and I think that's the truth, autistic people are more likely to be misantropic, not misogynic.

So, wait, are you trying to control for autism or gender? You can't do both. The reason why autistic men are more likely to be misogynic than autistic women are to be misandriac is the same for NTs. Since we are asking what difference autism makes, the point is moot.

I know I was was abit misanthropic when I was accused of being a misogynist here afew years ago. I was really frustrated with society in general, not just women but I expressed aLOT of frustration over women rejecting me & not giving me half a chance. Being called a misogynist here by women defiantly made me more frustrated & angry with women & just made things worse. I stopped that & snapped out of it 1ce a girl was interested in me.

So this new found attraction to women only lasted for three months? Is that because you got your
bicycle fixed and sent the Ford Escort back to the hire firm?
This just goes to show how fickle some women can be!

Oh, sure I know that generally women like to look at that guy on the Diet Coca Cola add etc, but what type of girl is interested in a guy so focused on his physical appearance that he will take steroids to look better?
Say for example that I spend approx 14-20 hours each week on my appearance, that's a substantial personal investment of time and money to achieve a certain look. Why would I do this? Well I look around at the beautiful women in the media, and thats what guys seem to desire. Will I be interested in some guy who does not invest in his appearance in a way that reflects my value? Probably not.

"Pornographic magazines and videos directed at men are a multi-billion dollar industry while similar products directed towards women are difficult to find. It is estimated that of the 40 million adults who visit pornography websites annually, 72% are male while only 28% are female"
We are wired differently, our brains react differently to visual sexual stimuli, women are indeed visually stimulated but this is linked to certain phases of our cycles and requires an emotional component also. As a result I don't believe that men are subject to objectification in the same way. This review discusses what is known about human sex differences in response to visual sexual stimuli and possible influences contributing to this sex difference. http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2739403/

Don't worry, pornography popularity among women is increasing after Fifty Shades of Grey. LOL http://www.mirror.co.uk/usvsth3m/women- ... ne-5235506 more movies of these and soon men and women will be equal in porn viewing.

One reason why pornography had been less popular among women is religiosity, in general, women had always been more religious (and apply religious principles and practice religious customs more seriously) than men and this is well documented and proven.




That proves nothing, that's irrelevant, that's your opinion only, but truth is that men's looks are also objectified in media, there are plenty of guys who invest hours in gym and money in supplements to achieve a certain look. why would they do this? Well they look around at the beautiful men in the media, and witness the reactions of the female acquaintances toward them, and they start to believe that's what generally women seem to desire.

You do realize that the people who are capitalizing on body-discomfort, and convincing guys that they need to be super muscular (which is a male fantasy, not a female one) or whatever and USE THESE PRODUCTS are actually other men, yeah? You can blame women all you like, but you're being fed that nonsense by men who want your money and have more power than you.

The thing with body image, is that if you believe the drivel, and buy the product, it can make you more confident. Which does make you more popular with the opposite sex. Also, fun fact, the people you see in magazines are so heavily photoshoped they barely look like the original source. So it's a completely unattainable body-image that keeps us going back for more. Because they want us consumers to be unstable. Sometimes I really hate my industry.

Though...I'm not sure what this has to do with misogyny? Maybe because we're blaming women? I dunno. Art out of context is a ridiculous argument, so is posting up propaganda as fact.

Also, I'm curious why so many men get serial negative rejections. Though, I suppose any rejection is negative? Where I'm from we're taught to only give a soft no so that we don't end up dead, and then to vanish to someplace safe. Because it's our fault if any violence is perpetrated against us. Is it because autistic men can't read a soft no that they end up getting more negative rejections without explanation because they didn't pick up the initial I-don't-really-like-you-but-please-don't-kill-me no?

Ms Horton from the Mirror Tabloid certainly gives that impression

I agree that the maternal line promotes the specific faith etc, and this expectation may have had certain limitations in the past, but mens brains activate in a unique way in response to this visual stimuli; in a manner that makes them reliable consumers of sloppy marketing. The NCBI link I posted explains these differences.

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I once got a very positive, borderline flirty rejection. I was on a cruise, there was Latin music playing in a lounge, and I asked some girl to dance with me. She smiled like I gave her a compliment, touched me on the arm, and said: "No, I'm good. But thanks for asking. I saw you dancing with that tall girl earlier; you were really good." We parted ways right after, but I was utterly wowed! That was the "best" rejection I've gotten in my whole dating life. I didn't ask her again, although I did run into her around the ship next day, when we exchanged a friendly hello.

I've wondered why she was so emotionally warm while turning me down. Did she actually admire how I danced with the other girl? Did she trust me to understand that underneath the smiling and the touching, she was giving me a "no" answer? If so, then I'm very flattered.

This is irrelevant, what's relevant is that women aren't immune to the exposure of media as well, guys wouldn't go for these products if the majority of women weren't showing increasing preference for the toned type of body. No, it's not only a male fantasy.

And btw, the fashion industry is dominated by homosexual men and not straight men.






http://www.newscientist.com/article/dn1 ... POKs_mUcao


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https://www.staff.ncl.ac.uk/m.j.tovee/Male-Malaysia.pdf

My whole point that it's not only women who are victims to this.