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I've seen a ton of trees but I've seen a ton of grassland as well.



BINGO! You are the next contestant on the Price is Right! Come on down and take your spin. Many really don't belong there at all and that's ok. Nothing wrong with it.

I saw NOBODY who failed for any of the reasons you suggested (sleep apnea and etc) with the exception of outright laziness.

I can't see bacteria or viruses. Does that mean it isn't there? You may be right though. For the vast majority it could be party central. I just wish a peer reviewed study existed.

Since I'm the one being dissected here...
I think I've somewhat turned down my talking about uni, since possible physical limitatins on my end and the lack of people who will transfer
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That's correct, I am a significant special needs person because of mental and physical disability. Right now I get help because I'm only 17 and still under the care of my parents. I have no idea what my situation will be 40 years from now. Maybe I'll be in an institution or maybe out on the street.



I'm a senior in high school. Mind you that it's a special education school for those who can't handle real school. I tried real school for one semester in middle school and I was not able to keep up with the workload or pace, flunked and went back to special ed. I have no real idea what to do about college next year, if anything at all. I don't think I could handle regular college any better than regular grade school. There's realistically little to no chance that I'm going to attend UW on campus for 4 years and walk out with a degree. Really that's just a pipedream.

....I didn't get much of what I meant to get up.
Continuing from about where I trailed off...
Since possible physical limitations for me and the lack of people who might actually help me and this incredible covoluted-ness of the apparent process of doing it that presents itself to me Well............

I haven't followed most of your story so I'm curious what's so important about going to college at 57, that you're sobbing and lamenting over it day after day?

ASS-P, as did I, grew up with the notion that college is a "special place," where one can have freedom living in a dorm, and being among your college friends---yet not having to face full adult responsibility yet. This is no criticism. This is what college kids these days still experience. College is sort of an oasis from the "real world" in many cases.

When he was of college age, ASS-P had some very bad experiences with the mental health system. This prevented him from having the "college experience" of his youth.

It's an idealistic notion, yes. Perhaps impractical. But, if he were able to pull it off, ASS-P would have a respite from all the crap which he experiences in his life----through education.

I don't like it that he sobs and cries about it. It can sort of get on your nerves. And it's conterproductive. But it's sort of understandable

It might not take you 4 years Ezra.

Even if it takes, say, 12 years for you to get your degree, you'll still be only 30 when you get it. I didn't get mine until I was 45. My mother didn't get hers until she was 46---she's now a psychoanalyst.

I'm not a "professional." I'm a data-entry typist, and have been for 37 years. With no promotion, or the possibility of a promotion. A job similar to mine is quite within your reach. Especially with accommodations.

Your parents aren't going to throw you into the street immediately after you turn 18.

It doesn't worry me all that much. I'll keep plugging away like I always have. One thing is for sure, the idea of college dorm life doesn't appeal to me in the least. And while I'm not expecting to be put out on the street in 9 months, I have no idea what life will be like for me when I'm 57 as far as having any kind of help goes.

Well . . . I don't mean to keep talking to you about it if you're set on giving up on college, ASS-P! So don't pay attention to this post if I'm saying the wrong thing!

And I'm not sure if your reasons for wanting to attend college are because you would like to get lost in learning, or if it's because you crave the social experience, or if it's both. If it's just the social experience, what I wanted to say isn't helpful, either!

But if you want the learning experience, or if you want to accomplish a goal, I found this site for "free" courses you can take online, and it looks like they have a lot to choose from. The courses are free, but for some reason there's a discount on the first page for a verified certificate.

https://www.edx.org/

If you go to the "about us/how it works" section, the first thing they say is, "everyone is welcome", which seems more like what you're hoping for!

I get the impression that you can take courses, but you won't get a college degree from this site. If you want to show a college or an employer that you did the work, you can purchase the verified certificate when you've completed the courses.

I can't see how much the certificate costs, but I'm sure it's on the site, somewhere.

If you're wondering what good a certificate is, I was remembering that when I did manage to go to college for a little bit, there was a whole section in the entrance materials they gave me, that talked about how people can get college credit for "life experience", and I think that employers would recognize a certificate, as well. I don't think every college or university might give credit for "life experience", but some would! (The school I went to was a two year state college, and I didn't last long! )

I can't really say whether this site is good or legitimate. I just thought it might be nice if what you want is just to learn at a college level for free.

Which only leaves your tech problem to solve, as I'm sure you don't want to try to do all of your learning online on a cr*ppy phone, even if it's free! So . . . I found this site with some good links that might set you in the right direction to get a computer for free. It's worth a look!

https://www.fodac.org/links/computer-as ... echnology/

I agree with you that the whole process is convoluted and confusing, and more help would be nice! I understand your frustration, and why you're considering giving up. I hope that you get to pursue your dream, though. It's never too late to learn something! Even if you have to do it on your own, without the benefit of going to a campus and having the whole experience.

I can relate to your experience of the mental health/educational system seeming to make getting an education impossible. In my life, it started in grade school . . . getting pulled out of classes, etc. It's an injury that can't be repaired, even if the whole system sends you an apology.

I think that you being vocal about it is a benefit to the world. You're not the only one who was denied the chance to receive an education, and I hope that maybe people will read your thread, who hold the position to change this, will be inspired to do that. And I don't just mean for future generations! There are some of us old fogies who would really benefit from a little support, at long last, as well!

You can't get rid of the scars they've left. But I hope that you don't have to give up on your dream!

Either way, don't stop talking about the damage that was done to you. Your story is relevant.

...Thank you, PJ. Much of my problem isn"t about the college concept, but my physical - and economic/docial- state. My water-bloated weight from the CHF and the CHF crippled-ness . Even with just the money I have, I could get some more accomplished if I just had some help with gerring around and making connections, stuff .

You're welcome.

I understand how the physical limitations get in the way! I had to stop working in 2005 partly because of physical issues, and to this day there are a lot of things I can't do because of it. I don't know a lot about CHF, but I know it's serious, and you can tire very easily. I hope that you can find help with transportation and your other needs!

Something like CHF can really change how you approach daily life.

...If so was stoic about my loss, what I didn't have, sucked it up...Would I be rewarded for not complaing by Big Mommy (or Big Daddy) apparinng from around a corner saying " Since ou didn't complain...YOU GET TO GO TO COLLEGE!" "? While a TV game-show audience cheers and applauds? I'm old and vrippld now . If I did get to go, perhaps on a sunny day, with a cooling breeze, on a green campus, I ould feel a bit of y
The joy the younger people feel - and feel, when the breeze go's by just right, feel a bit of joy myself .







iekortie"]ASS-P, as did I, grew up with the notion that college is a "special place," where one can have freedom living in a dorm, and being among your college friends---yet not having to face full adult responsibility yet. This is no criticism. This is what college kids these days still experience. College is sort of an oasis from the "real world" in many cases.

When he was of college age, ASS-P had some very bad experiences with the mental health system. This prevented him from having the "college experience" of his youth.

It's an idealistic notion, yes. Perhaps impractical. But, if he were able to pull it off, ASS-P would have a respite from all the crap which he experiences in his life----through education.

I don't like it that he sobs and cries about it. It can sort of get on your nerves. And it's conterproductive. But it's sort of understandable[/quote]

I guess college must be a lot more of a paradise than high school. To me school means being confined to a desk and surrounded by others who can often be distracting and annoying. Outside of the classroom it's noisy crowded halls, cafeteria and playfield.

I enjoy a tranquil sunny days out on the lawn with a cool breeze blowing, on weekends and during summer vacation away from school. I don't comprehend the idea of school being some kind of dreamy utopia. To me it's always meant hard work in often unfavorable conditions. Which is why so many play hooky and I do as much homeschooling as possible.

I think school is only ever a dreamy utopia in retrospect, seen from many years down the road.