I find this contradicting
According to the DWP I'm regarded as 'severely disabled'. If I said I'm just 'different' and got taken off disability benefits I'd end up knee deep in crap.
Could you get it on autism alone?
I couldn't.
I needed to have a breakdown over mental illness in order to get it and it's all based around anxiety that I have ESA.[/quote]
I have been under mental health services since late 1973. The majority of the time with a dx within the 'psychosis spectrum'.[/quote]
Then you're disabled. Like me.
Don't need being aspie to be a disability to make that happen. You have mental health issues. So do I. That is why I hate it when people say 'it's dangerous to say autistic people have mental illnesses' - some of us do have them just like some people who are allistic do.
I don't think all autism =/= a disability btw. I just don't think it disables myself personally outside of sensory stuff/meltdowns.
I would hate to wake up and have less ability to see detail, less in depth specialist interests, more obsession with/missing other people and the lack of ability to see in twilight (my mother thinks it's amazing I can see in a room with blackout blinds up and no lighting when it's dawn & know what she's wearing). Even it it meant I got increased social skills, a bunch of friends and a girlfriend in exchange.
The only thing I'd sacrifice those parts of myself for is if I never had light sensitivity or a migraine ever again or a meltdown. Bear in mind, my mum gets migraines from lights too and so did my grandma and both of those women were/are very NT.
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Like the empathy s**t. Loads of Aspies here think NTs have 100% empathy in any given situation and Aspies have 0% empathy for others.
There could be a whole thread discussing agreeably to how most NTs feel empathy for those that have experienced the same as them as not so much for those that haven't, but then another thread pops up with the OP whining about how they only can feel empathy for those that have experienced the same as them and everyone agrees like "oh yes, autistics can only feel empathy for others experiencing the same as us".
Empathy this, empathy that, I wish the blessed word did not exist.
Believe me, it does.
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The Nazi eisengruppen murdered hundreds of people with their bare hands but they were loving husbands to their wives and fathers to their children.
It's because they were nazis. Most NTs cannot go from one end of the empathy scale to the other end drastically like that.
I don't think I could have been a nazi. I'll probably be so painfully empathetic and guilty about the Jews (and anyone else they tortured) that the other nazis would probably shoot me because they'll think I was one of them.
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They don`t understand that to unlock any help including support, care & financial welfare autism needs to remain officially a disability.
Idiots the lot of them
By forgetting it's a spectrum, you do Autism Speaks' work for them.
They want a cure too.
Can't fix what isn't broken.
Not sure what your getting at? we all know it’s a spectrum but what % of us are able to go it alone?
No help nothing
Take away the disability status and you take away the help simple as that.
Lots of worthy charities out there people with serious illnesses and disabilities and a finite amount of cash to give.
It’s not sociological rocket science :
In the red corner we have those that claim they are not disabled just different and happy the way they are. They successfully lobbied to remove their condition from a list of disorders
In the blue corner we have those who are officially disabled they say they need lots of help they officially have a “disorder”
Who’s joe public and the government going to give their $ or £ to? Who’s going to get help out the two if there’s only resources for one?
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"The reasonable man adapts himself to the world; the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself. Therefore all progress depends upon the unreasonable man."
- George Bernie Shaw
I feel as if i am intruding when i should not...Still, i will render my humble opinion from an outsider's perspective...First and foremost, i totally understand the RELUCTANCE to accept a diagnosis of "DISABILITY"...And, i mean any form of disability, because of the STIGMA associated with such a label...Americans, among other cultures, are brought-up with hard-work ethics...Since childhood, we aspire to grow-up to become productive members of society...In a country where independence is the ideal, to be 'disabled' would imply that one is dependent on others...Thankfully, Americans, as a society, have decided to contribute to the wellbeing of those in need--the homeless, the elderly, the disabled, among others...Please think about this for a moment: Who is truly self-sufficient???! !!...Even if you live by permaculture principles (look-up definition in dictionary), nobody is totally self-sufficient...If i may add, God did not intend for humans to be dependant nor independent...God created humans to be INTERDEPENDENT...(It is also true that God did not intend for humans to suffer any form of disability, syndrome, illness or the like)...If one believes this to be true, that humans were created to be MUTUALLY DEPENDANT ON EACH OTHER, one is more willing to accept the help of others if and when one needs it...As to whether autism is a disability...What are the facts?...???...From my very limited knowledge on the topic, i understand there is a genetic component to autism and a genetic link to serious illnesses, such as epilepsy and schizophrenia...(As to these last-mentioned facts, please correct me if i am misinformed)...Furthermore, based on my personal observations of autistic students in a school setting, autism is definitely limiting and therefore disabling...At the same time, one must acknowledge that every person--autistic or not--has his or her own particular strengths that makes him or her UNIQUE despite and in spite of a 'disability'...Take for example, my beloved (Aspie) husband who cooks like a professional, because he studied to be a cook and worked in that line of work for one decade...He is also great as a handyman, helping around our property...I especially admire his discipline, which has helped him adhere to a strength-training routine for more than two decades...He is a real asset to any employer because of his extraordinarily high work-ethics--punctual, hardworking, good team player...And because of his humility, he is readily willing to do the kind of work others may turn-down...Until recently, he was working in agriculture, planting during the night-time or harvesting during the day-time...Because of various factors, this essential job is considered to be high-risk for Covid 19...At present-time, he is working with cattle, requiring minimal contact with other workers; so, i am grateful for this last job...My beloved husband is able to speak various languages, one fluently and three more at a basic level...If i may add, he is a great soccer-player--though he has not had the opportunity to play in recent times...And, i both admire and fear
his photographic memory...I am eager to discover more of his peculiar qualities, like the last-mentioned, that make him UNIQUE
...In conclusion, someone may have one or more limitations--physical or otherwise--and still be able to contribute to society in a meaningful way...So, do not be mislead by a "disability" label...In the case of my beloved husband, i truly doubt he will ever pursue an official diagnosis of Asperger's syndrome; and consequently, he may never qualify to access any related resources and/or benefits, such as housing, therapy, marriage counseling, etc...At present-time, he only cares to be accepted as he is by a few important people in his life...I ACCEPT HIM WHOLEHEARTEDLY...And last but not least, please keep in mind that in many developing nations around the world, there are no resources for those who fall under the 'umbrella' of autism...These patients have no name for their medical condition, no monetary assistance, no form of therapy available or anything of such...And if said resources exist, they would only be made available to the rich...So, if you live in a developed country with resources and protections under the law, consider yourself blessed...Have an awesome week, you all...
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Post Script...Just realized one of my comments above may be misleading...Let me clarify, though my beloved husband still enjoys cooking, he may or may not eat his delicious meals...I suppose it depends on how he is feeling on any given day ![]()
Worry not. You are not.
To begin with, any differences are perceived with wary.
The specific stigma came from the west for most part, in a form of blantant dehumanization and the ever misunderstood contexts of empathy.
The US just escalated it in a form of the known biggest nonprofit charity and the apparent obsession of profiling school shooters with labels.
In which no "No man is an island".
Most people do not understand this.
These are mostly facts.
Yet most of these facts are muddled with fighting dehumanization, and the whole idea that autism is one huge bogeyman doomed to live in tragic fates.
My family accepts me too, traits and all.
Though they are clueless.
But I love them and accept them wholeheartedly back.
From where I came from, it doesn't matter if the case is severe level 3 or so called mild case level 1 -- there's just no resources or formal system for it.
Everytime concerning 'goverment assistance', 'accessing services' usually makes me excluded.
Because the concept of availability mostly doesn't exist.
Worry not.
I'm mostly the same.
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It's because they were nazis. Most NTs cannot go from one end of the empathy scale to the other end drastically like that.
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Correct on both points.
But these men were first human. They were capable of the worst possible behaviour a human being can commit but all evidence points to them being able to show tremendous love and empathy for the family and community.
NTs are capable of switching it on and off. All of them.
Some saw stability in them; but many probably lived in fear.
Agreed.
From memory, Hitler gained power with around 33% of voter support.
Don't quote me, but it was close to that.
I'm too lazy to look it up again.
What does that mean?
At the time of Hitler's election, about 2/3s were against the Nazi party.
When he became dictator, there would have been a lot of nazis with a small "n" because you would have been victimised or have very limited prospects of improving your social position.
There was a recent Tweet(?) I believe where Democtrat(s) were suggesting that Republicans would be punished, now that the Democrats were in power.
It doesn't take Einstein "to connect the dots" in regard to what would have been happening in Nazi Germany.
Post Script...Just realized one of my comments above may be misleading...Let me clarify, though my beloved husband still enjoys cooking, he may or may not eat his delicious meals...I suppose it depends on how he is feeling on any given day
Mother of god!
One of the biggest blocks of type I have ever seen in the universe!
A lot of people have problems with walls of type.
Most people prefer paragraphs breaking it up.
Because of my semi-dyslexia, I won't be reading your post at all.
Sorry.
Post Script...Just realized one of my comments above may be misleading...Let me clarify, though my beloved husband still enjoys cooking, he may or may not eat his delicious meals...I suppose it depends on how he is feeling on any given day
Mother of god!
One of the biggest blocks of type I have ever seen in the universe!
A lot of people have problems with walls of type.
Most people prefer paragraphs breaking it up.
Because of my semi-dyslexia, I won't be reading your post at all.
Sorry.
Pepe, at least read my apology...I did think of breaking it down into paragraphs...But that would had made it even longer...Please accept my apologies...I will definitely break it down next time...
Worry not. You are not.
To begin with, any differences are perceived with wary.
The specific stigma came from the west for most part, in a form of blantant dehumanization and the ever misunderstood contexts of empathy.
The US just escalated it in a form of the known biggest nonprofit charity and the apparent obsession of profiling school shooters with labels.
In which no "No man is an island".
Most people do not understand this.
These are mostly facts.
Yet most of these facts are muddled with fighting dehumanization, and the whole idea that autism is one huge bogeyman doomed to live in tragic fates.
My family accepts me too, traits and all.
Though they are clueless.
But I love them and accept them wholeheartedly back.
From where I came from, it doesn't matter if the case is severe level 3 or so called mild case level 1 -- there's just no resources or formal system for it.
Everytime concerning 'goverment assistance', 'accessing services' usually makes me excluded.
Because the concept of availability mostly doesn't exist.
Worry not.
I'm mostly the same.
Thank you for responding...And good night...
Post Script...Just realized one of my comments above may be misleading...Let me clarify, though my beloved husband still enjoys cooking, he may or may not eat his delicious meals...I suppose it depends on how he is feeling on any given day
Mother of god!
One of the biggest blocks of type I have ever seen in the universe!
A lot of people have problems with walls of type.
Most people prefer paragraphs breaking it up.
Because of my semi-dyslexia, I won't be reading your post at all.
Sorry.
Pepe, at least read my apology...I did think of breaking it down into paragraphs...But that would had made it even longer...Please accept my apologies...I will definitely break it down next time...
Ummm, no. -pout-
It's because they were nazis. Most NTs cannot go from one end of the empathy scale to the other end drastically like that.
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Correct on both points.
But these men were first human. They were capable of the worst possible behaviour a human being can commit but all evidence points to them being able to show tremendous love and empathy for the family and community.
NTs are capable of switching it on and off. All of them.[/quote]
I have noticed this in every human. I have seen so much lack of empathy but yet they can care about animals or care about certain other people.
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Son: Diagnosed w/anxiety and ADHD. Also academic delayed and ASD lv 1.
Daughter: NT, no diagnoses. Possibly OCD. Is very private about herself.
