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26 Apr 2007, 6:41 pm

Do cats go to heaven too?

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26 Apr 2007, 6:59 pm

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Atheist.

Prove the existence of a God.

Disprove it, you do realize atheism is a belief structure just like any other.

For that matter prove the existance of George Washington, see my previous post about Ben Franklin and Fahreinheit 451.

George Washington was a real person. Such is irrelevant.

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26 Apr 2007, 10:20 pm

I see relgions as being lies.

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27 Apr 2007, 4:33 am

Oh no, I smell an argument coming.....I will personally present the steamy turd award for excellence in being the first person to mention the flying spaghetti monster in an internet religous debate

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27 Apr 2007, 4:49 am

LadyCass wrote:

0_equals_true wrote:

eDad wrote:

0_equals_true wrote:

Ragtime wrote:

Laser wrote:

I'm an atheist and proud of it.

I'm a Christian, and humble of it.

I cherished diversities. I think it's great that we have people from many different religious and cultural backgrounds.

I was responding to how he addressed himself. Holier than though. Well that is what it seemed like anyway.

I don't think so. I took it to mean that he wasn't going to shove his beliefs in someone else's face and/or show it off constantly.

Then why does he need to answer back to that guy? He wasn’t shoving his beliefs down people throats or showing off. I think people have every right to debate this as there is hardly a state that isn't some how connected to religion in some way. You can talk about showing view down people's throats. But when religious ideas are enshrined in laws and clergy get a special tax status and are given the same status as doctors when signing references allowed to sit on committees they are not qualified for and use their position to influence issue beyond what an ordinary citizen would ever have. I think people have every right to protest about that.

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27 Apr 2007, 6:52 am

Bixbeiderbecke wrote:

Oh no, I smell an argument coming.....I will personally present the steamy turd award for excellence in being the first person to mention the flying spaghetti monster in an internet religous debate

Hail meatsauce, full of beef!

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27 Apr 2007, 6:54 am

Bixbeiderbecke wrote:

Oh no, I smell an argument coming.....I will personally present the steamy turd award for excellence in being the first person to mention the flying spaghetti monster in an internet religous debate

May his noodly appendage be upon thee, my pastafarian brother.

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27 Apr 2007, 7:06 am

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27 Apr 2007, 10:13 am

Atheist since I was about 7.

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27 Apr 2007, 11:43 am

Atheist! in my industry I have to change fungicides every week just so that the fungus's don’t evolve and then the fungicide wont work anymore. these are very expensive systemic fungicides

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27 Apr 2007, 11:55 am

I am a Christian, but I don't consider myself religious. There's a BIG difference.

The Christian belief in and of itself is salvation through believing in the sacrifice of Christ. The customs of Baptist, Pentecostal, Methodist, Church of Christ, etc., however, are what I define as religion. Those customs include, but are not limited to, how you dress, how you worship, whether or not you speak in tongues, how you adress God in prayer, how you gain/sustain church membership, and what things are considered sinful, blasphemous, sacreligious, etc.. For the most part those things will not matter in the grand scheme of things. Since Christ died for all sins once and for all, it will ultimately come down to what decision you've made regarding Christ, and nothing else.

Thus I do not think religion, by definition, is important at all. If you ask me it's just another NT game for me/us to screw up at.

And by the way. Jesus WAS Jewish, not necessarily by religion, but by race. The reason he is not referred to as Christian is because the term "Christian" means "Christ-like." Thus the term "Christian" can only be applied to Christ's followers, not to Christ himself. To call Jesus "Christian" would pretty much be redundant. It would be like calling a fish "fish-like."

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27 Apr 2007, 1:05 pm

I am neither.

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27 Apr 2007, 2:32 pm

stickboy26 wrote:

AMEN to that. I am very serious about my christian faith and people often refer to me as being very religious. Religion is centered in rituals many of them becoming meaningless, I practice FAITH not RELIGION. My church is a non denonminational church that is self-governed and believes the bible to be God-breathed. When it says he created the world in seven days it means he created the world in seven days, if one believes God to be all powerful that should be easy to accept as truth instead of questioning it.

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27 Apr 2007, 2:48 pm

0_equals_true wrote:

LadyCass wrote:

0_equals_true wrote:

eDad wrote:

0_equals_true wrote:

Ragtime wrote:

Laser wrote:

I'm an atheist and proud of it.

I'm a Christian, and humble of it.

I cherished diversities. I think it's great that we have people from many different religious and cultural backgrounds.

I was responding to how he addressed himself. Holier than though. Well that is what it seemed like anyway.

I don't think so. I took it to mean that he wasn't going to shove his beliefs in someone else's face and/or show it off constantly.

Typically, when you say you're proud of something, you're saying that that is special and therefore, by association, makes you special as well. Now, the orginal comment may not have been intended that way and you apparantly didn't take it that way, but nevertheless it's highly possible that that's how the second person interpreted it as.

I have no problem whatsoever with the first or second comments. Proud, humble, whatever. That's fine. What I have a problem with is this: :roll:

. That's hardly debate. That's insulting.

As for laws, this is America. Freedom of religion. None are supposed to get a leg-up over the others. I understand the clergy getting tax breaks - they're nonprofit (or at least, they're supposed to be). They don't get paid for nine to five jobs. Nonprofit organzations get tax breaks as well.

Anyone can influence an issue. It takes time, and it takes work, but if you're determined to make a difference, you can.

If you want to protest all of that, fine. I have no problem with that either. You have that right - everyone does. But like I said earlier :roll:

is not debate, and it's not protest.

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27 Apr 2007, 3:02 pm

KRIZDA88 wrote:

Pretty much my view on the matter - I haven't been to an organised religious gathering regularly in years, yet I still try to use the values in my daily life.

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27 Apr 2007, 3:06 pm

Atheist. Both my parents are too, so I've never had to go to church.

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