Autism and Sexuality: Are They Related?
Mysty wrote:
CrazyCatLord wrote:
The term "sexuality" refers to all things sexual, including biological sex and sexual behavior. The term that you are looking for is sexual orientation (and transsexuality is not a sexual orientation btw. Transsexuals are either hetero, gay, bi, poly/omnisexual, or asexual like everybody else).
Not really. If you said transsexuals are either attracted to women, men, or both, or neither, just like everyone else, I'd agree.
But the heterosexual and homosexual labels require one's own gender/sex to be easily and simply defined, and so, it seems to me, don't really fit for a transsexual unless they've first clearly defined their gender/sex as male or female.
In other words, their sexuality is the same as non-transsexuals, but the usual labels don't fit as easily.
No it is easy to identify the sexual orientation of a transsexual, it is based on the gender they are BORN with. Have a Y chromosome then you are a man when it comes to sexual orientation. Simple as that.
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DVCal wrote:
For accuracy purposes someone who born a man, becomes a "woman", and are attracted to men, should select either select homosexual or bisexual (if also attracted to women).
Same is true for someone born a woman, if you are born a woman, become a "man", and are attracted to women, you are not straight
Same is true for someone born a woman, if you are born a woman, become a "man", and are attracted to women, you are not straight
And who are you to tell people what they should catagorize themselves as? I think if someone physically female identifies as male or has a sex change and are attracted to females they could say they are straight....because they had a sex change because they are actually male and born with the wrong body so to speak.
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DVCal wrote:
Mysty wrote:
CrazyCatLord wrote:
The term "sexuality" refers to all things sexual, including biological sex and sexual behavior. The term that you are looking for is sexual orientation (and transsexuality is not a sexual orientation btw. Transsexuals are either hetero, gay, bi, poly/omnisexual, or asexual like everybody else).
Not really. If you said transsexuals are either attracted to women, men, or both, or neither, just like everyone else, I'd agree.
But the heterosexual and homosexual labels require one's own gender/sex to be easily and simply defined, and so, it seems to me, don't really fit for a transsexual unless they've first clearly defined their gender/sex as male or female.
In other words, their sexuality is the same as non-transsexuals, but the usual labels don't fit as easily.
No it is easy to identify the sexual orientation of a transsexual, it is based on the gender they are BORN with. Have a Y chromosome then you are a man when it comes to sexual orientation. Simple as that.
That's ONE way to look at it. Not the only.
These are human words. We create them and decide what they mean. We define the borders of what the words mean. And we aren't necessarily all going to agree with regards to the fuzzy boundaries, including how these terms apply to transgender people.
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DVCal wrote:
Mysty wrote:
CrazyCatLord wrote:
The term "sexuality" refers to all things sexual, including biological sex and sexual behavior. The term that you are looking for is sexual orientation (and transsexuality is not a sexual orientation btw. Transsexuals are either hetero, gay, bi, poly/omnisexual, or asexual like everybody else).
Not really. If you said transsexuals are either attracted to women, men, or both, or neither, just like everyone else, I'd agree.
But the heterosexual and homosexual labels require one's own gender/sex to be easily and simply defined, and so, it seems to me, don't really fit for a transsexual unless they've first clearly defined their gender/sex as male or female.
In other words, their sexuality is the same as non-transsexuals, but the usual labels don't fit as easily.
No it is easy to identify the sexual orientation of a transsexual, it is based on the gender they are BORN with. Have a Y chromosome then you are a man when it comes to sexual orientation. Simple as that.
man isn't a sexual orientation, nor is it listed in the poll.
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Sweetleaf wrote:
DVCal wrote:
Mysty wrote:
CrazyCatLord wrote:
The term "sexuality" refers to all things sexual, including biological sex and sexual behavior. The term that you are looking for is sexual orientation (and transsexuality is not a sexual orientation btw. Transsexuals are either hetero, gay, bi, poly/omnisexual, or asexual like everybody else).
Not really. If you said transsexuals are either attracted to women, men, or both, or neither, just like everyone else, I'd agree.
But the heterosexual and homosexual labels require one's own gender/sex to be easily and simply defined, and so, it seems to me, don't really fit for a transsexual unless they've first clearly defined their gender/sex as male or female.
In other words, their sexuality is the same as non-transsexuals, but the usual labels don't fit as easily.
No it is easy to identify the sexual orientation of a transsexual, it is based on the gender they are BORN with. Have a Y chromosome then you are a man when it comes to sexual orientation. Simple as that.
man isn't a sexual orientation, nor is it listed in the poll.
No, but you have define if you are a man or a woman in order to know if liking women makes you homosexual or heterosexual. DVCal is giving an opinion on how transsexuals should determine that.
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Mysty wrote:
No, but you have define if you are a man or a woman in order to know if liking women makes you homosexual or heterosexual. DVCal is giving an opinion on how transsexuals should determine that.
I can't imagine how a post op mtf having intercourse with a man is anything but straight. According to them if you were born a man it's still gay.
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Mysty wrote:
Sweetleaf wrote:
DVCal wrote:
Mysty wrote:
CrazyCatLord wrote:
The term "sexuality" refers to all things sexual, including biological sex and sexual behavior. The term that you are looking for is sexual orientation (and transsexuality is not a sexual orientation btw. Transsexuals are either hetero, gay, bi, poly/omnisexual, or asexual like everybody else).
Not really. If you said transsexuals are either attracted to women, men, or both, or neither, just like everyone else, I'd agree.
But the heterosexual and homosexual labels require one's own gender/sex to be easily and simply defined, and so, it seems to me, don't really fit for a transsexual unless they've first clearly defined their gender/sex as male or female.
In other words, their sexuality is the same as non-transsexuals, but the usual labels don't fit as easily.
No it is easy to identify the sexual orientation of a transsexual, it is based on the gender they are BORN with. Have a Y chromosome then you are a man when it comes to sexual orientation. Simple as that.
man isn't a sexual orientation, nor is it listed in the poll.
No, but you have define if you are a man or a woman in order to know if liking women makes you homosexual or heterosexual. DVCal is giving an opinion on how transsexuals should determine that.
Well who is he to tell transsexuals how they should determine their sexuality? some of them actually uhh basically identify as the opposite gender. So for instance, insisting a male to female transexual identify as a male so that they can define their sexuality the way someone else wants is actually rude if anything.
I am of the opinion if one identifies as female, and is attracted to females........they can consider them-self a lesbian if they want to. If they are more of the type of guy who just likes to dress as a female sometimes but does not nessisarily identify as one and is attracted to females, it might make more sense for them to consider them self straight.
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