Can we drop the D?
Dropping the D makes it "AS" which is already used to mean "aspergers syndrome".
You could change it to "autism spectrum condition" -rendering the acronym "ASC".
And ASC would be perfectly serviceble shorthand for it in colloguial speech.
I do admit that "condition" is a tiny bit softer than "disorder". "Disorder" makes it sound like a more chaotic thing than it is.
But yes- "disorder" is also a synonym for "condition". I dunno.
But if you make it offical then there is the practical issue in the US. If its not called a "disorder" then you dont get insurance money, or get the hiring preferences the govt. mandates for the handicapped, etc.
So you would have to alter the whole US legal system just to change the term. A huge undertaking just to get a minutely less bad name for your condition/disorder.
Not worth it iMHO.
Playboy magazine sent author Alex Haley (this was before the African American author got fame for writing Roots, but after he helped write the "Autobiography of Malcolm X") to interview the head of the American Nazi Party-the latter told Haley"we call your kind N-word". Haley replied "ive been called that before, but this time I am being paid good money to be called N-word. So go ahead. Lets get on with the interview".
Unofficially (like posting here on WP) I might go along with using "ASC" instead of "ASD". But in the official world I dont mind being called a N-word if I get paid, and get hiring preferences for it.
Why drop the D? It’s very useful for reminding everyone we’re defective humans, not suitable for being treated like real, functional adults at any rate, but only talked down to and having anything we say dismissed as not worth a real person’s time because of its so obviously unintelligent source. It serves the undeniably important purpose of highlighting that we shouldn’t have ambitions of any kind of success in life, since it’s plain as day we can’t make use of any opportunity and therefore it’s best if we have none at all. It’s also a reminder that our experiences, thoughts and feelings don’t matter, coming as they do from a diseased mind.
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He's not genius enough to figure out what humility means.
He is a motivational speaker so bragging is in the job desctiption.
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Again, I meant no offense; if I said or did something rude, I strongly apologize.
I did read all of the posts in this thread, but my comprehension is not very quick or very comprehensive. If there is meaning "behind the words" or "between the lines", I usually miss it. That is why I asked for more information on your thought processes and reasoning in coming up with your opinion. I was only trying to increase my own understanding on this issue; I am not trying to start any arguments. I am sorry if you felt unheard or put out.
Why are the negative connotations of the word "disorder" inappropriate? They are referring to autism, not the person; they are implying that autism is negative, not that the person is to be ashamed.
To me, autism is negative. My sensory sensitivities, perseveration, and inflexibility, are still a problem even if I am alone, living on my own terms. My communication and social skills are extremely limited, and my ability to learn or utilize them the way I want to is consistently blocked by my autistic disorder, regardless of someone else's rules or expectations.
I believe this is where we differ in our opinion. In my understanding, the definition of disorder and the implication of having one imply none of that, spiderpig:
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If we are going to keep the "D" we should get rid of "disorder" and go back a half century before political correctness and tell it like it is "Autism Spectrum Defectives".
Me and Spiderpig are using sarcasm, something we are not supposed to be able to understand.
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He's not genius enough to figure out what humility means.
He is a motivational speaker so bragging is in the job desctiption.
I'm sure this guy is a nice fellow, but genius...? I'm no so sure. There was nothing on this video to indicate any advanced intelligence and there was certainly nothing motivational about it unless the viewer is supposed to get excited about his quiz taking and tolerance for those of "lesser intelligence."
But this doesn't have anything to do with disability anyway. Someone could have a genius score in a particular subject, but be helpless in other regards. I guess it comes down to what you have to offer to society balanced against what you take from it.

I did read all of the posts in this thread, but my comprehension is not very quick or very comprehensive. If there is meaning "behind the words" or "between the lines", I usually miss it. That is why I asked for more information on your thought processes and reasoning in coming up with your opinion. I was only trying to increase my own understanding on this issue; I am not trying to start any arguments. I am sorry if you felt unheard or put out.
Why are the negative connotations of the word "disorder" inappropriate? They are referring to autism, not the person; they are implying that autism is negative, not that the person is to be ashamed.
To me, autism is negative. My sensory sensitivities, perseveration, and inflexibility, are still a problem even if I am alone, living on my own terms. My communication and social skills are extremely limited, and my ability to learn or utilize them the way I want to is consistently blocked by my autistic disorder, regardless of someone else's rules or expectations.
I believe this is where we differ in our opinion. In my understanding, the definition of disorder and the implication of having one imply none of that, spiderpig:
Why are you quoting Spiderpig?
I dont think that he was addressing you specifically.
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They seem to use it in a confusing interchangeable way.
Language Majors help me out here... isn't it weird that an acronym (ASD) can mean singular or plural?
I have only seen it used singular. You can have *AN* ASD. Or you can have "one of the ASD's".
But even if you use to mean plural its not any more "weird" than the fact that folks on WP us "OP" to mean either "original post", or "original poster".
Spiderpig just brought up something (and worded it pretty nicely) that I wanted to address.
I hope that it was ok with you, Spiderpig, that I quoted you and I hope I did it correctly; now that someone mentioned sarcasm, I am worried that I may have read it wrong.
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He's not genius enough to figure out what humility means.
He is a motivational speaker so bragging is in the job desctiption.
I'm sure this guy is a nice fellow, but genius...? I'm no so sure. There was nothing on this video to indicate any advanced intelligence and there was certainly nothing motivational about it unless the viewer is supposed to get excited about his quiz taking and tolerance for those of "lesser intelligence."
But this doesn't have anything to do with disability anyway. Someone could have a genius score in a particular subject, but be helpless in other regards. I guess it comes down to what you have to offer to society balanced against what you take from it.
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Rigid thinking, literal mindedness, and repetitive behavior is the opposite of genius.
Somebody forgot to tell Jeffrey Ford the 2016 genius of the year.
Yes I know most autistics are not genius but it is not incompatable.
Is this related to the subject of this thread in some distant way?
I hope that it was ok with you, Spiderpig, that I quoted you and I hope I did it correctly; now that someone mentioned sarcasm, I am worried that I may have read it wrong.
I reread your post in which you quoted. Read it more carefully. Do now see why you quoted him.
you're saying its the condition that is being insulted, and not the person with the condition(which was hesaying). Thats one pov.