If your aspies was curable, would u cure it?

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Would You Cure You Aspies?
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No 57%  57%  [ 60 ]
Sometimes 19%  19%  [ 20 ]
I wish I never had it in the first place! 14%  14%  [ 15 ]
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19 May 2007, 8:22 am

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People with HFA tend to not have the "gifts" as people with AS, in other words, they are usually of NT intelligence or under (IQ of 90 or under).

That is not any definition of "HFA" I've ever heard before, and I've heard a lot.

I've also never read anything like that. This is more common: The difference between Asperger syndrome and high-functioning autism is that individuals with Asperger syndrome don't have a language delay. In autism, single words aren't acquired before two years of age. Although there is some consensus in the scientific community that the absence of language delay criterion for AS should be eliminated.
(I started to speak when I was three years of age.)



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19 May 2007, 8:49 am

Where are these aspies that I own? I cannot answer until I know..



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19 May 2007, 9:03 am

I just got out of High School, the gauntlet hell-hole for anybody with AS. My reputation of insanity there literally destroyed my life in my home town (which is why I can't wait to go back to Boston for school, as well as enroll in summer classes)

I enjoy the gifts that AS has blessed upon me. In the ROM hacking community I'm known as an excellant level designer and my videos have gotten me alot of positive feedback...

The only thing I regret is the total lack of a childhood. Sometimes I feel as if my life didn't start until I was 17, and everything prior was a blur.
I would want something to repress the horrible violent images that manifest in my brain when I'm upset. I'm a courtTV nut and whenever I'm pissed I think about the people I hate the most, and using what I've learned from Forensic Files, plot ways to murder them and get away with it.

I better love life would be nice too. Or maybe somebody who is as crazy as I am.



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19 May 2007, 11:32 am

If God had given me the choice of which model brain I wanted, before I was born, I might have selected the model that the NT's have because theirs is easier to use and leads to a more comfortable life. However, after having lived with this one for 58 years, I am glad that I have the one that I have. Long before I heard the term "Asperger Syndrome", let alone suspected that I had it, I have come to the conclusion that I like myself, even if nobody else does, and would not change who I am even if I could.

There are things I which I couild control better, like stimming or having a meltdown in public; I don't mind doing them when I am alone, but I would rather that the NT's did not see it. I would also like to have some real friends (not to mention a mate) but if it came with the price of losing the abilitity to see what the NT's don't see, it's not worth it.

Part of the reason might be that I have learned how to use this type of brain. I no longer take NT's literally (in fact, I can even take a joke) and I have learned that they are capable of sayings things that are not true without even realizing that they are doing it. I think that it has something to do with filters they have in their brains that allow them to surpress thoughts and ideas, they don't want to have, simply because they don't want them to be true. I can't do that. Many of the things I see are not pretty sights and if I could surpress them, I probably would. Thank God I can't!


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19 May 2007, 9:08 pm

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why do you all like haveing AS its a horrble mental illness and i wish i was cured

Tell me, how much do you actually know about it? :roll:


Well he obviously has it, wouldn't that means that he knows quite a fair amount?

I don't think he really knows much about it, he always goes on about how it's a mental illness, how he has a low IQ like all aspies, about how he's a total spack ect.


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20 May 2007, 1:36 pm

Yes. Though I have to say that I never wanted to be normal. I always wanted normal people to be more like me. Its not about changing who I am, its about making life easier for me and being able to choose certain things.



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20 May 2007, 1:43 pm

for those who want to stop AS tendency hurting their lives, it may be possible for some of you, as it has been for me - see my website below - very best wishes
for those of you who keep thinking someone either 'is' AS or 'is' NT, it's just not that simple. The same person might make music with a violin or with a pick axe - he/she is still the same person, whichever channel they are using



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20 May 2007, 1:48 pm

Curing my AS now would be closing the barn door after all the horses have escaped. So unless that cure can be delivered via a time machine to when I was a little kid, I'd have to say "No". Curing AS now would make no difference because I would still lack the social skills that I was unable to learn because I couldn't "read" other people.


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20 May 2007, 1:54 pm

Xenon wrote:
Curing my AS now would be closing the barn door after all the horses have escaped. So unless that cure can be delivered via a time machine to when I was a little kid, I'd have to say "No". Curing AS now would make no difference because I would still lack the social skills that I was unable to learn because I couldn't "read" other people.


Xenon this is just not true. Your NT functioning capability has been there all the time - just drowned out by the huge clunking AS machine - my NT functioning has come up well - no problems - see my site - why are you tying yourself down in 'accepted truths' which are so just much ****? all best



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20 May 2007, 1:58 pm

JCJC777 wrote:
Xenon wrote:
Curing my AS now would be closing the barn door after all the horses have escaped. So unless that cure can be delivered via a time machine to when I was a little kid, I'd have to say "No". Curing AS now would make no difference because I would still lack the social skills that I was unable to learn because I couldn't "read" other people.


Xenon this is just not true. Your NT functioning capability has been there all the time - just drowned out by the huge clunking AS machine - my NT functioning has come up well - no problems - see my site - why are you tying yourself down in 'accepted truths' which are so just much ****? all best

What are you talking about? Someone is either NT or they're not. I can't teach myself to become an NT.



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20 May 2007, 2:06 pm

Sopho wrote:
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Curing my AS now would be closing the barn door after all the horses have escaped. So unless that cure can be delivered via a time machine to when I was a little kid, I'd have to say "No". Curing AS now would make no difference because I would still lack the social skills that I was unable to learn because I couldn't "read" other people.


Xenon this is just not true. Your NT functioning capability has been there all the time - just drowned out by the huge clunking AS machine - my NT functioning has come up well - no problems - see my site - why are you tying yourself down in 'accepted truths' which are so just much ****? all best

What are you talking about? Someone is either NT or they're not. I can't teach myself to become an NT.


For some people it's possible to learn 90% of the skills NT's succeed at.
But it usually takes you entirely focussing on them and not hiding inside your shell.
For me most things that didn't come automaticly have been learnable over the years.
Ofcourse you wil need a basic understanding of the social skills to learn them.
I learned those at a center for people with autism.
And afterworths with these basic skills i did my best to put these "on paper skills" into actual skills by day to day use of being amongst NT's.
Nothing comes easy, but to some people with AS they are learnable if you put your mind to it.



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20 May 2007, 2:07 pm

You're still not an NT though. You can learn to adapt to this s**t society, but if you're an Aspie, you'll always be an Aspie.



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20 May 2007, 2:09 pm

JCJC777 wrote:
Xenon wrote:
Curing my AS now would be closing the barn door after all the horses have escaped. So unless that cure can be delivered via a time machine to when I was a little kid, I'd have to say "No". Curing AS now would make no difference because I would still lack the social skills that I was unable to learn because I couldn't "read" other people.


Xenon this is just not true. Your NT functioning capability has been there all the time - just drowned out by the huge clunking AS machine - my NT functioning has come up well - no problems - see my site - why are you tying yourself down in 'accepted truths' which are so just much ****? all best


Bullcrap. AS has been shown to have a neurological basis. Your "NT functioning" is nothing more than you learning how to imitate the function of an NT. Some of us have an easier time of it than others. I've managed to do okay but I also believe that without AS, what I've accomplished in the last handful of years are things I could have done 15 to 20 years earlier if I was NT.

I'm not tying myself down in "accepted truths" -- for a very long time I knew I had deficiencies in things like being unable to "read" other people, having a lack of empathy, having a minor problem with face recognition. I've known about all this before I ever heard of AS.


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20 May 2007, 2:27 pm

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For some people it's possible to learn 90% of the skills NT's succeed at.
But it usually takes you entirely focussing on them and not hiding inside your shell.
For me most things that didn't come automaticly have been learnable over the years.
Ofcourse you wil need a basic understanding of the social skills to learn them.


Then there's that other 10 per cent...

I've been working at improving my "people skills" in the workplace. And if I can get a co-worker to scoff at my saying that I'm not a "people person" I'm doing better than I thought. But it's like having had to learn a foreign language. And the social skills "language", I speak it with an accent. ;)


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20 May 2007, 2:39 pm

JCJC777 wrote:
Xenon this is just not true. Your NT functioning capability has been there all the time - just drowned out by the huge clunking AS machine - my NT functioning has come up well - no problems - see my site - why are you tying yourself down in 'accepted truths' which are so just much ****? all best


If everything you say is true, is it possible for NTs to turn themselves autistic as well?


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20 May 2007, 2:39 pm

YES YES YES!! !! !! !! !! !! !! !
I would do so much to be normal