Stop blaming everything on Mr Aspergers.

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25 Jun 2011, 10:56 am

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Now, this is much better. I'm going to go get some popcorn. :wink:

I've got the extra-large diet coke here.

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25 Jun 2011, 3:55 pm

I don't blame all my problems on my Asperger's, and I doubt everyone here does. I think it works the other way around. People come here mostly to talk about the problems they face in relation to their Asperger's, and many probably keep their posts here mostly autism-related, so the only problems you see are the ones to do with autism and not the rest of that person's problems. We all have entire lives outside of WP that could never entirely be captured in a few posts here. I've shared other problems here completely unrelated to my autism, but I mostly talk about stuff linked with my autism because that's what I joined this community for in the first place. I'm probably not the only one who came here hoping to find a place to talk out the autism-related problems and get coping ideas or share ideas with others.

There may be some people who blame their autism for everything, I'm not saying those people don't exist because I don't know, but I myself have come across few people here who do that. Just my own experience so far.

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25 Jun 2011, 4:14 pm

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Hi Verdandi,

If the Asperger's Syndrome is genetic, "EVERY celluar PART of a person with the Syndrome IS the product of the Asperger's Syndrome".

Asperger's is correlated with gifted or higher IQ, to the extent that without artificial abstract constructs, it is next to impossible to differentiate a "gifted child" from the "gifted Asperger's Syndrome child" using empirical evidence (the hard science empirical evidence reveals no differences). The Law of Variances comes into play because of the greater expanse of standard deviations of Asperger's IQs, where with Binet's tests, very high IQs are disproportionately identified with Asperger's (Ioan James' book speculates this too, with many (20) (to most?) top famous geniuses). Gifted merges are at: http://www.davidsongifted.org/db/Articles_id_10167.aspx and http://www.homeschooldiner.com/specials ... rs_2E.html
An older paper (but not old enough to avoid DSM-IV) on "Validity and Neuropsychological Characterization of Asperger Syndrome" that's being "defined away" is at: http://www.aspaonline.net/upload/Validi ... 5B1%5D.pdf with http://www.iqcomparisonsite.com/IQtable.aspx
Older references are sometimes more available through Ngrams: http://ngrams.googlelabs.com/graph?cont ... moothing=3

The State Rehab told me I was too disabled for rehab services, the Federal courts told me I wasn't disabled enough under the Rehab Act/ADA, and the U.S. Supreme Court finds it humorously, and probably criminal without exonerating evidence, that a person can be SSDI/SSI disabled by statutory guidelines, yet claim to be otherwise quailified for gainful activities with reasonable accommodation. The self-contradictory burden and negative prejudice is placed on the ADA protected individual by the institutions doing the "protection". The Supreme Court told me to go to hell, but I did get my SSI, but no job and no rehab because of the Catch-22 of my being in the top 3% of the top 25%, and in the bottom 3% of the bottom 10%.

I like the satirical "suck it up" cartoon at: http://www.nytimes.com/imagepages/2010/ ... nimgC.html and the obit: http://www.nytimes.com/2010/07/28/arts/ ... lahan.html

Hi OldManTime,

Could you explain your viewpoint on IQ BS to the Federal judge who just deprived you of a good job because your higher than normal IQ "disqualified" you (125 versus 104)??? http://www.thisistrue.com/to_protect_an ... _6657.html and http://nyletterpress.wordpress.com/2008 ... telligent/

The "juicy details" you missed is in your induction that is like, since a person's heart has been beating since the start of life, their heart will beat forever, if they don't give in and let it stop. Only the two "Yes" and "No" distinctions gives the question: "If you visit Lake Disappointment in Australia to verify your firm belief that it is the world's most aptly named landmark, will you be disappointed?", or Smullyan's citation of "Will you answer no to this question?" http://books.google.com/books?id=9SyyUO ... se&f=false
It happens with government agencies also, in fact, it gave birth to "Catch-22" by Joseph Heller. The judges often determine who gets the money.

actually, genes are effected by environment. a certain genetic code may function just find with the right environmental input. also, there's the whole epigenetics thing that i don't really understand.

also, can you explain your post here? i haven't kept up with the thread and don't understand your post fully.

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26 Jun 2011, 5:57 pm

Dark_Lord_2008 wrote:

I freely chose Asperger lifestyle and I embrace it as my religion. Aspergers makes me, me. I am so sick and tired of the Eugenicists wanting to cure or treat Aspergers. Having Aspergers is cool and I am a true believer in Aspergers.

OOOOhhhh - you got to choose, lucky beggar. I just got presented with Asperger's at birth (secretly) and when I discovered I had it fifty years later, found it was non returnable and non refundable.

By the way, you do seem to say the daftest things. Am I right in presuming you just crave attention, any attention?

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26 Jun 2011, 7:29 pm

Dark_Lord_2008 wrote:

I am so sick and tired of people blaming it on Mr Aspergers for their own self created problems in their sad pathetic life.
Take responsibility for your own actions, decisions and choices you have made in life.
When you blame Aspergers it feels like you are blaming me or other innocent people with Aspergers for your own failures in life.

My last name is Aspergers and I hate being blamed for your problems.

Your last name is Aspergers and you feel like you are being blamed just because of the coincidence?

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26 Jun 2011, 10:55 pm

In regards to mild Autism/High Functioning Autism aka Aspergers Syndrome it is not that bad if you have mild or moderate Aspergers. However severe Aspergers when a person has sensory problems as well as a lack of communication skills life can be very difficult. In most cases having Aspergers is manageable and people learn to cope with their Aspergers.

Blaming all your problems in life on Aspergers Syndrome is a weak cop out. Weak people do not last long in a world that is based on survival of the fittest/strongest (Social Darwinism). Over time natural selection results in only the strongest surviving.

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26 Jun 2011, 10:57 pm

Still not even trying. :roll:

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26 Jun 2011, 10:58 pm

So your name is not Mr Aspergers. You are just talking for Mr Aspergers? His name is Mr Asperger, btw, or Herr Asperger.

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27 Jun 2011, 8:52 am

Some do this on Deviant art to make others slather pity on them.

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28 Jun 2011, 2:22 am

Aspergers start off being a victim of bullies: larger/older kids pick on the smaller kid with Asperger. Asperger kid grows bigger and he/she may end up becoming a bully picking on smaller kids. Big bullies and small victims.

Aspergers victims become Asperger bullies. The vicious cycle of violence Victim to Bully continues. The victims and the bullies may also have Aspergers/ADD or other behavioural problems that makes people prone to violence and anti-social criminal behaviour.

Aspergers being rejected by peers, picked last in sports and socially excluded are being bullied non-physically without realising it. Rejection/social exclusion hurts a lot more than physical/verbal bullying.

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28 Jun 2011, 12:16 pm

ooOoOoOAnaOoOoOoo wrote:

So your name is not Mr Aspergers. You are just talking for Mr Aspergers? His name is Mr Asperger, btw, or Herr Asperger.

His name is Olaf Asperger. :wink:

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28 Jun 2011, 12:27 pm

Dark_Lord_2008 wrote:

Aspergers start off being a victim of bullies: larger/older kids pick on the smaller kid with Asperger. Asperger kid grows bigger and he/she may end up becoming a bully picking on smaller kids. Big bullies and small victims.

Aspergers victims become Asperger bullies. The vicious cycle of violence Victim to Bully continues. The victims and the bullies may also have Aspergers/ADD or other behavioural problems that makes people prone to violence and anti-social criminal behaviour. or other behavioural problems that makes people prone to violence and anti-social criminal behaviour.

Aspergers being rejected by peers, picked last in sports and socially excluded are being bullied non-physically without realising it. Rejection/social exclusion hurts a lot more than physical/verbal bullying.

I get it now. You hold your breath until nearly pass out then you write down whatever crap pops into your oxygen deprived brain.

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28 Jun 2011, 12:39 pm

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ooOoOoOAnaOoOoOoo wrote:

So your name is not Mr Aspergers. You are just talking for Mr Aspergers? His name is Mr Asperger, btw, or Herr Asperger.

His name is Olaf Asperger. :wink:

He did make it sound like his last name is Aspergers and he felt like he was being blamed for people's problem in his original post. I found it kinda confusing.

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29 Jun 2011, 9:08 pm

(Insert any failure/mistake/error) Aspergers made me do that.

Aspergers is used by some as the ultimate Defence and Get out of jail free card. I do not have to fully accept responsibility for my actions. My Aspergers is to blame for that. oops Aspergers made me do it.

It would be a joke if someone was to tell a police officer or a judge that Aspergers made them break the law and they did not know or can not remember doing the alleged crime. I believe Aspergers is either a mental illness or a neurological impairment? Either way an Asperger would not be fully responsible for his/her own actions.

Black out, full memory loss when Aspergers takes over a person's mind and body and makes them do something without thinking through the consequences. Aspergers experiencing a psychotic episode and you can not remember what happened. Aspergers and being possessed by demons, transforms a normal person into a psychopath zombie.

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29 Jun 2011, 9:22 pm

Dark_Lord_2008 wrote:

I thought it was more like aspergers causes people to come off as 'socially akward' and thus leads to the bullying...and yes some who are bullied become bullies, though I myself am now 21 and still have not and do not desire to become a bully or anything like that. But I can only speak for myself.

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30 Jun 2011, 10:33 am

The Self Diagnosed Aspie may wear their self diagnosis as a Badge of Honour. Aspergers now clearly defines this person's life. Hip, hip hooray. ZOMG! Now out in the open they can use Aspergers as an excuse for being a jerk to everyone. ROFL

Aspergers makes them a thoughtless, unemotional creature who can not feel any empathy towards others. hehe

Aspergers allows them to say and do whatever they want and never be held accountable for their actions. Aspergers is their ultimate ace card and they can always cry discrimination and play the victim card. Win, win.

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