They plan to delete Asperger from DSM 5

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I'm officially diagnosed with HFA. One of my shrinks said that I have AS. I think that I'll side with the person who diagnosed me.

I prefer the HFA label.

Aren't HFA and AS the same thing?

I'm not sure; I think PDD is a useful diagnosis. I was diagnosed with AS, but I still feel that PDD would be more accurate for me.

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Hey. This isn't PPR, and the point isn't to "prove someone wrong" - if you two need to talk about something off topic, take it privately or elsewhere.

Narcissism is neither excluded from those on the spectrum, or a necessary quality for diagnosis. We're all individuals, despite our shared challenge.


M.

I agree. I know one kid who's diagnosed with PDD. From what I've observed about him, he doesn't quite fit the autism label nor the Asperger's label. I kept wondering what his diagnosis was until his mother told me that he has PDD.

All the real person with Narcistic Personality Disorder are liars, they won't tell you the truth with a straight face.

Don't let the physcologist fool you, I seen real Narcisstic Personality Disorder. I met two of them so far and it becoming a growing number of encounter while going about the internet.

People who were drug addict can almost fit in but they just tell a weak lies.

Remember, even Asperger diagnosed Asperger Syndrome as "Little Professor", I don't believe it have to do with Narcistic Personality Disorder but a social impairment to think that the world is small and easy to conquer within.

I haven't dealt with NPS, but what you describe was a large component of those I have interacted with who were BPD. Were these individuals diagnosed with NPS, self-diagnosed with NPS, or 3rd-party diagnosed with NPS (in this instance, by you)? Narcissism has to do with self love and self-obsession, not deception. While telling falsehoods may be a part of NPS, I don't find anything that indicates that it is as core an element as you describe.


M.

When it comes down to it, I believe aspies should be continued to be diagnosed with AS, that's how it's meant to be.

NO! NO! NO! NONONONONO NO NO NO NO NO NO F*CK NO!! !

They get rid of that then what will I be? Autistic! REALLY. NO OFFENCE TO THOSE HERE WHO ARE. But it's just my school if very aware of autism but not of aspergers. So they know what autism is, but they have a very narrow view of it, which is why they don't know what aspergers is.
And for them, that view is RAIN MAN.
They get rid of that label then I am RAIN MAN. And Im a big ret*d. And my aspie friend their will get more torture than ever and they're gonna call him a ret*d and RAIN MAN.

What's wrong with Rain Man? He ain't a ret*d (even then, what's wrong with being ret*d?). Bullying is bullying no matter what name is attached to it.

Asperger's was originally called Autistic Psychopathy (the latter translates to personality disorder for the most part), so it's not like there's no precedent set for AS to be referred to "autistic" in the least.

That sums up what I thought when I read this thread.

Whats wrong with being autistic ? If people at your school have that attitude to autism then its them who need to be educated
about it ! Aspergers Syndrome is part of the autism spectrum, for example, I fulfill all of criteria for AS but didnt start speaking
till i was 4 so then according to DSM-IV cannot be AS, but rather HFA, or the psychiatrist who diagnosed me prefers to use the term
Autistic Spectrum Disorder of mild to moderate severity ( this is going to be the new terminology used in DSM-V, i think )

Your school should not be allowing bullying like this. Is there some sort of hierarchy in america where AS is seen as ok but other
forms of autism are not ? Terms like AS, ASD and HFA are often used interchangeably in the UK.

In my schools this wasnt a problem as went to special schools, mostly for children with moderate to severe learning difficulties,
autism, Downs Syndrome, epilepsy etc, although back in the 80s many, like myself, did not receive a specific diagnosis in
childhood but still were sent to those schools.

As it turned out, in psychological testing at the age of 14, my IQ turned out to be considerably above average, and even though in my schools i didnt get much of an academic education, or even GCSEs, i graduated from university this past summer as a mature student (my subject was in one of my special interests ) I dont think it would be fair to use the term 'ret*d' for
anyone on the spectrum, even LFA, as their true IQ can often not be known.

It seems to me that this board can be dominated by a lot of ultra-high functioning AS people from america, i dont know if this is due to different diagnostic practises in the USA or just this board seems to attract them or maybe they just post more. ( e.g. it took me quite a long time to compose this post and i,m not always in communicative mood, tend to read rather than post )

People with AS have a chance of becoming NT, unlike the rest of the spectrum, therefore, we should give aspies a chance, we can learn from our mistakes too, wouldn't it be lovely to act NT while you confuse people with saying you're an aspie to shield yourself?

No, I dont want to become like an NT, although i can see that passing for one could be usefull in things like job-interviews. I dont think people with AS can become NT as autism is not curable, there is a different wiring to the brain, however, if they are very mild they can develop enough adaptive skills to pass for NT. Such people may, in fact, be more like the Broader Autism Phenotype than AS to begin with