I'm Not An Aspie. I Lied During My Assessment.

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@Magz: I've never learned to read people's emotions. I just do. By the way, I scored really poorly on the Systemising Quotient Test, as some questions don't apply to me at all.

What do you mean by you can read peoples emotions? Can you understand why they are feeling that way without being all confused about it? When someone expresses more than one emotion, does that confuse you? Or do you mean you can read basic emotions like yelling and crying and when someone stomps their feet or slams things or laughing and smiling?

Did you take the Mind's Eye test? I did. Passed it, with flying colours. I took the CAM Face-Voice Battery Test and passed both parts with flying colours.

It helps to have a mum, who, when me and brother were children, flew off the handle and a dad, who was sarcastic.

I did the Cam Face-Voice Battery Test and I scored: Faces: 88.0% Voices: 94.0% - average 91%. in 4.5 seconds.

The average score for females with ASD is 68.9% in 11.1 seconds. Faces: 70.0% Voices: 67.8%. I know when someone looks appalled, condescending, appealing, grave, etc.

Ergo, if Aspies can't read emotions, (other than the basic ones), does it mean I'm not autistic?

There are different ways of reading emotions. NT's generally rely on facial expressions, and this may not be how AS people read them.

I am very good at detecting emotional content. Being on the spectrum, I can't perform this in NT ways. One of the main sources of information is subtle changes in tone of voice, volume changes, emphasis changes, word use and other sub variables.

Fact is, many AS people do things in AS ways, to get to the same ends, and NT awareness of this fact is primitive as yet.
NTs make an error of reasoning in that if we don't do things their way, they wrongly assume we can't do it at all.

I scored very high in the "reading emotions in the face" test because I learnt the formula for it.
Autistics can compensate very well.

Yes, some can and do. The deeper issue is that NTs don't question the myth they have made and apply to all of us.

I've just re-taken the RITVO Test and my total score was 150. In July, 2015 my total score was 156. Go figure!!

Do you have a link to the tests you took?

And that is in the autism range isn't it? I have scored in the 140's last time I took it.

http://www.aspietests.org/

Yes! Thanks for putting that so succinctly.

It is quite feasible and to some extent even logical, that many in the high functioning end of the spectrum would be economical with the truth in an assessment. Whether this actually constitutes a lie or not is not easy to ascertain.

For example, many high functioning folks who were diagnosed mid life have spent their entire life up to the diagnosis living a kind of lie to themselves. For this was the consequence of unconsciously over-compensating for something they never knew was going on within themselves.

As a result, when such an individual presents themselves to a "professional" who is it that is actually presenting themselves, the highly adaptive self, or the person with autism - so be it a mild expression. In extreme cases - and there are many such cases - the individuals adaptive self pushes out the natural autistic personality, this can mask and distract the deeper authentic expressions and behaviours. Likewise, an overly adaptive person in the spectrum can feel in conflict as to how to answer diagnostic question feeling, "Is this question directed to my adaptive self, or natural aspie self.

There are many who fall into this category. Caught in- between many worlds.The neurologically typically and autistic. The highly and overly adaptive self and the true Self. Any assessment carried out under such conditions is complex and very difficult to understand.

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And this one too. I wonder how long it will take them to figure it out.

You say you don't offend people and are very polite. I wonder if you relate to this: In recent years (well, up until about 2 years ago) I was extremely polite. I was so careful not to say anything that would offend people that really didn't say much at all. Now I'm a lot less inhibited than I was, and the autism is more obvious - I'm not mistaken as simply shy as often.

Also, I was wondering a few years ago if I was autistic. almost went to get a diagnostic assessment done but decided against it because I didn't fit the AQ-test maths-loving stereotype. Had I been diagnosed back then, probably would've saved some grief. Though back then it probably wouldn't have been picked up because I played imaginatively as a kid.