The Universe does not revolve around the autistic community

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ha ha,,,learned this lesson when slowing down a few transactions to a crawl so I could tell various physicists who were in the middle of making a purchase from my business about my grand unified theory:-)...a little difficult to explain that one, but just keep listening if you please...and this is just one of the special interests i did it with... won't go into details about the earwax tastes like ginseng which is how primitive people built up their immune systems-- by licking their earwax.....

but on another note, brainstorming CAN save the world....

Special relativity is not particularly controversial.

All of the links I posted have multiple iterations from different sources, so it's not hard to find one you might have heard of.

The thing about media reporting is that it tends to sensationalize things. Research finds that autistic people's brains don't change certain kinds of activity while actively doing something or doing nothing whereas NT brains do change said activity. Media reports this means autistic people can't daydream - and the research doesn't even address daydreaming.

So who else is doing this besides media? No one autistic, right?:-)

Context is important. Passive-aggression is a waste of everyone's time.

I just imagined that said in a really deadpan voice, and it was the funniest thing I've come across today.

That's pretty much how I talk, so excellent.

The reason I said this is that many autistic people ARE doing it. It is pretty obvious to me, and I have seen myself doing it, too. Talking about the media in this instance is to me somewhat akin to posting a string of cat pictures, though the cat pictures are cuter. It is a lot easier than looking at oneself while trying to sort out some difficult idea concepts. Changing an uncomfortable subject that may have some kind of truth by calling someone else passive aggressive is the same kind of thing, a ploy to not look at a certain idea set because what one sees may not be comfortable. Of course what he's saying may not be true,but he's trying to communicate something that he sees, so there has to be something there.

The op's communication style is kind of fuzzy and I cannot even say it is not intentional, as some people I have encoutered on the web actually deliberately use obfuscation as a communication technique, though I am against doing that for reasons I will not go into now, but he did manage to communicate with me and is saying something kind of interesting. The megalomaniac part was especially difficult, but I am starting to get what he is trying to communicate. The general consensus among people seems to be that they are not getting much of anything from participating except that they think he is wrong, but I think he is saying something.

OP wrote:

That train stuff sounds to me as if it could be taken allegorically, though others may not be able to see it that way. Sorry if some may not be interested in looking at tnemselves, but I looked at myself to see if what he wrote could have some truth in it. I find this person's communication style to be quite sophisticated. Sometimes 'fuzzy' helps people sort things out. Then you have to look very deeply to find something. That is how listening touches an inner dimension where things become reconnected with the outside world. How come I got a lot out of it and no one else did (as far as I can tell from what people are writing)?

What does this make me, some kind of freak? I looked at myself and saw stuff about myself and this changed my brain. When I say something changed my brain, I am saying that my brain is different now, nothing vague. but I if really focus I can identify different areas of the brain which are working differently. A certain area around not a particular special interest but around having special interests is now wired differently to other brain areas. This lets the light in better, meaning literally physical light. That is new after yesterday, but previous to this when I tried to understand the part about ego, the way I am perceiving objects is now different, which is something I have been working toward for a long time. Objects are perceived to be more solid (but without identification, without sucking me into them along with triggering various draining thoughts, feelings and unconscious associations about anything and everything. There is a foundation and a stability which is very simple and very comforting.. I am back on my my home star, Sirius, and yet on earth, too. It will probably flicker in and out, but I can remember.

You should not dismiss an opportunity to understand something in a new way as someone else being passive aggressive. That is a ploy you learned to discount someone elses idea material you disagree with and only look at things the way you want to see them or maybe need to see them. What you said about the media, autistic people do, too. This is not to say the media does not do it, or anyone, but you are missing a generative field to hoe and plant that will give lots of wonderful food when you are only looking outside yourself and trying to fix the world.

Imo if a person really IS autistic, then he may be missing seeing something about himself and the world because he is autistic, or at least I am. It is not that I was just born this way and other people should accept me. Other people can think this way if they want, but to me it is a shabby way to go through life.

And please do not imply I took precious time out of a very interesting life rich with sound, light and color and loving relationships and all kinds of possibility on a wonderful joyful day to write and edit and fine-tune this message because I am passive aggressive.

Don't confuse an unwillingness to discuss anything with you to be an unwillingness to discuss a particular topic.

All that pseudo analysis you wrote is all about you. You can deal with it or not, just don't expect me to join you or believe that it has anything relevant to me.

I said you were passive-aggressive because you didn't say what you meant outright. You instead chose to beg the question.

Verdandi, don't go there. You know what she's doing, don't bite!

No worries there. I see it.

Saving you a seat.

I'm not involved with the OP's discussion. I just made a post about science news that was interesting to me, at which point the Infinite Derailing Vortex started screaming for attention. Again.

Thanks Verdandi, passive-aggressive is exactly what he is.
I'm wondering if I can make any headway into his attitude problems. So far nobody in this thread has made a dent on him. (His profile says he's male).

You're speaking generally, but you also keep correcting people for speaking generally or about themselves specifically.

We know very well that we have to fit into the world as best we can. What is your point? Do you have any point other than constantly correcting us, only to generalise once again?



This is insulting, belittling and derogatory. You are an angry person. Though I don't know what happened that caused you sign up to this board to tell us how to act, how to think, and what we should talk about.


Exhibit A; You are telling us how we should act, and how our talking "should" be taken by others.


I laughed out loud at this one. Just a couple posts previous you were telling us about using Wiki as a reliable reference.

Myrtonos, the way you doggedly stick to your opinions in this thread, never conceding a point or giving an inch, is to me at least, exactly what you are accusing us of doing....

I wasn't referring to Myrtonos, and I don't think he's being passive aggressive. I don't think there's much room for discussion with him. No point in arguing with dogma.

Variation on a theme?

Yes, Verdandi was speaking about me, and it should be pointed out that calling someone passive aggressive is an out personal attack and a convenient way to dismiss idea material that is too difficult to process or that one does not want to process, and in short to dismiss anything and everything another person is trying to communicate. Anytime they disagree with you or try make any kind of point, just label them as passive aggressive.

But as far as ideas go, no one can stop you from thinking and using any kind of idea material to learn about yourself. Is anybody here besides me even looking at what the op in saying in terms of their own behavior? I am very curious. Why do people not want to look at their special interests especially since it is considered to be a pronounced characteristic of being autistic? Yesterday I sold a product to a woman visiting from another city and at the end of the transaction I started telling her about one of my special interests. First she was really interested but then I could see she was getting very cold as she was not dressed appropriately like me, but I just kept talking. Why? What made that so important to me that I did not care if someone else was cold? What is the difference between having really smart, creative ideas and interests and needing to communicate them and simply being oneself? This is not to suggest that a person should not have these interests such as autism activism or trains or social science or whatever, but there is a subtle difference. And this is not to suggest that communication and sharing ideas is not important, also.

I still have this snapshot in my mind of myself knowing she was cold and talking on for another minute before I said----you look like you're cold, which released her to go.....that is a very interesting picture to look at-- what I was feeling in that moment when I knew she was cold and still kept talking...to me it has more value than looking at the picture of a cat....

Here it is presumably different. This venue is set up to discuss various ideas and communicate, but in some ways it does mirror life, also, as people want to form communities and try to leave others out by labeling them, stigmatizing them, whatever, but if you agree with the ideas (or lack of ideas) of those who are stigmatizing, then you are in. That is human behavior, but I would be ashamed to do it. Interesting that so many complain about others doing it to them, and yet they do it to others in the exact same way. But you can observe your own responses if it is happening to you or even if you are the one doing it but not consciously aware, and so become more aware. That will separate the men from the boys, not whether a person is nt or autistic.