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Now even you say credits I got " might " be good.
And how would I get the necessary information to take the test - How would I learn it
How would I enroll for )earning the info, also? I've been spat on so many times by the College-Industrial Complex - I'm so wounded by my encounters with them
It doesn't sound like any of this is going to work for you without a dedicated full time helper which seems very unlikely you are going to get.
Really none of this is about how to get into college because it's that you need a dedicated full time helper before anything else can start. So unless you are somehow able to achieve getting a full time helper, there's really no point in considering anything else.
And the catch 22 is you would need a dedicated helper to help you obtain a dedicated helper in the first place.[/quote]
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Renal kidney failure, congestive heart failure, COPD. Can't really get up from a floor position unhelped anymore:-(.
One of the walking wounded ~ SMASHED DOWN by life and age, now prevented from even expressing myself! SOB.
" Oh, no! First you have to PROVE you deserve to go away to college! " ~ My mother, 1978 (the heyday of Andy Gibb and Player). I would still like to go.
My life destroyed by Thorazine and Mellaril - and rape - and the Psychiatric/Industrial Complex. SOB:-(! !! !! !! !! !! !! !! !! !!
....Lef's just remember how crippled I am - wth the CHFslowness, and the diffculty of getting up
! People DIE of CHF! And relatively young, too
...And y weight is water-ballooning, too
...There's a SW here, but I' be had little contact with him...
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Renal kidney failure, congestive heart failure, COPD. Can't really get up from a floor position unhelped anymore:-(.
One of the walking wounded ~ SMASHED DOWN by life and age, now prevented from even expressing myself! SOB.
" Oh, no! First you have to PROVE you deserve to go away to college! " ~ My mother, 1978 (the heyday of Andy Gibb and Player). I would still like to go.
My life destroyed by Thorazine and Mellaril - and rape - and the Psychiatric/Industrial Complex. SOB:-(! !! !! !! !! !! !! !! !! !!
ASS-P I would quit trying to go to college with all of the problems you have. I would claim SSDI. I think you will get it. Tell them you're unable to take care of yourself and they will put you somewhere. Contrary to popular belief, you can't do anything you set your mind to.
ASS-P always wanted to have a "college experience." And I can understand that.
I didn't get that as a college-aged kid. I got it as a commuting adult.
It's sort of like something "to look forward to."
It'll give him a couple hours' respite, at least, from the life he's leading.
ASS-P is smart enough to benefit from college instruction, in my opinion. His writing errors are caused by the nature of the medium which he uses to write.
The main problem, probably, is his health status at the moment. And, perhaps, his stubborness.
"Now even you say credits I got " might " be good."
Yes, that's true! It's because different colleges have different standards, and they don't all accept CLEP. They don't even all accept each other's credits, so many students who completed courses at a two year college will find themselves having to repeat courses when they enter a four year institution. You have to check with the college you want credits from, and make sure they will accept the credits from CLEP, before you take the test. The site explains it better!
"And how would I get the necessary information to take the test - How would I learn it
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I don't know! These are things that you would have to read about on the site, and then work towards either on your own, or with help. I know that the help you get is completely unsatisfactory . . . so you would likely have to work up the determination to get the study guides yourself.
"How would I enroll for )earning the info, also? I've been spat on so many times by the College-Industrial Complex - I'm so wounded by my encounters with them
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You don't enroll for learning. That's what CLEP is. You learn on your own, and register/pay for the test only when you feel ready. I think more of a problem for you might be finding transportation to the testing site.
"And I know that getting my necessary school records would be a problem
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That is a problem at the college/university! But I think you can take the CLEP with out records. I don't have advise on getting records, other than talking to someone at the college of your choice, and asking them how to go about it. If you have no records, you can ask if there are placement exams you could take. Many colleges and universities will accept a GED examination, in place of school records. It may seem like an annoyance to have to take a GED when you already completed high school and you know it, but if it gets the ball rolling, I think you'd be happy to just get started on some college classes!
"And what kind no tech could I use to learn & work on?
All I have now is this hardly working little phone; and that isn't enough. I need help
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I wish I could help you get the tech you need! When I took CLEP, there was no tech. I just looked at books. And I passed all but one exam that way. I don't think that you need tech to study. Get some books about the subject you're challenging however you can, and start reading! You can ask people you know if they have old textbooks for that subject, or ask to be taken to the library, or put an ad up somewhere (maybe near or on the campus?) asking for books to be sent to you, or buy books new or used on sites like ebay, or amazon.
CLEP saves you hundreds and hundreds of dollars on college courses, too! The exams are very cheap compared to taking a whole course.
It may not be college, but it's a way to learn and acquire credits without actually going to the campus. I can relate to having physical issues that crate all kinds of road blocks - although my physical problems weren't nearly as bad as yours!
One thing I learned: part of the college experience is about self determination. You can't ask everyone to do everything for you, and a lot of what it takes to get through college is very difficult. Things you wouldn't expect to be difficult can seem impossible . . . like I noticed you said somewhere that you would want people to help you fill out forms. Those are the things that have to be overcome by every single college student, whether they're disabled, or not.
The beauty of CLEP exams is that there's a lot less pressure as far as time is concerned! You get to decide when you're ready to ask the college what credits they accept, when you're ready to study, and when you're ready to register. You can get more details on the website!
Good luck! I have confidence that you can do it, as long as you can work out the little details, which I know seem insurmountable! They're not, though. Make a list, and think of possible solutions to all of the problems you're facing, one by one. If you need help with gathering supplies and studying and registering, for example, maybe you could hire a tutor who will provide those services to you, even though it's unusual. Your health puts you in an unusual position, and I think some tutors would consider helping you with the process, as well as the studying.
Take care.
I didn't get that as a college-aged kid. I got it as a commuting adult.
It's sort of like something "to look forward to."
It'll give him a couple hours' respite, at least, from the life he's leading.
ASS-P is smart enough to benefit from college instruction, in my opinion. His writing errors are caused by the nature of the medium which he uses to write.
The main problem, probably, is his health status at the moment. And, perhaps, his stubborness.
So, you're saying his goal of getting his college experience is to give him 2 hours of respite from the life he's leading?
Not the total goal, of course.
But college is a situation where one can escape into the "world of knowledge," and escape from "reality" for a while.
While they are not "perfect," colleges tend to be oases from the abuses of the "real world." People tend to be calmer and more rational in a college setting, and to be more tolerant of "difference."
Even if this is the "goal," a two-hour respite is better than no respite at all.
Now even you say credits I got " might " be good.
And how would I get the necessary information to take the test - How would I learn it
How would I enroll for )earning the info, also? I've been spat on so many times by the College-Industrial Complex - I'm so wounded by my encounters with them
ainjain"]Hi, ASS-P
I didn't read your whole thread, just the first post in it, so I'm sorry if I mention something someone else already did.
You said you were interested in college/university.
I once got some college credits through the CLEP (college level examination program), and thought you might be interested in that. When I did it, you had to take the exam at the college, but you studied on your own, so you only need to go to the college for a couple of hours, not a whole semester. The credits are real, and accepted at many colleges and universities.
Check them out, they have 33 exams, and your college might accept some or all of them and give you credits!
https://clep.collegeboard.org/
I hope you're foot feels better soon! Take care.
If I were you, I'd stay at the rehab place until they literally kick you out. Heal as much as you can and milk it for everything its worth. As for your questions, that's on you bro. And no, I'm not trying to control the living hell you call your life. Do what you want.
rwho222"]I don't know what to tell you, except that I see no way out of your situation. Even if you did go to school to be a gentleman scholar of some kind, how would you pay for classes? Jr colleges can be just as expensive if not more than a 4 year school.
With regard to the help I had, if you have an application, stamp, and a mail box, you've got it. With online applications now, you don't even need the last two.
What infrastructure are you imagining here? The only thing my HS guidance councilor did was give me some advice on schools that had programs I was considering. They took no active steps to get me accepted or enrolled.
What would you say was more difficult, getting into college or the college courses once you were in college? In other words if someone is unable to handle the process of getting into college, is it likely they would also be unable to handle college courses?
Getting in wasn't hard, just tedious. Forms to fill out and etc, but I really dont see what ASS Ps issue is. As for "handling" college courses, well, for me the most challenging were calculus and physics (I was a biology major) but as long as I worked I did fine. The reason most people dont succede is not usually lack of ability. Its usually lack of dicipline and effective time management.
And, what causes the lack of discipline and effective time management exactly?
It's like when I ask someone why won't a computer or an electrical appliance turn on someone answer's it's not receiving power. Ok duhhhhhhhhhhhhhh!! Of course it needs to be powered to be turned on but why isn't it receiving power?
Point is your analysis of why most people don't succeed is absolutely to simplistic. Could it be that they're lazy(possible), have severe sleep apnea, severe executive dysfunction, comprehension problems, chronic fatigue, depression, other mental or physical illness, etc, etc?
Cubeo, you are way over analyzing. These are hot blooded teenagers and early 20 somethings for the most part, who are, for the first time in their young lives, away from parents prying eyes, and who for the first time do not have a lot of order and structure forced on them by teachers paid to at least act like they give a damn. Sleep apnea? Exectuive dysfunctiuon? Comprehension problems? Gimme a break. Its parties, pot, alcohol, and promiscuous sex. Sorry but it IS just that simple.
rwho222"]I don't know what to tell you, except that I see no way out of your situation. Even if you did go to school to be a gentleman scholar of some kind, how would you pay for classes? Jr colleges can be just as expensive if not more than a 4 year school.
With regard to the help I had, if you have an application, stamp, and a mail box, you've got it. With online applications now, you don't even need the last two.
What infrastructure are you imagining here? The only thing my HS guidance councilor did was give me some advice on schools that had programs I was considering. They took no active steps to get me accepted or enrolled.
What would you say was more difficult, getting into college or the college courses once you were in college? In other words if someone is unable to handle the process of getting into college, is it likely they would also be unable to handle college courses?
Getting in wasn't hard, just tedious. Forms to fill out and etc, but I really dont see what ASS Ps issue is. As for "handling" college courses, well, for me the most challenging were calculus and physics (I was a biology major) but as long as I worked I did fine. The reason most people dont succede is not usually lack of ability. Its usually lack of dicipline and effective time management.
And, what causes the lack of discipline and effective time management exactly?
It's like when I ask someone why won't a computer or an electrical appliance turn on someone answer's it's not receiving power. Ok duhhhhhhhhhhhhhh!! Of course it needs to be powered to be turned on but why isn't it receiving power?
Point is your analysis of why most people don't succeed is absolutely to simplistic. Could it be that they're lazy(possible), have severe sleep apnea, severe executive dysfunction, comprehension problems, chronic fatigue, depression, other mental or physical illness, etc, etc?
Cubeo, you are way over analyzing. These are hot blooded teenagers and early 20 somethings for the most part, who are, for the first time in their young lives, away from parents prying eyes, and who for the first time do not have a lot of order and structure forced on them by teachers paid to at least act like they give a damn. Sleep apnea? Exectuive dysfunctiuon? Comprehension problems? Gimme a break. Its parties, pot, alcohol, and promiscuous sex. Sorry but it IS just that simple.
Ok Dr. Whovie so you're saying that all or the vast majority of the teens or early 20 somethings who went to college did not succeed because of parties, pot alcohol and promiscuous sex. Is this correct? How do you know this? What is your evidence for this?
Couldn't another possibility be at least for some that they're not college material and maybe they needed to be in blue collared work like being a plumber, auto repair, construction worker or even Air Traffic Controller? Can everyone succeed at college if they work hard or does a certain latent ability have to be there?
I was there and saw it happen. Next question.
Edited to add: Yes, you are right, many don't belong there at all. Problem is college is presented in HS as the right path for everyone when in fact that's not true at all. And for those who don't really belong, what I said absolutely applied. It was a four year party education optional.
...I guess Ezra has help to benefit him with being non-verbal
- Though he appears to express himself in front of a keyboard okay.
I have no help. ![]()
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Renal kidney failure, congestive heart failure, COPD. Can't really get up from a floor position unhelped anymore:-(.
One of the walking wounded ~ SMASHED DOWN by life and age, now prevented from even expressing myself! SOB.
" Oh, no! First you have to PROVE you deserve to go away to college! " ~ My mother, 1978 (the heyday of Andy Gibb and Player). I would still like to go.
My life destroyed by Thorazine and Mellaril - and rape - and the Psychiatric/Industrial Complex. SOB:-(! !! !! !! !! !! !! !! !! !!
I have no help.
You say you want to read and study? I do that every day, and aside from an odd course taken here or there over the years to either learn something new about my profession or refresh my memory I haven't been to any school for close to 15 years.
