Optimism and Reality: Goldfish21 Response to me

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Cube: Why being realistic is delusional: (under 5min vid) https://www.facebook.com/KyleCeasePage/ ... 009567453/

GF, if you don't mind will you please explain what he was trying to get at. I didnt get it and I watched it twice.

You talked about having ethics, so I'm wondering if you paid all that debt back.



Identical or fraternal?

As for studies, they're just that studies. As for your miles of anecdotal stories, they're nothing more than the anecdotal stories of a layperson. They're not any kind of clinical evidence in any way whatsoever.

And unless you can find documented clinical cases where people had a sudden onset of debilitating autism as a fully grown adult due to antibiotics, at best your case is a one in a zillion fluke that doesn't apply to 99.9% of autistics.

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Ezra, your're really smart. At one point did people think you had intellectual disability?

Thanks. From the onset due to being a typical level 3. But then I finally came around a lot more. Which isn't entirely rare. There are at least a couple of current members who have a similar background.

And an interesting thing is there are adults, like a one time WP member, who are severely autistic and intellectually disabled and yet are articulate, knowledgeable and insightful in their writing.

That's awesome considering how rainy and nippy it's been, especially by the water.

Yeah, I've noticed. I think many parents of kids who are labeled as severely autistic would find reason to find optimism and comfort in your story and others. I see young kids like this all the time seemingly playing with items in non-functional ways and believe there is more going on in their heads than a lot of people give them credit for.

How much time was there between the time of the sudden onset of obvious debilitating autism at 29 and the successful treatment of it five years ago? Since you're 35 it seems like basically only a year or less from point A to point B.

And if so how is this a second life deal, rather than getting than just over some sudden condition?

Also how did you manage to get into 110,000$ in debt in such a relatively short span of time?

Probably what I meant is the way you approach and present yourself here. Like refrain from or modify behavior that's gotten you called all those names by all those people for years like obnoxious, arrogant, annoying, crazy etc.



Were you diagnosed by an doctor of internal medicine having those conditions? If so what was the procedure, colonoscopy, mri?



Doesn't ring a bell. It's not something I care about or pine for. Like I probably won't ever become a weed salesman, but I don't care about that either. When it comes to money it's also something I don't care about because I'll always have everything I need and want. Back to the subject of friends, the definition of a friend is someone a person has a close relationship with. Synonyms are soulmate and confidant. And I don't think anyone has dozens of close soulmate relationships. If they did such relationships would become like a dime a dozen and insignificant.




It was a thought stated as a theory and I realize that I might be wrong. You on the other hand state your thoughts as clinical facts and don't seem to consider the possibility you might be wrong or that someone else might be right or even have a valid point.

*sigh*

ENTIRELY missed the point. Completely and utterly over your head. Somehow... this isnt too surprising.

Honestly you're so latched onto this that not only do you not see the damage you could be doing to others, but you see everyone else in a warped light, creating all sorts of assumptions. Did you perhaps notice that I never at any point said whether I believe in what you say or not? That was NOT the point of... absolutely any bloody thing I said. I didnt state that I believe it, and I didnt state that I didnt believe it. Why? Because that's completely irrelevant to the point being made. If I believed it 0%, or if I believed it 100%.... I'd still make the same point.

The point you didnt spot whatsoever, and probably never will.

Considering how often I've seen this happen when reading your conversations... I honestly wonder if the treatment worked as well on you as you seem to think they did.

Well, that's not my problem really. Again, I consider all of that irrelevant. My actual point still stands: Regardless of the nature of the treatment, regardless of what effect it had on YOU, regardless of how it functions, regardless of ANY facts about it.... nobody here should be automatically trying to follow it... period. That's a very, VERY dangerous precedent to set. AND, it doesnt even make logical sense to follow something like that without overwhelming evidence of it's function (but on the internet, ANY evidence should be considered potentially fake, no matter it's source) and without a source of medical authority being the one telling it. Really, it's just dangerous. That you keep pushing it despite that is... not a good thing, sir.

As it is, I made my point, which was summarily missed by you, not surprising. Seeing how persistent Ezra and others have been though... perhaps I dont need to worry too much. Considering such responses, it's unlikely any damage has been done to anyone else yet. Still, the potential for that damage, and you pushing this regardless of that, remains an issue overall.

But, it's not MY issue... I have no intention of involving myself further. If you're incapable of seeing the rather blaringly obvious point I tried to make... further conversation has no function, at least for now.

A good day to you then, sir.

So your life is better than the rest of us and we will live happier, healthier, fuller & more complete lives if we become like you. Funny thing is there's nothing about your life that seems appealing to me. Probably the biggest hesitation people have in considering your treatment is becoming like you. If someone wanted to dissuade people from probiotics and gut health etc, they would want you as the spokesperson for it.

I think Goldfish is a good and smart guy.

If only he weren’t so cock-sure (bad pun).

Seriously, I think you’re an intelligent guy, Goldfish. And a man of decent morals.

But it’s not smart to give an impression of superiority on a forum full of people who get reminded of their alleged social lackings on a daily basis.

WOULD SOMEONE PLEASE PUT THIS THREAD OUT OF ITS MISERY, ALREADY?

I think Goldfish and CubeDemon are actually having a decent discussion.

It has potential. I believe Goldfish and CubeDemon are both coming towards the middle, rather than stay stuck on their positions.

If it was someone like you advertising this stuff kraftie I'm sure a lot more people would be interested. That said I will say no more on the subject. Hopefully.