Picking Up Social Situations Intuitively....

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marshall, I don't think it's a question of intelligence. Anyone can see that those poems deserve publishing. You don't need too much intelligence for that. The problem, I think, is that I'm poignant. By writing it as a wiki entry of 700 years into the future, I knew I'd move him deeply because he had said that he admired some writers from 700 hundred years ago. Somehow I always manage to hurt people where it hurts them the most. I was trying to be encouraging, not hurtful. This is the kind of thing my family and everyone always hated me for.

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I had checked my online Webster's and it said A mild state of nausea

I think what it comes down to is this: If a male, of any species, wants to reproduce (and this seems to be the be-all-end-all of Life As We Know It), then that male must, at least temporarily, gain control over a female. I suspect that if you trace gender relations over the course of Civilization, you will find a pattern of increasingly subtle, but not decreasingly effective, ways for men to control women.



And let me just say, that in our enlightened Western countries, male genital mutilation is practiced as a matter of course, and nobody says a word.

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It's not mutilation, for Heaven's sake. It's a bit of skin, that's all.

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Yes, it's more attractive imo too.

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Wow, so many interesting posts lately! I almost don´t know where to start.

Ingevar- You mentioned the Neanderthal theory of AS; I heard it mentioned once on WP, but I wasn´t sure what it was...it sounds intriguing, I´d be interested in knowing more about it. Also what you said about the matriarchal social system: I find this very interesting as well. Before I knew what it was that made me "different", I had the idea that I just didn´t fit into this society at all because our system is patriarchal, and I just felt wrong...I had the feeling a matriarchal system would fit me better. For awhile, I studied Goddess worship (hence the username) and ancient cultures. I find that I get thoroughly depressed if I try too hard to live in our society and be "normal"- (unfortunately, I tried this for far too long)- so it works best if I live more in my own world, and do my own thing. Another thing is I am also a celiac (can´t eat gluten), and there are some theories that celiacs are better off eating a more Neanderthal kind of diet, with more seeds, fruits, nuts, meats, etc. I guess I don´t know really what I´m talking about exactly, but I´d be curious to hear more about this theory...if you have a link to send, maybe...(or you can PM me).

Alba- thanks for your dense posts, there has been a lot of "food for thought" there. In terms of the man/woman thing, I found your ideas very interesting. That is one of the "problems" that I´ve had in many relationships, is that I never seemed to realize that when I speak to an NT man, that I´m "supposed" to speak differently than I do to other people, and adopt an air of inferiority and deference. I never did this, I think of myself as being equal to men and I speak to them as I do to anyone else. I have very often offended them, I guess due to this reason. Again, this is one of the many things that NT women seem to just "know"...of course, now that I do know it, as you say I will choose to ignore it probably, because it just seems so stupid. Yes, these hierarchies are really annoying.

Thanks!

OK, so now I wanted to ask another question that relates to this thread. I was thinking of starting a parallel thread, or a sequel...(I might still do that).

In order to ask my question, I have to explain it first. Once, I watched a documentary about a girl with AS. It showed her out on the playground, trying to interact with the NT children at school. All of the kids were playing together on the playground, with balls. She was not only trying to get a ball to play with, but also trying to interact with the other children. The children just ignored her; when she spoke, they would often act as if she wasn´t even there, or would turn their backs on her. The person narrating the documentary said it was NOT THE CHILDREN`S fault that they were treating her as if she wasn´t there, that it was due to the fact that the AS child "had the wrong body language". What´s going on there? What are these kids "sensing"? How does that work? I was shocked that the narrator kind of said that it was alright for the other children to treat her as if she were sub-human. is it really and truly just a subliminal reaction? This is what I´m trying to understand.

I notice that if I walk into a big social gathering, where I don´t really know anyone- (not that I do this much anymore, ha!)- the people also tend to turn their backs on me, or treat me as if I´m barely there...I feel like I´m the one who has to make all the effort. I felt quite rejected after all these experiences, and it´s one of the reasons why I kind of stopped trying.

Does anyone have any thoughts on this type of "intuition", or whatever it is?

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It happens to me all the time too, but where people already know me enough, or at least a bit, to have had some intuitions / insights about me. If it happens to you from the very first moment, I guess it only means that whatever gets us rejected and ignored is more outwardly visible in you.

This is one of the reasons I think I'd prefer to join a meet-up with structured activities and a nice campus to stroll around. That way I'd have something to do apart from trying to relate and being ignored and rejected by everyone.

Sorry, I didn’t mean to imply that my message was in any way related to a particular thing you said in this thread. I was really just adding my 2 cents about people in general. To be honest I didn't completely follow your exchange with Ingevar so I kind of messed up there. I guess that's what I get for not reading carefully enough.

I still think you’re very insightful and I tend to equate with insight with intelligence. I’m going to have to stand on that opinion.