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03 Jun 2024, 7:10 pm

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03 Jun 2024, 8:37 pm

I just want to fit in so damn bad.

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03 Jun 2024, 9:23 pm

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Although I feel like I can never do those things because I'm not NT

I used to run a loading dock for a skyscraper. I was only good at it because I was ND. At the time, I was the best they had had for years. I assume somebody better has come along in the years since, but I don't know and I haven't cared to find out.

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03 Jun 2024, 9:58 pm

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I f*****g hate that I can’t be normal. It isn’t fair. I didn’t ask for this. Just give me free government money or let me die already

No one asks to be born, really.
Sources of guilt and shame, perpetuated by the stupid game, everywhere you go.

Whether it's an achievement, a trait, a status, a behavior or a habit, a possession of an object -- or any lack thereof... Doesn't matter.

Self preservation?
I don't know if it's a good thing or not, only that it has it's own imperatives that is to survive whether or not the direction it leads to is desirable.

Really.

There's accepting autism.
Which I never asked anyone to, because I know not everyone will take that path as a conscious and deliberate choice, nor is what you want.

And then there's accepting one's humanity.
Which is a decent alternative, away from the label and ideas around identity.

As far as I observed, many ignore the basis of the latter because the common assumption is that the former invalidates the latter or is a contradiction of it.

Didn't matter which party is involved.

If it's the caretaker, the professionals or themselves.
Certain ideas and concept of what human is just continuously perpetuated.

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04 Jun 2024, 2:27 pm

I just feel like NTs just coast through life and always figure things out because they’re the dominant group.

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04 Jun 2024, 2:29 pm

Human f*****g beings are support to f*****g know how to socialize. This disorder makes me barely human.

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04 Jun 2024, 5:16 pm

So, I’ll try to make myself comfortable until I die.

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04 Jun 2024, 9:26 pm

Think given the way the World is going ... think the above might be good advise...? :ninja:

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05 Jun 2024, 12:19 am

FrostBender wrote:

So, I’ll try to make myself comfortable until I die.

TBH that's more out less what the NT folks are doing. It just happens to often make us uncomfortable.

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05 Jun 2024, 12:45 am

How will you know which women are NT?

Is there some sort of exam before you hang out with them?

I'm not trying to be rude about it but really, many women don't even know their neurotype.

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05 Jun 2024, 10:08 am

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How will you know which women are NT?

From my observations, NT women tend to be overtly social. Even if they’re more introverted, they still can adapt themselves into social groups.

Plus they tend to look more attractive since they follow socially accepted beauty standards.

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05 Jun 2024, 11:27 am

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So, I’ll try to make myself comfortable until I die.

What do you think everyone else is doing? The only difference is that they don't whine so much about it.

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05 Jun 2024, 11:39 am

Benjamin the Donkey wrote:

FrostBender wrote:

So, I’ll try to make myself comfortable until I die.

What do you think everyone else is doing? The only difference is that they don't whine so much about it.

They’re out being social.

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05 Jun 2024, 11:46 am

FrostBender wrote:

Benjamin the Donkey wrote:

FrostBender wrote:

So, I’ll try to make myself comfortable until I die.

What do you think everyone else is doing? The only difference is that they don't whine so much about it.

They’re out being social.

Nah, they're mostly trying to make themselves comfortable until they die.
Being social might be part of that making themselves comfortable, but probably not the entirety of it.

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05 Jun 2024, 1:35 pm

What if I actually like masking and it doesn’t stress me out?

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05 Jun 2024, 1:53 pm

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What if I actually like masking and it doesn’t stress me out?

There's performing it as a work and a process as a means to developmentally progress.

And then there's as a means of an end goal, and just all about the end goal, whatever it is you're convinced of as 'success'.

Have you find out which is likely to happen yet?

If you do enjoy the act of it, whether you fail or not, no one is going to stop you.
In fact, that's quite an upside if acting is your thing, and improving from failures as a means to lean towards a growth mindset.

And if your source of despair is failing the some sort of end goal by being hung up on whatever end goal?
I dunno, then practice more? Git gud? :lol:

Just don't burn yourself regardless.

Sigh...
No different than one of the countless frustrated young men in this era, who cannot seem to get whatever they're convinced of what want.

They can put a blame on anything, really -- women who won't date or have sex with them, capitalism, their looks, 'being autistic socially awkward', politics, whatever conspiracy...

Then there's the 'lonely types' who just wish to be 'more human' or believe in the biological imperative to reproduce or whatever BS justification they kept telling that all humans are social animals and no exceptions exists except freaks and sour grapes. :roll:

NTs can relate to you for not getting most of what you want, actually.
Usually men of your age, your generation. :twisted:

They just don't show themselves off like the so-called "successful" NTs you kept perceiving as if that's the actual 'norm' (when it's not).

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