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Bixbeiderbecke
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26 Apr 2007, 10:30 am

I'd say I'm a lapsed deist. I'd also say Im full of s**t. I dont like atheists usually. Agnostics are cool. Usually though, atheists seem to be loudmouths who just want to bring everybody down, although the same could be said for some fundamnetalists.

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26 Apr 2007, 10:35 am

0_equals_true wrote:

eDad wrote:

0_equals_true wrote:

Ragtime wrote:

Laser wrote:

I'm an atheist and proud of it.

I'm a Christian, and humble of it.

I cherished diversities. I think it's great that we have people from many different religious and cultural backgrounds.

I was responding to how he addressed himself. Holier than though. Well that is what it seemed like anyway.

I kinda got that feeling aswell… to be humble he seemed rather proud. Religious people never seize to amaze me on just how full of themselves they are. Of course, there are exceptions, but unfortunately, they're rare.

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26 Apr 2007, 10:44 am

Madeleine wrote:

So can he create a stone that is heavier than he can lift?

No, but Chuck Norris can. And then he'd lift it anyway, because he's Chuck Norris

Actually, on that note, I've just decided my new religion: Norrisism. The services will consist of a series of roundhouse kicks every seven days. Any dissenters will be swiftly roundhouse-kicked into oblivion

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26 Apr 2007, 10:51 am

Bixbeiderbecke wrote:

I'd say I'm a lapsed deist. I'd also say Im full of sh**. I dont like atheists usually. Agnostics are cool. Usually though, atheists seem to be loudmouths who just want to bring everybody down, although the same could be said for some fundamnetalists.

Atheists can be a bit arrogant about this subject, yeah. Personally, I think we're somewhat justified.

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26 Apr 2007, 10:57 am

MrSinister wrote:

Madeleine wrote:

So can he create a stone that is heavier than he can lift?

No, but Chuck Norris can. And then he'd lift it anyway, because he's Chuck Norris

Young Chuck Noris used his hands and his feet,
and he kicked and he punched with his hands and his feet!
Whoa, whoa, whoa!

I miss Walker! I can still sing that entire theme song

In the eyes of the Ranger, the unsuspecting stranger, had better know the truth of wrong from right...

'Cause the eyes of the Ranger are upon you! Any wrong ya do he's gonna see!
When ya are in Texas look behind you...

'Cause that's...where the ranger's...gonna be.

Sorry! Totally off topic, but I'll be singing that to myself all day now.

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26 Apr 2007, 11:25 am

I'm Christian and proud of it.

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26 Apr 2007, 12:56 pm

I don't like being told what to do or anything :roll: religion isn't a good thing to me and never has been

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26 Apr 2007, 12:56 pm

I'm currently an atheist. And yes one can sometimes see the wind. What do you think a tornado is? When it comes down it's in the shape of a funnel cloud which you can see, and stay out of the way of.

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26 Apr 2007, 1:08 pm

Touretter wrote:

I'm currently an atheist. And yes one can sometimes see the wind. What do you think a tornado is? When it comes down it's in the shape of a funnel cloud which you can see, and stay out of the way of.

Well, you're actually seeing moisture and debris. If one were to touch down on a tarmac, there's a possibility that you wouldn't see it. Back earlier in the year, when a lot of tornados came through the area, I hit several minor wind funnels while driving down the road, only indicated by a small swirl of leaves less than two feet off the ground. Nonetheless, they were enough to cause me to swerve slightly and cause an eery "swoosh" as I went through. You can't see the wind because wind is nothing more than the movement of air. Air, however, you can detect through other senses, such as the coolness, warmness, or dryness of it or, really, by barometric pressure if you happen to be sensitive to it.

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26 Apr 2007, 1:46 pm

i think jesus was god. however i do not think he was christian

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26 Apr 2007, 1:50 pm

richardbenson wrote:

i think jesus was god. however i do not think he was christian

Well, no, he wasn't - Jesus was Jewish.

Hence the Nazis' desire to prove that Jesus, despite being born of a Jewish mother, was in fact Aryan :roll:

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26 Apr 2007, 1:54 pm

i know jesus was jewish. im just saying he was not christian, and thus i think he is god. i hope resepct my beliefs of un-christianity

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26 Apr 2007, 1:56 pm

0_equals_true wrote:

eDad wrote:

0_equals_true wrote:

Ragtime wrote:

Laser wrote:

I'm an atheist and proud of it.

I'm a Christian, and humble of it.

I cherished diversities. I think it's great that we have people from many different religious and cultural backgrounds.

I was responding to how he addressed himself. Holier than though. Well that is what it seemed like anyway.

I don't think so. I took it to mean that he wasn't going to shove his beliefs in someone else's face and/or show it off constantly.

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26 Apr 2007, 3:28 pm

Madeleine wrote:

I would like to put in a question:

If you take the existence of God as an absolute truth. Then God can do and create anything, right?

So can he create a stone that is heavier than he can lift?

If he can then he can't lift it and if he can't well then he can' create everything.

Come ON, I can't be the only person in the world who understands the idiocy of the "can god microwave a burrito SO hot' questions. These.. pretend 'paradoxes.'

It's nothing more than a statement combining two questions into one that don't logically fit together in the context of a being without limits, in order to make the answer NEED to have the word 'can't in it regardless, so that it can seem like it doesn't make sense.

If he CAN'T create a stone heavier than he can lift, that doesn't make him not omnipotent. Just because the word CAN'T is in the sentence doesn't mean he has any sort of limit. Think about it. God CAN'T be not able to do X. That's what it's saying.

But I have a feeling nobody's going to understand the subtleties of this concept, so I'll explain it this way:
The question SHOULD have been phrased like this, in two parts:

Can god create a boulder of any mass he wants? Yes.
Can god lift a boulder of any mass? Yes.

It'd be like if I said to you:

Me: Can you microwave a burrito SO hot, that even you can't look at it?
You: Uh.. no...
Me: Well I guess you can't microwave a very hot burrito then.

Anyone intrigued and perplexed by these god boulder idiot sayings are simple minded.

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26 Apr 2007, 5:19 pm

I am absolutely not religious. Nor am I an athiest.

I believe in God but organized religion.

I have no desire whatsoever to get caught up in that ladder-climbing religios power play that is organized religion.

I'm not religious. I'm not "spititual" (whatever that's supposed to mean).

I believe in God. That's the entire gamut of my beliefs.

My belief is that I don't have any beliefs.

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26 Apr 2007, 6:15 pm

richardbenson wrote:

i know jesus was jewish. im just saying he was not christian, and thus i think he is god. i hope resepct my beliefs of un-christianity

Sure

markaudette wrote:

I am absolutely not religious. Nor am I an athiest.

I believe in God but organized religion.

No crime in that. Organised religion isn't for everybody, after all.

That being said... I have collected several texts from several different sources on this subject (I have a Bible, a Mormon Bible, some Hindu writings and some Jehovah's Witness literature), as I think it's good to at least sample these things.

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