Am I on autism spectrum ? You be the judge

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CryosHypnoAeon
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24 May 2015, 2:04 am

Thank you all,

I really learned a lot from your responses.
So, to sum up, I can't join "your group" unless I'm humble, respectful, and take all the insults and juvenile barbs of "you're not like us" and any other criticisms most of you might dream up during your time on the computer whilst mommy isn't watching over you.

Even though most of you are nothing like each other. All the while you all admit you're on a spectrum. Spectrum meaning a diversity of neuro-types.

What seems to be true is that most of you are playing out the same collectivist programming that runs rampant in NTs. The in-group, out-group dynamic. What's worse is it seems most of u don't have the intellectual discipline and removed objective stance to evaluate the case on the facts only, and not get quagmired up in personal pecadillos concerning understandable defensive responses to your quite forward
personal opinions and immature prejudices.

In short, it seems the NT genetic influence is alive and strong in most of u. understandable since probably most of u hail from NT parents.
Most of u, in the sense I just described, don't deserve the luxuries your public label affords you.

Iliketrees, sarcasm, abstract thought coupled with passive-aggressive quips and barbs,
abstract wordplay and innuendos, all atypical
of people with ASD.

Both my parents though undiagnosed, since they come from an era long past, display many marked and classic ASD traits. Leading me to conclude they are both on the ASD spectrum.

One is a jewish european and the other is a romanian gypsy. ASD traits no doubt helped their lineages survive the hegemonic powers in europe. And escape the assymetrical warfare the establishmentarians meted out to them through out the untold centuries.

My kind defended your precious hegemonies from the islamic hords, there is much documentation on this. Jews and Romanians were the frontline defense against these inscrutable (to most lower iq run-of-the-mill europeans) foreigners. Jews were always multi-lingual intermediaries when dealing with foreign and threatening islamic powers, through many centuries. And the Romanians (influenced greatly through culture by the original Romans, turned Christians later in their development) were fearless soldiers (of Christ no less) defending the integrity and honor of Europe.

You'd all be pointing your asses towards the sky 5 times daily praising Allah if it weren't for
my ancestors.

Critical thinking autistic people (high-functioning) saved all of you ingratious , incestuous, hegemonic, latte-sipping thumb-twiddlers from extinction.

So I'd rather you just say "thank you", and be on your merry way.

(paraphrase from "A Few Good Men")
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Peace out



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24 May 2015, 2:54 am

Group? I wasn't aware I was part of one.
I am not friends with, nor do I regularly communicate with, any other member here.
I've probably made more posts directed at you than anyone else.

I believe the insults started because of your rather flippant responses to people who were genuinely trying to be helpful.

By the way, do you not realise the irony in that you called others juvenile, yet you have, at this point, "devolved" to baseless and rather immature insults?

And no one's asking you to be humble, but you seem to be off the charts on the narcissism scale. Might want to tone it down just a wee bit.
There's an old saying that no one likes a braggart.



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24 May 2015, 3:20 am

There's an old saying "sqweaky wheel gets the oil".

No one telling me to be humble ?
Ha ! !
Perhaps you should go re-read the replies.
Plus you telling me, quite categorically to "tone it down".

This is so blatantly obvious, lol, I'm slack-jawed at your own blindness. Sentence to sentence contradictory hypocrisy.

I mean really ? Are you just tired and it's too late at night for you to think cogently ?

I really do wonder sometimes in the minds of people like you when you gambit yourselves in such fashion.

I might as well chuck my brain out the window because it won't make a difference when counterceding you, and your ilk.



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24 May 2015, 3:42 am

CryosHypnoAeon wrote:
There's an old saying "sqweaky wheel gets the oil".

No one telling me to be humble ?
Ha ! !
Perhaps you should go re-read the replies.
Plus you telling me, quite categorically to "tone it down".

This is so blatantly obvious, lol, I'm slack-jawed at your own blindness. Sentence to sentence contradictory hypocrisy.

I mean really ? Are you just tired and it's too late at night for you to think cogently ?

I really do wonder sometimes in the minds of people like you when you gambit yourselves in such fashion.

I might as well chuck my brain out the window because it won't make a difference when counterceding you, and your ilk.


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24 May 2015, 3:47 am

I was smart enough to find an easy job that makes use of my autistic talents--I actually have a boss that reminds me to dial it back a notch and let my co-workers do more of their share :-)

May you find similar success!



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24 May 2015, 4:46 am

CryosHypnoAeon wrote:
Iliketrees, sarcasm, abstract thought coupled with passive-aggressive quips and barbs,
abstract wordplay and innuendos, all atypical
of people with ASD.

If you're reading what I said as sarcasm you are wrong. I was not sarcastic. Try reading it literally rather than look for hidden meanings, because that's what it was intended to read as. But clearly your NT-ness is telling you to look for hidden meanings that do not exist. There is no sarcasm, there is no passive-agression, there is no wordplay or innuendos. Read what I said again without trying to look for things that do not exist in it.



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24 May 2015, 7:31 am

btbnnyr wrote:
About the toilet paper discussion earlier, I would buy the toilet paper that I normally buy at walmart.
The Scott's unquilted plain toilet paper is my favorite.



I would buy the one from Lidl, the big 10-pack one.
It's 3-ply and just the right thickness and softness.
Does you have Lidl in the USA?
Used to think myself silly for insisting on a particular toilet paper so I bought another brand once and after using 2 of the 4 rolls I gave up. Wrong feel, wrong thickness and it made wiping a stressfull experience.

Back as you were :mrgreen:



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24 May 2015, 8:00 am

CryosHypnoAeon wrote:
Thank you all,

I really learned a lot from your responses.
So, to sum up, I can't join "your group" unless I'm humble, respectful, and take all the insults and juvenile barbs of "you're not like us" and any other criticisms most of you might dream up during your time on the computer whilst mommy isn't watching over you.

Even though most of you are nothing like each other. All the while you all admit you're on a spectrum. Spectrum meaning a diversity of neuro-types.

What seems to be true is that most of you are playing out the same collectivist programming that runs rampant in NTs. The in-group, out-group dynamic. What's worse is it seems most of u don't have the intellectual discipline and removed objective stance to evaluate the case on the facts only, and not get quagmired up in personal pecadillos concerning understandable defensive responses to your quite forward
personal opinions and immature prejudices.

In short, it seems the NT genetic influence is alive and strong in most of u. understandable since probably most of u hail from NT parents.
Most of u, in the sense I just described, don't deserve the luxuries your public label affords you.

Iliketrees, sarcasm, abstract thought coupled with passive-aggressive quips and barbs,
abstract wordplay and innuendos, all atypical
of people with ASD.

Both my parents though undiagnosed, since they come from an era long past, display many marked and classic ASD traits. Leading me to conclude they are both on the ASD spectrum.

One is a jewish european and the other is a romanian gypsy. ASD traits no doubt helped their lineages survive the hegemonic powers in europe. And escape the assymetrical warfare the establishmentarians meted out to them through out the untold centuries.

My kind defended your precious hegemonies from the islamic hords, there is much documentation on this. Jews and Romanians were the frontline defense against these inscrutable (to most lower iq run-of-the-mill europeans) foreigners. Jews were always multi-lingual intermediaries when dealing with foreign and threatening islamic powers, through many centuries. And the Romanians (influenced greatly through culture by the original Romans, turned Christians later in their development) were fearless soldiers (of Christ no less) defending the integrity and honor of Europe.

You'd all be pointing your asses towards the sky 5 times daily praising Allah if it weren't for
my ancestors.

Critical thinking autistic people (high-functioning) saved all of you ingratious , incestuous, hegemonic, latte-sipping thumb-twiddlers from extinction.

So I'd rather you just say "thank you", and be on your merry way.

(paraphrase from "A Few Good Men")
8)

Peace out

[sarcasm]
I apologize, I now realize you are truly an enlightened being because of your superior genetics/intellect/and most likely physical form as well. Let me kneel and worship you oh mighty internet forum god. I shall make a sacrifice of my first born in honor of your greatness, in hopes that one day I can bask in said greatness. All members of this board are nothing compared to you oh great one, thank you for enlightening us all in just 27 short posts. Your word has been spread and we will carry out your will so you can now visit other forums and spread your greatness there.
[/sarcasm]

On a side-note, does anyone know of forums that deal with narcissism for our demi-god here? I imagine they don't last all that long...



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24 May 2015, 9:19 am

Aristophanes wrote:
On a side-note, does anyone know of forums that deal with narcissism for our demi-god here? I imagine they don't last all that long...


I'd imagine they last longer than the ASPD ones, but both are likely full of arguments.



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24 May 2015, 10:28 am

Oh for f**k's sake. Is this for real? For anyone visiting this thread, make sure you thoroughly read the first page, second page, etc. so that you get a clue why we're lacking in friendliness towards this guy.

Jeezuz...

starkid wrote:
CryosHypnoAeon wrote:
please help me out on this, I'd really like to know.
I don't have money for a doctor right now,
so we'll have to do our best using circumstantial evidence.
there are a lot of facts about me that make me suspect that I may be on the spectrum somewhere, either Aspergers, PDD, or some type of schizoid condition ( which I am not too fond of, but I need to consider everything).


"Schizoid conditions" are not generally considered to be on the spectrum, assuming you mean the autism spectrum.

If you really want to know if you are on the spectrum, I think the best you can do is to confer with people who know you (as a child, if you can), and compare their perceptions and your self perceptions to the diagnostic criteria, as well as the diagnostic criteria for schizoid PD (to rule it out). Further, you could compare that personal information to the descriptions in professional literature about autism.

The key component is knowing how you truly are most of the time and why; that is the information we are lacking (your post notwithstanding) and to which only you and your associates have access.


To which OP replied:

CryosHypnoAeon wrote:
Starkid,

that's was very cold, pedantic, aloof, and not very helpful.
you almost sound like the last the doctor I visited,
who was a cold and calculating type, not in touch with the real world.
I've been around intellectuals all my life, and in the academic world too.
what you said to me sounds very similar to what they say 2 people when they don't understand something. they intellectualize it, repackage it, and stated the obvious back to you in a sterile and pedantic form. almost always bereft of real information or input.


Oh yes, and also adds later on
CryosHypnoAeon wrote:

Maybe I am just an introvert misanthrope, with a knack for debate.

And apparently 100 times smarter than most aspies, autists , and schizos on here.


And continues to pass condescending judgments and insults on us because we defended ourselves when he was rude, and also speaks about himself with a "high and mighty my ancestors make me superior" attitude.

CryosHypnoAeon wrote:
Most you guys have a lot of hate and respect-demanding for people on the ASD.
Demanding people to be "humble" in the face aggressive hateration is just a form of demanding respect just for the sake of demanding it. Similarto the deeply disturbed Emperor of Ancient Rome, Caligula, playing games with peoples lives, making his elite guards murder random people in the streets, kidnapping families and having them raped in front of each other for amusement, and demanding deference and humility in return.

I noticed many of you are quite young. Perhaps that's why many of you go for the jugular on the outset. Young & dumb never is an asset.

Is there a 35yo and above forum here on WP ?
Perhaps I'll reach more settled and rational people there.


CryosHypnoAeon wrote:

I know I'm not misguided or crazy. I know myself and I know how to do research online. Some of these repliers purposely (and mostly subconsciously because of their young age, I guess; that or they were born without the sympathy gene, an NT trait to be sure) disregard and deny many of my most obvious ASD symptoms, then proceed with the "you're not in our club" agenda. Really disheartening and sad to see. Maybe thats what they want, they're so angry at life they feel the need to cut someone down and deny them. It's safer for them to see me as an NT, otherwise their world doesn't make sense.


CryosHypnoAeon wrote:
Thank you all,

I really learned a lot from your responses.
So, to sum up, I can't join "your group" unless I'm humble, respectful, and take all the insults and juvenile barbs of "you're not like us" and any other criticisms most of you might dream up during your time on the computer whilst mommy isn't watching over you.

Even though most of you are nothing like each other. All the while you all admit you're on a spectrum. Spectrum meaning a diversity of neuro-types.

What seems to be true is that most of you are playing out the same collectivist programming that runs rampant in NTs. The in-group, out-group dynamic. What's worse is it seems most of u don't have the intellectual discipline and removed objective stance to evaluate the case on the facts only, and not get quagmired up in personal pecadillos concerning understandable defensive responses to your quite forward
personal opinions and immature prejudices.

In short, it seems the NT genetic influence is alive and strong in most of u. understandable since probably most of u hail from NT parents.
Most of u, in the sense I just described, don't deserve the luxuries your public label affords you.

Iliketrees, sarcasm, abstract thought coupled with passive-aggressive quips and barbs,
abstract wordplay and innuendos, all atypical
of people with ASD.

Both my parents though undiagnosed, since they come from an era long past, display many marked and classic ASD traits. Leading me to conclude they are both on the ASD spectrum.

One is a jewish european and the other is a romanian gypsy. ASD traits no doubt helped their lineages survive the hegemonic powers in europe. And escape the assymetrical warfare the establishmentarians meted out to them through out the untold centuries.

My kind defended your precious hegemonies from the islamic hords, there is much documentation on this. Jews and Romanians were the frontline defense against these inscrutable (to most lower iq run-of-the-mill europeans) foreigners. Jews were always multi-lingual intermediaries when dealing with foreign and threatening islamic powers, through many centuries. And the Romanians (influenced greatly through culture by the original Romans, turned Christians later in their development) were fearless soldiers (of Christ no less) defending the integrity and honor of Europe.

You'd all be pointing your asses towards the sky 5 times daily praising Allah if it weren't for
my ancestors.

Critical thinking autistic people (high-functioning) saved all of you ingratious , incestuous, hegemonic, latte-sipping thumb-twiddlers from extinction.

So I'd rather you just say "thank you", and be on your merry way.

(paraphrase from "A Few Good Men")
8)

Peace out


Conceitedness, much?



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24 May 2015, 10:53 am

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CryosHypnoAeon wrote:
For the record,
ASPartOfMe was the best, most objective, and to-the-point reply of the whole thread.

Bravo !

Exactly what I was looking for.
I think it's no coicidence he's (or she maybe) is 52 years of age.

Is it too much to expect most of the replied to be like ASPartOfMe's ?
Apparently so.


Thank you. I am a 57 year old male. There are many varied ages ages here including 50 and 60+ and their are very knowledgeable people of all ages. Starkid's immediate reply was good also.

The different ages seem often to bring different prospective not based on lack of knowledge but differing perspectives based on differing experiences. Us oldsters grew up at a time when only the most severe autism was recognized and thus many of us did not find out we were Autistic until middle age so the process of discovery and recognition of OMG I fit these traits is instantly recognizable and important to us. Many in the younger age groups were diagnosed at early age and grew up with Autism all over the media with TV characters with Autistic traits, celebrities declaring they are Autistic and so on. Some have described experiences of people they know thinking they are are autistic and suddenly presenting exaggerated traits. Thus there is suspicion of fakery and overdiagionis and trendiness hurting people who are actually autistic. These suspicions seem baffling and bizarre to a me as a person who for decades believed my struggles the result of flawed character if I knew why they were happening at all.

I have noticed that that nearly every thread goes off topic in some manner and many times is completely irreverent to the original post. It was quite disconcerting to me at first but I have figured out it must be an autistic thing perhaps related to executive dysfunction but I am not sure.




I think the "symptoms" the OP listed were in the gray because those could be personality traits or part of another condition which is why I said it was hard to tell. Yeah they could be part of autism but like I say it was too hard to tell and I am not going to easily say someone has it.

About every forum I have gone to, things have always gone off topic. I go to on board where the mods just want things to stay on topic to they delete posts that lead off topic, especially if a drama starts. The same thing happens in real life too, people are on a topic and then they go off it and then they are no longer talking about horses and now they are talking about living out in the country, same thing happens online.


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24 May 2015, 10:56 am

CryosHypnoAeon wrote:
Thank you all,

I really learned a lot from your responses.
So, to sum up, I can't join "your group" unless I'm humble, respectful, and take all the insults and juvenile barbs of "you're not like us" and any other criticisms most of you might dream up during your time on the computer whilst mommy isn't watching over you.

IMO - Being humble and respectful is an appropriate way for an Aspie (who has deficits in social communication) to interact with others. When I was younger, I discovered that the Golden Rule was an easy-to-remember ethical code that applies in almost all situations.

OP – If you are in need of support, I would recommend you do a fresh restart. As your posts are a bit antagonistic, at least within this community. As a result, others may associate that with your username/profile. Simply reregister with a new identity and re-post. And remember my suggestion about the Golden Rule. If someone says something that bothers you, just ignore it. Or respond respectfully. As this is how you become the bigger person (and avoid getting involved in these “juvenile barbs”).

However, I am not confident that you are in need of support. As some of your posts suggest that you are simply here to rile the community. I have seen others like that here (who come for a short period of time, antagonize the community and leave). I believe the Internet refers to those as trolls.

In any event, please don’t be one of those. If you need support, reregister. There are numerous people in this community who offer very sage advice.



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24 May 2015, 11:00 am

Back to toilet paper...

I mentioned earlier that I hate making decisions. Which is why I love Costco. If I want a particular product, I don’t have to stress about which brand to buy. So, for toilet paper, I just purchase the Kirkland brand. It removes almost all of the anxiety from shopping. Well, other than, the crowds. LOL



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24 May 2015, 11:30 am

CryosHypnoAeon wrote:
No one telling me to be humble ?
Ha ! !
Perhaps you should go re-read the replies.
Plus you telling me, quite categorically to "tone it down".

I mean really ? Are you just tired and it's too late at night for you to think cogently ?

Yeah, I'll admit I was way too tired when I wrote that.
It's not what I meant to say.

I have been known to make mistakes on occasion.

Figures you'd wait for me to mess up and then focus on one little mistake and not anything else I said.



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24 May 2015, 12:14 pm

Rarely, someone posts a thread in which they describe their traits, and I think they are clearly autistic based on their descriptions. In almost all cases, the descriptions don't make me think that the person is autistic, or some of them make me think that the person is not autistic based on some things they said, e.g. they can read people well in real-time, e.g. they were normal as children but became socially withdrawn in adolescence. In this thread, I found the OP's list unspecific for autism, as the items could be within normal variation, personality traits like introversion or being sensitive, or signs of other mental disorders like depression or anxiety.


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24 May 2015, 12:31 pm

I have homemade reusable toilet paper. I bought two yards of fleece from the fabric department and cut them up into squares. Very soft and comfortable and cheap, but not so absorbent. For absorbency, I use rags I bought from an automotive supply store. I haven't bought toilet paper in nearly six months.