I just got the "you can't possibly have autism" line

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Yigeren
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10 Mar 2016, 2:57 pm

I appreciated that people took the time to compliment me. I felt that most of the compliments were probably more or less genuine, and it gave me some insight into how I appear to others online. I did also appreciate that others seemed to be offering emotional support.

As for the insults, they were very amusing, and many made me laugh.

I would have liked to have some genuine insults (insults isn't really the correct word, I suppose, more like "criticisms"), but I don't think I received any. Mostly I think real criticisms would have been useful, because there are many aspects of myself that I'm not fully aware of, and it would be interesting to see how others perceive me.

There's no real way to get a truly objective viewpoint, however, because we are all involved to some extent, and have biases, regardless of whether or not we have participated in any discussions with another person.



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10 Mar 2016, 3:28 pm

I think if you actually got what people really thought of you, it would hurt a lot.

I don't take false accusations well or any false negativity because then it makes me feel bad about myself like how bad my social skills are and how I can't do anything right that won't make me come off as wrong and how I can't figure things out right without making mistakes that would make me look bad. What I have noticed is when people don't like someone, they tend to be more critical of that person and see an agenda in everything they do. But when you do like someone or don't know them, you won't think anything bad of them and jump to bad conclusions of them and not assume they have some sort of agenda. I wonder why this is? This has also happened with people on the autism spectrum too so I know this is a human thing. That one member here didn't take it well when she asked what is it about her that pisses people off and she didn't like the answers. She couldn't handle the truth. All we did was told her the things she says, we didn't accuse her of anything like we didn't say she provokes members or say she is a troll or say she likes to bully people, etc. so it's not like we all disliked her or else the responses would have been worse. I didn't tell her she was mean or selfish or self centered even though she has come off that way to me and first of all using those terms wouldn't help because they are too abstract. They don't really tell you what you are doing wrong so you need specific behaviors pointed out to you that rub people the wrong way and why, not labels.

I also think when a person doesn't like someone, they see things in their posts that are not there or see things in their behavior in real life that are not there so it's like they are being paranoid about the other person. Especially if they are holding some grudge on them or have something against them. I have considered this as a possibility for me, not that I am actually doing anything wrong so if I have gotten that same accusation from another person instead of just one, then it's time I rethink of my behavior and perhaps it just means if I do X, people will think Y even if they are wrong about me with their conclusion. Like I have OCD so when something really upsets me, I keep on talking about it. I found out that comes off as me being a bully and doing witch hunts and being an attention whore and playing a game and then after a while people just stop giving a damn and not say anything to me about whatever is upsetting me because I went on and on about it for too long. So if you have OCD and feel the need to talk about it over and over because you can't move on due to no amends and no apologies and that person will never change their mind about you and realize they are wrong about you, I guess bottle it up or do a private journal or do it in a blog or go seek counseling. They are paid to listen to it and are trained to handle it and it could be because they are the types of people who can which is why they have that career. If it's over something online, you're screwed. It's bottle it up and keep it all inside or open a blog and post it all there instead of putting it on forums which is one of the reasons why I started my blog I have in my signature.

Maybe there are people who can actually handle being told what someone really thinks of them without getting all but hurt and falling into victim mode and going all OCD about it because they can't handle false accusations and people being wrong about them and they can't handle bad misunderstandings and they don't get all paranoid thinking how bad their social skills are and how bad their autism must be if this is how someone feels about them so they have even more anxiety for social situations and afraid to even participate and say things and all because they are so afraid. This is what happens to me when I find out what someone really thinks of me which is the reason why I don't post many threads anymore or participate as much. It like destroys me as a person so I go into my little shell and am even more asocial and more withdrawn.


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10 Mar 2016, 7:10 pm

@ League_Girl

I think I'd take it pretty well if I knew what people online really thought of me. I don't have a huge emotional connection to most of the people on WP, as I do with my family.

The criticisms would be regarding what I have said, the way I have said it, my opinions, etc. I'm usually analytical and fairly logical in the way that I think. So I would analyze the comments, decide based upon the evidence whether they should be taken into serious consideration, and make changes to my behavior if necessary.

I would possibly get angry or hurt if I felt the criticisms were unfair or inaccurate. I would definitely be angry if the criticisms were unnecessarily hostile, and possibly if they were also very illogical. Sometimes other people's ignorance and stupidity will make me angry.

I have learned over time, however, that some people are just @ssholes, and that I shouldn't take every negative opinion of me personally. Otherwise, I'd be constantly upset.

I'm sorry that you let the things that others say affect you so much. It can be hard to determine when a criticism is accurate or just someone's biased opinion. I usually think about things a lot and try to come up with the most likely possibility. But the truth is, a lot of people seem to use the internet as an excuse to behave like jerks. And sometimes things just come out wrong, and they aren't really being jerks at all.



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10 Mar 2016, 9:26 pm

The best thing to do with internet attacks is not merely ignore them, but be amused by them.

It drives those h8rz nuts. It's as if you said, "I'm rubber and you're glue. Whatever you say bounces off me, and sticks to you."


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10 Mar 2016, 11:15 pm

btbnnyr wrote:
An example of social emotional support would be like someone posts something about a situation in which they feel they were wronged, then others give them support by telling them they are right, and the people who are wronged them are wrong. But I don't do this, because I don't know who is more right or wrong based on one person's one-sided report. I would have to know the other side's view from the other side before I can decide which side is more reasonable, and who I would support, if I support any side.

Thanks for the example.

So, my wife often times will describe a situation (where possibly she is simply looking for emotional support). Generally, I go into problem solving mode and try to provide advice how to "fix" the situation. She would then reply, "I don't want you to fix my problem, I just want you to listen".

I have been told, before, that this isn't an Aspie thing. Rather, it's fairly common upon males. That could be true. Or maybe it's not. I have no idea.



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10 Mar 2016, 11:17 pm

zkydz wrote:
i actually have the same question. I have no idea how I am perceived at all.

I occasionally wonder about this (whether I "come off" as Aspie - or not) as well. Probably, because, most of the time, I don't feel that different. After all, I eat, I breath, I go to the bathroom, I watch TV, I use the computer, etc.



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