Diagnosed when older? The process of accepting the dx?

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17 Dec 2008, 1:07 am

Re boss - that's the social blunder, precisely: acting according to healthy logic instead of an intuition of what the boss will want.


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17 Dec 2008, 1:13 am

yes, greentea. it is precisley what i would have done. Your account of that situation with your boss is very similar to the kind of faux-pas's and social mistakes i make. i usually base my actions and words on an internal logic that makes perfect sense to me, but is out of kilter with the social nuances in any given context. good luck. :)



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17 Dec 2008, 1:16 am

I dunno, I think I was confused at first. But it really helped exsplaned stuff.

I started reading all I could about Aspergers and Autism. And I wrote fantasy stories to help exsplain my autism to me.



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17 Dec 2008, 1:28 am

millie wrote:
i usually base my actions and words on an internal logic that makes perfect sense to me, but is out of kilter with the social nuances in any given context.


Exactly. Especially at work, it's all about fitting in with the dysfunction. Trying to put oneself in the shoes of the dysfunctional boss. I beat myself up because I know I lack the intuition to do this well, so I should've tried to catch my supervisor and ask her before doing anything, or I should've been more neutral in my offer to help the colleague...


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17 Dec 2008, 6:17 am

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I don't identify with most of the participants on this board and I have yet to meet anyone IRL that is on the spectrum- .


The same with me. I'm actually very normal with no emotional baggage, and a lot of common sense, yet agree and accept that I have AS. I identify with the research that Hans Asperger did, but some folks that are being diagnosed with AS don't seem to be "little professors" at all. I've always been very academic and moral. My teachers in grade school would let me teach the class and give speeches about the topics that interested me, music and history. I loved that. I always saw the whole picture, not just parts of objects.


then count yourself lucky, most of us have emotional baggage as a result of our own interaction with society at large, but in all respects i think these problems have also given me allot of strength i would otherwise lack so i guess its a give/take sort of relationship between me and the world...

but i dont know what you are implying with common sense? i think maybe your suffering from a touch of arrogance here, as do many AS.. not meant to be offensive..

i think if all Dxing was based on the original founders, we would still be stuck on Freud and the like with little or no progress..i am not too familiar with Hans's work, but as far as i am concerned Autism is a very wide spectrum...



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17 Dec 2008, 6:30 am

I wouldn't say the individuals Hans Asperger described were emotionally normal.



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17 Dec 2008, 7:15 am

I'll tell you, common sense meant something very different through the decades when Aspergers didn't get represented in the analysis than it does now.

Well, to be honest, I don't have a good model for common sense any more. It just seems that whatever I try, to mitigate the bad effects of this genetic disorder, fails to achieve results. I care about results, I work hard to agree on expectations and to deliver on them in my daily grind, but it's never enough. There's always some normal bastard waiting in the wings to steal the credit and cast me back to the outer darkness.



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17 Dec 2008, 8:09 am

I've always viewed my diagnosis in a very positive way, because it has helped explain so many things about me. Plus, I think there are many benefits to being an Aspie- all of my good traits (excellent memory for facts, enthusiasm for things, etc.) come from having Asperger's. However, I often worry that I don't really have AS, since I have mild social deficits. I know that this is silly, because I've been diagnosed several times and reading books about people with AS is like reading books about myself, but I still worry that I'm "faking it" sometimes. I went through the same thing when I was diagnosed with OCD, which is also a very accurate diagnosis.
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17 Dec 2008, 10:49 am

I think the question is still open with science as to whether or not autism is a genetic disorder.


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17 Dec 2008, 11:03 am

and Tony Attwood says AS can be cured instantly by people just leaving us alone! :lol:

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17 Dec 2008, 2:22 pm

peterd wrote:
It just seems that whatever I try, to mitigate the bad effects of this genetic disorder, fails to achieve results.


same here.


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17 Dec 2008, 2:37 pm

Honestly Millie, I was officially diagnosed at the age of 29yrs of age and it has been somewhat difficult in working around the problems of a social nature, but I'm getting better at it each and everyday though through and through. I think that if I had been dx'ed earlier I'd really not have as much resources available to me as there are nowdays.In fact, I'd go as far as to say, many of occupational services and other supports of that nature would hardly be there for me let's say 10 or more years back.
Yes, there are times when I do feel a great amount of discouragement with some things in life but, who does not have his/her obstacles which, one must learn to overcome via consistent & calm persistance of the human spirit Millie.

I think this sums up the main points of my post without appearing to ramble or look foolish therefore, thanks most kindly Millie as, your post was very insightful in fact, I've recently been appointed to become a member of a Aspergian panel on a local level here in my own city to help establish a better understanding of Aspergians esp, those of "us" whom were dx'ed later in life.


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17 Dec 2008, 4:19 pm

oh hi professor X. how is it going? i always like to hear from you and to say hi to you also. that is great news that you have been appointed to a panel in your city. i am sure you will offer incredible insight and education on matters pertaining to AS. good luck with it.

By the way, i do agree with you regarding availbale resources in this current day and age. The issue for many of us is that there WAS NO diagnosis earlier BECAUSE there was NO CRITERIA! and i do agree the up side of comprehending it all in adulthood is that we are able to approach the issue in a mature way and a manner that grasps the complexities of the issues we face.

well happy xmas professor x. as usual it is wonderful to connect.
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17 Dec 2008, 4:25 pm

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and Tony Attwood says AS can be cured instantly by people just leaving us alone! :lol:

Merle


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18 Dec 2008, 2:12 am

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Yep, id say its normal.

I learnt of AS a year and a month ago... first 4 months were 'AWESOME I KNOW WHY' and got into trying to catch/improve/better myself now that I knew why things were the way they were...

The next 4 months were rather depressing as nothing really changed. 'I know Why but im still screwed... wish I hadn't found out' kind of thing.

These last 5 months have been rather exciting with all the things I set in motion the first 4 months now slowly working themselves out. Not much has changed as to the way I am but how i'm living is certainly changing very dramatically very soon.


Hang in there, plan and execute and then be patient. It's like tetris in a way.. if you start forcing the pieces to fall faster you end up with a pile you can't control :)


That sounds like me exactly


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18 Dec 2008, 2:51 am

sinsboldly wrote:
and Tony Attwood says AS can be cured instantly by people just leaving us alone! :lol:

Merle


Yes.

Society interacting with us, and subsequently imposing actions and expectations that we can't achieve is what makes "this" a disorder.

If the child with an ASD was left to his or her own devices, and not forced into the social school system and having all of the social expectations placed on them, will create the most comfortable life for the individual with an ASD. If and when the individual with an ASD wants their cupful of social interaction, they can go out on their own accord and hopefully find another who only likes the same cup, rather than the social and emotional bucket normal people carry.