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If I may give you my opinion ? Hick hiking is a dangerous game to play, but on the other hand riding a taxi to most people it is equivalent to hitch hiking. taxi services how ever especially in states where you have to call to set up a pick up; is less dangerous due to information that is most likely kept on file.


My second opinion; It may not cost 200 for the taxi, when I went to Baltimore it cost me only $50 for the ride to my uncle home.

My third opinion is concerning Sean playing his Xbox, his world shouldn't have to stop because of his depressingly hard time.

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I posted a list of plane fares/ticket prices a while back, and pointed out that he could easily afford to pay for that, plus food, and other expenses, etc with the $670 that he had received, but the issue about the xbox360 is not so much that he could sell it, ( but in fact doesn't need to ), but that it makes his stories about being poverty stricken so much less credible, and the extent of the lies/distortions of the truth even more visible.


A lot of us have already realised this, and several of us donors have already said that it doesn't matter so much about the money, that we only sent what we could afford to lose and so on, ... but the question still remains; should he be allowed to get away with it or not? As members of a community here, and of a wider society, is it right to let someone do this and just "write it off".

And here is where it matters whether he did it deliberately right from the start of his membership, or from July, anyway, or whether he just slid into it, taking advantage of our interest and concern, when he either believed in the gf story or was so lost in his feelings of deprivation, life's injustice, etc that he didn't care about anything else.

He seems to have left such a trail that it is unlikely that he came here thinking of running a scam, so ...

If he is not an already experienced and hardened scammer then I think it is worth trying to think of some way to bring home to him that this sort of thing is quite simply wrong, ( as hale bopp said, "unacceptable" ). The question is how. I'm going to pm hale bopp to discuss this with her. Perhaps anyone else interested in doing something about it could do so aswell ( pm her or me ).
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Well....considering all that's been said since TeaEarlGreyHot talked to him, it sure sounds like we've been scammed. I'm not worried about the $20, it just makes me feel stupid for actually sending him money in the first place.

Some of the questions which have been asked recently on this thread should've been asked a long time ago. I should've been one of the people to ask them since I was one of the people who sent him money.

"Why can't you sell your Xbox Sean"?

"Why can't your family and friends lend you the money"? It's hard to believe he couldn't scare up a few hundred dollars between all of them.

"Why not donate Plasma Sean"?

etc.....


It's actually all pretty stupid on his part as well. He reminds me of the lowlife street criminals who rob convenience stores for a lousy $50 or something.

What is the logic behind going through all the trouble and potential risk that he did for a lousy $600?

What is he a crack addict or something?

That's quite possible. At this point, I really don't care for my sake. I'm just trying to get his side for y'all that donated money to him.

I don't send money to people, period.

No I doubt he's a crack addict, Sean is just a lazy self absorbed gamer who expects the world owes him something.

innit. I said similar about him renting movies whilst asking people for money and claiming he doesn't have any. that kid is full of crap.

Or maybe it was all made up, the girlfriend was never real, the stories he told about her were how he kept her "alive", it made him feel better, ... and then it got out of hand, a particularly sad story was taken seriously by hale bopp ... and people were sending him money for a plane ticket to go see "her". ... ... ... Aaaaaaaarrrrrrrrrrggggghhhhhhhhh!! ! Short-term steps to keep up pretences became more and more difficult to maintain. ...

NB. Not my idea, but I think it sounds very plausible/possible.
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$670 is what he got total from here?

Maybe he thinks he doesn't have enough money so he hasn't gone yet?

I wonder if he will pull this stunt on other forums?

I loaned $20 to a friend and I never got it back. He said he will eventaully give it to me but he just can't save money because he always spends it. I know now to not ever loan to him again. I usually don't loan money to people but we loan it to someone at work anyway and she always pays us back on payday. Yeah you can't always trust your own friends either.

I had a friend like that too. It's damn annoying when I make sure to pay back people as soon as I can when I still see him spending his extra money on pointless stuff he doesn't really need. He stills owes me quite a bit too.

I doubt it too....but you never know with people. I've known even more unlikely drug addicts (including crack/meth/heroin addicts) than Sean. Maybe he's a sex addict and wanted the six hundred dollars to hire an expensive prostitute Maybe he owes Tony Soprano a gambling debt...lol.

Never loan money to friends. If they need money, you may give it to them, but loans are just asking for the friendship to be broken.

I've given friends money over the years and always been happy with that choice. Some of them have even "given" me the money back

My loans, however, have always turned into frustration.

Hence, A is much much better than B.

My take on it was more his intentions were guenuine at the start, but as soon as he realised how easy it is to get money out of people he doesn't need he became the scumbag he's had the potential to be all along.

I can't believe hes saying he needs more money.

I hope he goes to prision.

I agree with this because if it were a real scam, it would be very unimpressive by almost any standard. The identity of the hypothetical scammer is all over the internet and he got away with...$670? Not the sign of a very intelligent or serious scammer. This would not even count as "small time" in the US.

To hale_bopp and everyone who donated money, you are very kind people and I hope this experience doesn't change your kindness...the world needs more people who were willing to go out of their way to help strangers. We all make mistakes sometimes, and hopefully this didn't set anyone back too much. What matters is learning from the experience and moving on.

very good observation ouinon.

i had been thinking something like that but it was far too nebulous a thought to put into words.

What's the difference between loaning and giving when they need it?

good question. maybe because with a loan, you expect the money back. and with a gift, you don't expect it to be returned? so you don't get mad if they keep it.