proud aspies really anger me

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this sounds not proud.

in its own way, this sounds proud.

Hm. *gets mirror* OK, there's a psychologist. and I've got a mirror.
Durn. Can't do it. I've over a thousand posts.
ROTFLOL!

I couldn't leave alone that part about thousands of posts.

WP isn't a forum for discussing issue related to Asperger's anymore. Many people with AS communicate much more easily online that IRL.
I hypothesize that the creation of these forums inevitably would lead to the formation of a community with stronger connections than one might find on a forum discussing, say, ytmd.
This plus the AS predilection for forum style interaction, leads to people posting things like ROFLOL. We are not just having discussions - we are interacting. Using myself as an example, we see that I have never entered the chat room. Why? Conversation goes much too fast there. Posting in the threads allows my to slow down my thoughts and say things far less impulsively than IRL or on chat. I have been here since July and have yet to hear that someone was totally offended by something I said. IRL conversations with people last less than 30 seconds, and no one has had any desire to interact with me for one month, much less five. In this town I have one work acquaintance, two exes, and a woman I met in 1995 who moved her a few years ago. Online I have a bunch of friends - six or seven at last count, and more who I simply haven't gotten to know yet.

Hence people with thousands of posts.

I should have said "personally insulted when it wasnt called for imo" or something along those lines. That probably looks like i was trying to get a mod to warn you and others that argued with toonaspies position but i wasnt.

I regret putting down the comment of 1000 posts because I've unnecessarily picked on a lot of the people on here. And that's a good point you raise about it being a place of socialising. I think I was just upset in reading how some people reacted so negatively towards toonaspie's original post. I personally am hurt when someone is negative towards me on these boards - as if someone did the same in real life.

Toonaspie wrote,

The desire, was, to attack your reasoning.
I am Blunt, i am honest, i don't beat around the bush.
I realize my handicap, when it comes to speaking my mind, That would be lack of Diplomacy.
Sophist, she has diplomacy, i do not.
I am, who i am and i will not apologize. I would like you to know that, i was aiming for the logic of your words, the reasoning, and the why. You were not my target. I am not careful enough to see that sometimes there is not a difference. Nor can i establish the difference in the way i communicate. I do not know you, i have no right to speak about you. And i intended not to.
i feel like i have a right to speakabout the words in the post, but only to the way that i have interpreted them. Which could also be a mistake, since i have no way to know what your intention really is.




That didn't sound like an apology, but it does not matter. THERE IS NO REASON FOR YOU TO APOLOGISE. Why should someone apologize for the way they feel? You are completely entitled to your opinions, like others are entitled to respond.
If that is the way you actually feel, then you are 100% correct, but only applied to yourself.

You get pissed at me because you think i am warm and fuzzy, living in a lolipop land of magic dreams, and i act like that annoying Blonde cheerleader, that is fine, you are entitled.
Do not apologize, because you are not wrong, as your words apply to you.



You are not a troll. how could i know, since i do not know you.

Stating your oppinions are great, even better if i disagree with them. The reason is that opens up a dialogue which gives people the opportunity to argue opposing points of view. The heated debates (such as this) are the best of all. It allows others to see an opposing point of view, and gives them the opportunity to reason for themselves, the correct version to apply in their own lives.
It has been a few weeks since i have joined (more than two, or is a few defined as 3?). and i have been in the mix a few times, because i enjoy it. I am not a pacifist. That is me. I hope you are not scared off by this whole event, because i am looking forward to having a number of verbal brawls with you.
I don't think any less of you as a person, than i did previously. i didn't know you then, i still do not. I actually think more of you, since i feel that my disagreements with you will provide me with my style of entertainment. Your fine, by me. I don't mean to come accross as Judgemental of any person, and i am not sensitive, i don't care, you didn't hurt my feelings, you accidently opened a door, which i was happy to barge through.
We are all a little better off, because of your post.
I hope you are too.

Next time, if all you are doing is venting, take it to the Haven. I'm not allowed to have fun there.

Good luck with your struggles, if you aver feel that maybe i can help, don't be shy, justy ask, i will do anything i can. Usually its just a cheerleading routine, high leg kick and all.


SB²

eamonn, your next.

Nothing wrong with that outlook but in my own case my surroundings (friends, family, my own psyche) aren't gonna let me be ok with using those things to justify being at peace with living with less. Almost everything in my life and everyone, whether directly or indirectly, has a way of telling me that I should be ashamed of making excuses for living with less - enough to where its embedded in my own psyche and anytime I do let myself think like that the existential depression gets unbearable untill I just start pushing myself to try and be NT.

I'm one of those really truely proud aspies, but i don't trumpet that anyone else should be proud. I think people would be happier if they tried to view their condition as something to be proud about rather than ashamed, but i know that suggesting that is a lot easier than doing it.

I'm also an aspie supremacist. I bet i have lost, or am losing a lot of credibility with people on this site because i think that aspies are better people, or evolutionarily superior, or whatever than NT's, but i don't think anything like this is terribly serious. I think aspies are better people much the same way i prefer yellow mustard to brown mustard. It is a practically insignifigant difference whose only practical function is to make people feel good about themselves, or in the more sadistic, make other people less happy about themselves. But despite my belief in aspie supremacy i dont really do all those things you imagine other kinds of supremists doing. I don't mock NT's about their abilities, i don't "hate" on them. I just think that autism is going to be a method of living which creates a lot more happiness in its members than NT's.

Another thing is that i know my kind of confidence, and conviction is rare(except in psychotic delusions) and that being this way when you arent naturally this way is a feat of effort matching that of heros. And i can't simply expect people to be this way, and i have no right to look down on people who arent this way. I want people to be confident and happy with themselves, but i know it is no simple task. As a matter of policy, rather than tell people to "be confident", i tell them good things about themselves. Eventually enough support turns into confidence.

I'm a proud aspie because if you're not confident in what you are than whats the point of living for. What do you expect us to do act like depressive aspies/conforming to NTs and being fake!
I feel all of us have something in common and that is for the most part we commnicate quite well with eack other online and I guareented you if we'd met each other we would communicate well off line as well. It's just clear sense! I'm also like being true to myself And being real with one self is a positive trait to have as a human being. So please be happy of who you are... what do you expect out of us? We are who we are...[/i]

A cure for autism?
from our own, WP.

http://www.wrongplanet.net/asperger.htm ... le&sid=295

check it out

Yes, and you should be. Asperger isn't no disease or fatal illness, it a disorder which impairs how we
communicate and relate to the common Neurotypicals if you really think about it. All of us have so much in common and can communicate just as effectively as Nts does. This must be a partial reason why this website was created. To bond with one another and share the good and bad experience about our lives. We should all be proud of being aspies because thats who we are.

There will never truly be a cure for Aspergers or Autism. That is what I truly think.

Kevv, it was a lead in.
there was a link below that led to an interview from this website the main talk seemed to focus on a cure.
Same with the origionation of this thread.

Here is the link again, and reason for edit;
http://www.wrongplanet.net/asperger.htm ... le&sid=295



I wasn't looking for an answer, but since you did.

I tend to lean towards your statement, but i am not ruling out

Last edited by SB2 on 08 Jan 2006, 4:55 am, edited 1 time in total.

As sophist pointed out i think the cure that is being researched most into and the most likely (at least far into the future) to come about is pre-natal screening for abortion of autistics as we have now for people with downs syndrome.

This is hypothetical at the moment as autistics isnt a noticeable genetic difference like Downs syndrome is and there is no way of telling an autistic in any way other than behaviour in an adult which makes being able to tell the difference in the womb impossible, at least for now.

SB2

I Myself I was not looking for answer I was just stating what I think on this Subject. That is why I posted what I posted in the end. That is all I was doing nothing else in the end.

A Cure Mankind has Really never Cured to many things in this World of Ours if Ever and Most Likely will never be able to in the end.

No intention of attacking *YOU*.
Posted thoughts however, are fair game: mine as much as anyone else's.
Your point of view is a stimulus to thought, whether I agree with it or not, possibly even more if I don't agree, and that I value. There' not much point in excluding everything other than like-minded opinon. That's stultifying
(Though that might just be an AS perspective)

And I can identify with the pleasures or at least the temptations of curling up in a corner and whimpering. Been there, done that. But it does get boring and it's nothing but a temporary fix (So is chocolate, and I go that route from time to time!)