Is not finding babies cute an Aspie trait?

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23 Feb 2012, 5:57 pm

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I don't find human babies cute at all. I don't even want to be around them, they smell, scream and cry. But, of course, baby animals are cute.


This.

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I'm willing to bet that if you guys who say you don't find babies cute were given a baby to take care of that you couldn't find someone else to baby-sit, you would still take care of said baby, and eventually start to find the baby appealing. I don't know whether you would find the baby cute, per se, but you would start to bond with it. Finding the baby cute isn't nearly as important as having the desire to protect the baby. You can look at a baby, see a wrinkled little ratlike creature, and still care about its well-being.


You're probably right. Although I wouldn't ever take care of a baby at this point in my life.


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23 Feb 2012, 6:22 pm

Callista wrote:
During and right after pregnancy, there's a mental switch that flips that tells you "This is my baby; I should take care of them".

I'm willing to bet that if you guys who say you don't find babies cute were given a baby to take care of that you couldn't find someone else to baby-sit, you would still take care of said baby, and eventually start to find the baby appealing. I don't know whether you would find the baby cute, per se, but you would start to bond with it. Finding the baby cute isn't nearly as important as having the desire to protect the baby. You can look at a baby, see a wrinkled little ratlike creature, and still care about its well-being.


I had one and didn't feel that.

If someone tried to stick me with a baby to watch I'd absolutely refuse.

Anyone that would leave a baby with me would be a bad parent. I won't do disgusting things like change the diaper and I don't want to hear it screaming or hold it.



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23 Feb 2012, 6:29 pm

Callista wrote:
I'm willing to bet that if you guys who say you don't find babies cute were given a baby to take care of that you couldn't find someone else to baby-sit, you would still take care of said baby, and eventually start to find the baby appealing. I don't know whether you would find the baby cute, per se, but you would start to bond with it. Finding the baby cute isn't nearly as important as having the desire to protect the baby. You can look at a baby, see a wrinkled little ratlike creature, and still care about its well-being.


Possibly, but I hope I'll never have to find out



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23 Feb 2012, 10:34 pm

I never thought of it this way before, but maybe it's a good thing I can't tell a cute baby/child from an ugly one. If I ever had to take care of one or more, I wouldn't discriminate in favor of a pretty one because I find all babies a little intimidating and not very attractive.
And I have to admit, a baby or child might win me over, over time. I always found affenpinchers ugly until I met one with a neat personality, so maybe the same thing might happen with a baby. I dunno!! !



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23 Feb 2012, 11:09 pm

hanyo wrote:
Callista wrote:
During and right after pregnancy, there's a mental switch that flips that tells you "This is my baby; I should take care of them".

I'm willing to bet that if you guys who say you don't find babies cute were given a baby to take care of that you couldn't find someone else to baby-sit, you would still take care of said baby, and eventually start to find the baby appealing. I don't know whether you would find the baby cute, per se, but you would start to bond with it. Finding the baby cute isn't nearly as important as having the desire to protect the baby. You can look at a baby, see a wrinkled little ratlike creature, and still care about its well-being.


I had one and didn't feel that.

If someone tried to stick me with a baby to watch I'd absolutely refuse.

Anyone that would leave a baby with me would be a bad parent. I won't do disgusting things like change the diaper and I don't want to hear it screaming or hold it.
Perhaps your absolute refusal to be stuck with a baby is a good thing, then. If you know you couldn't take care of one, then in a way, refusing to keep a baby is a very smart thing, and in a roundabout way, you're protecting the child by making sure it's taken care of by people who actually want to do so. Thankfully we humans are social creatures and quite willing to raise each others' children when a parent can't. Adoption is a wonderful thing.

BTW: Now I'm curious... Your own child? A sibling? A friend's child? How long did it take before you knew you weren't cut out to take care of kids?


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24 Feb 2012, 12:41 am

I don't particularly find "whole" babies cute (though I more or less act as if I did), but I love baby hands! (Whenever I see babies, I test their palm grasp reflex the whole time.)



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24 Feb 2012, 12:56 am

Callista wrote:
Neurologically, you aren't really wired to find babies cute until you interact with babies. During and right after pregnancy, there's a mental switch that flips that tells you "This is my baby; I should take care of them". People who aren't moms, but who interact with babies, also start to gradually like babies more. It's natural--we're wired to protect and raise the next generation. True of guys as well as girls, because humans in general have a pair-bonding/group social structure.

I'm willing to bet that if you guys who say you don't find babies cute were given a baby to take care of that you couldn't find someone else to baby-sit, you would still take care of said baby, and eventually start to find the baby appealing. I don't know whether you would find the baby cute, per se, but you would start to bond with it. Finding the baby cute isn't nearly as important as having the desire to protect the baby. You can look at a baby, see a wrinkled little ratlike creature, and still care about its well-being.



Apparently that isn't true for them all. I think some people are born without that maternal instinct because it's never there. Lot of childfree folks are like that and those who have been around babies never bonded with them nor enjoyed taking care of it. I have always liked babies, even when I was a toddler. I can remember when my brother was born. Then I remember being excited when my parents took him home with us. I thought that was where they got him, from the hospital.



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24 Feb 2012, 1:24 am

I had children. I remember my first, a boy. I was surprised to find him very beautiful. So I thought “OK : I guess it is the parental instinct written in our genes to ensure the survival of the species”. In spite of that, I still had the impression that, if he was not my child, I would still find this one cute. So I couldn't say. So I was only half surprised when, at the hospital's nursery, when the nurse brought our child near the glass, other parents came to see ours, then told other parents “Did you see this one?” so all parents were looking at our son instead of their baby. This confirmed to me that my impression was not only due to my being a parent of this child. And I found somewhat ironic that, after that, parents and visitors kept on saying to each others about their babies “Is he cute!” : so far it's OK but I could not agree when they kept on “He's the cutest I've ever seen!" although a few minutes or hours ago they left him or her to come see ours.

Many years later, I had a daughter. She was not bad looking but the parents did not leave their children to come and see that one. It is only two months later that I found a beauty in this child : the way she was looking at me, especially in the night when she did not sleep. (There was a night light.) She gave me the impression there was something very deep inside, an unusual talent, an unsuspected potential. Now, decades later, this perceptiveness proves exact : she does have an unusual potential. No, she is not aspie. Between her and me it is a love story.

Although it hasn't always been...

So, to me, being cute is only a superficial aspect of a baby : being connected to an inner spiritual source of potential and intelligence makes this baby much more beautiful to me than cuteness. Some children I met I found so fascinating due to that type of beauty that twice, I was suspected of pedophilia ; some others, when their parents ask me “Ain't she cute?”, the less impolite answer I can find is “Beauty is in the eye of the beholder”.



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24 Feb 2012, 3:20 am

Callista wrote:

BTW: Now I'm curious... Your own child? A sibling? A friend's child? How long did it take before you knew you weren't cut out to take care of kids?


I'm an only child. I only had one friend that had a baby and didn't see it too much when it was little. We usually hung out when the baby was with the father. I didn't have much contact with infants in my life and I liked it that way.

I think I knew I didn't want one at least since puberty and once gave birth myself and still knew I didn't want kids and gave it up for adoption. I was young and careless then. I was only 16 when I got pregnant. Now I'm more responsible and that would never happen again, plus I don't have sex.



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24 Feb 2012, 2:37 pm

Callista wrote:
Neurologically, you aren't really wired to find babies cute until you interact with babies. During and right after pregnancy, there's a mental switch that flips that tells you "This is my baby; I should take care of them".


Yes, it's a primal instinct to ensure survival of the species (with a personal interest in passing on one's own genes). But I wonder how much of the bonding instinct is due to the hormone oxytocin which ASD people typically have less of for the same reason we have significantly fewer mirror neurons. So much so that oxytocin is one of the new fads in research for treating classic autism and Post-Traumatic Stress Disorder.



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24 Feb 2012, 8:00 pm

On a slightly different tangent- then the " my baby is the most beautiful in the world" syndrome. A woman at work has entered her kid inan online baby pagent where people vote on your kids looks. It was shut down last year because their were so many malicious comments. But she's doing it again this year - and is sending out emails and badgering people to vote for her kid.. Personally I think if you slap your kid's photo on a public website and ask people to comment you deserve what you get



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24 Feb 2012, 8:27 pm

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25 Feb 2012, 9:43 am

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25 Feb 2012, 10:06 am

i am not interested in babies. they smell of a sickly milky smell that i find nauseating.
babies are cared for by their parents and that is well, and i have no desire to interact with them.



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25 Feb 2012, 10:22 am

I don't really like children and won't be having any of my own. I do find some babies to be cute and I don't vomit on sight or anything...I'd just prefer not to have to spend a lot of time with them.



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25 Feb 2012, 10:43 am

Noisy smelly things that I avoid in real life. If wailing on TV a cause for changing channel.


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