Who is against a cure for Aspergers?

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03 Feb 2013, 1:49 am

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Are any of you who are against a cure getting government aid, such as housing vouxcher , or SSI? If so, shame on you, do you want to be a drain on society, don't you want to be a productive member of society?

That's ridiculous.

A "cure" would mean a fundamental change in neurology. Fundamentally changing a person's neurology is like replacing the original person with someone different.

There is nothing wrong with wanting to continue to exist.

Shame on you for suggesting that there is.

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03 Feb 2013, 3:30 am

matt wrote:

DVCal wrote:

exactly.

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12 Feb 2013, 5:07 pm

i am against a cure for Aspergers because aspies are special,honest`creative and intelegent people.Why would we want to be a NT?I don`t want.I am proud of myself like I am.NT people are generally horrible.Aspies will change the word.

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12 Feb 2013, 11:10 pm

Why would anyone want to not be themselves?

Wouldn't most NTs be opposed to a cure for NTism?

How many women would want to be cured of being women?

How many blacks would want to bleach themselves white (ignoring the fact that MJ did try to do this)?

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13 Feb 2013, 10:14 am

TTRSage wrote:

The answer to all those questions is those that are curious. Some people would want to know what it's like to think in a completely different way and essentially be a different person. The single perspective we all have is so narrow. Wouldn't it be nice to see things from multiple perspectives to a greater extent than what you can get with your imagination alone?

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13 Feb 2013, 10:38 am

i dont think so, ive been autistic all my life, it would be so weird to all the sudden not be, besides i think i should like myself even though i have a neurological developmental disorder.

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13 Feb 2013, 1:01 pm

seaturtleisland wrote:

Wouldn't it be nice to see things from multiple perspectives to a greater extent than what you can get with your imagination alone?

That's only a lame excuse to avoid reality. The grass is always greener on the other side. But once you get there, you realize that it is not so green after all. There are many Twilight Zone and Hitchcock stories of people who suddenly got that wish to be on the other side, only to find out what a nightmare it really is and that they were far better off to begin with as themselves.

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13 Feb 2013, 3:16 pm

TTRSage wrote:

seaturtleisland wrote:

Wouldn't it be nice to see things from multiple perspectives to a greater extent than what you can get with your imagination alone?

If you want red grass it's a whole different story. Why does a person's motivation for making such a wish always have to be that they think it would be better? What if they don't care if it's better they just want something different? Can't someone just want variety?

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13 Feb 2013, 3:22 pm

I am indifferent because I am not sure what a cure would entail.
Unless we are talking about a few decades in the future when we have nanobots that can rewire the autistic brain one neuron at a time.

This is a developmental disorder with physical abnormalities in brain structure. At best we could hope for medication that helps the symptoms. I am all for medication that masks the symptoms. I would like to talk more spontaneously.

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12 Sep 2017, 7:06 pm

You have to be carefull. The *only* reason given for a cure is so an Aspie can fit in with society. I am not seeing anyone claim there is some sort of brain damage or brain malfunction. It seems the cure that is being sought after is a way to get an NT off your back. Imagine if an NT praised your abilities, would you still be looking for a cure?

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12 Sep 2017, 8:40 pm

I would rather have a cure for social anxiety and depression.

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13 Sep 2017, 5:24 am

If it were truly voluntary I would be for that. I do not expect that to be the case when a cure is found. Children and teenagers will not have a choice. Adults might not be legally forced but if they refuse the cure they will be viewed as mentally sick or stupid or both and stigmatized and seperated from society accordingly.

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13 Sep 2017, 5:52 am

BettaPonic wrote:

I would rather have a cure for social anxiety and depression.

Exactly!

I like this comparison: being an aspie is like being redhead. It is not a disease. Those stupid little jerks at school that laugh because you're different - they need to change. Not you, even if you are tempted to use coloring shampoo to gain acceptance.
But if you are redhead, it is likely that you get sunburn in conditions other people don't even tan. That could need treatment. You need more sunscreen than others. Coloring your hair wouldn't change this.
If there was a social "sunscreen" protecting me from harm, I would be glad to use it. Without really rewiring by brain to fit some "norms".

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13 Sep 2017, 5:56 am

magz wrote:

BettaPonic wrote:

I would rather have a cure for social anxiety and depression.

Its not a comparison. Depression and social anxiety cripple my life many times more.

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13 Sep 2017, 6:30 am

I would want help for my anxiety as well. I would consider anxiety and panic attacks my main problems associated with Asperger's. I would want a cure for a certain medical problem I have.

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13 Sep 2017, 4:35 pm

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I'm just curious if my hypothesis holds true that opposition to the possibility of Aspergers cure/treatment is primarily a male phenomenon, based on studies which show that females with HFA/Aspergers try harder to cope and, as a whole, develop better coping strategies for "fitting in" with NT expectations than do males who had the same level of functionality as children. My theory is that high-functioning autistic women, as a whole, have a greater desire to change themselves than do autistic men, as a whole, and so would be more likely to fall into the "curebie" category.

I'm separating out transsexuals from their identified gender just because they have had experience living as another gender and so may have adopted attitudes from that gender, thus throwing off the results.

Disclosure: I am an HFA male who is strongly in favor of a cure -- and of making an effort to fit into NT society generally.

It can no more be cured than blacks can be cured of black skin. A cure isnt the my issue. My issue is in utero genetic tests for autism. You can bet that if they are developed, abortion will become a favored method of murdering us.

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