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No job, no friends, and on federal disability and living with my mother at 36.
Hobbies to me is not stamp collecting, music and computers. My definition of hobbies are things like skiing, snowbarding, volleyball.
If you had AS you would not say your definition of hobbies are skiing, snowboarding (btw, you misspelled snowboarding) and volleyball.
In the past I've had some moles try to lure me into manipulative traps regarding the subject so they could ridicule me in the end and be jerks.
I don't care what you wrote from the beginning because you strike me as someone who is pretending to have AS but you are really NT to start conflict.
I have this very strange instinct I've developed since childhood that has shown me alot of things about people that without it, I would be completely blind and oblivious.
That instinct is going off and the meter is red. You also have issues. You think the world should revolve around sports and what you think of as hobbies. That is rather self absorbed don't you think and limiting?
If you don't like my hobbies, fine. I'm not going to shove it down your throat. I don't like your ideas of hobbies and guess what? Others try to make me do them. Instead of bringing me pleasure, it pains me. Oh but somehow that is acceptable?

Hobbies are whatever activities you like to do for fun. I don't see why someone with AS can't have a hobby such as skiing or snowboarding.
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CockneyRebel
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Joined: 17 Jul 2004
Age: 50
Gender: Male
Posts: 118,420
Location: In my little Olympic World of peace and love
I do not have a Mental Problem. I have a neurological disorder! I am average or above in intelligence! I live on my own! I pay my own bills! I buy my own groceries! I cook my own meals! I do my own laundry! I do my own cleaning! I take public transport without assistance! I'm looking for a job! I can go on the Internet and do E-mail! I've graduated from High School, on the A-Honour Roll! I am an Aspie and I am proud!
Sid :O)
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Sid :O)
To me, you're describing Empowerment. I've never understood taking pride in a weakness, failing, illness or disease. Truth be known, the grappling that has been going on in the process to validate, and in some cases exploit Asperger Syndrome, has become disconcerting for some people. Most especially those needing support for their families to function, on the same level as their peers.
Liverbird
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Joined: 13 Jun 2007
Age: 55
Gender: Female
Posts: 1,119
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KevinLA in the process of your own denial you are asking others to forget the beliefs that are more than likely holding them together as individuals. I don't think that the AS ruined your life, but I believe with all my heart that you do. If you're a failure it's because you are unmotivated for whatever reason. Life is chance. Sometimes you win, sometimes you lose. It seems like to me that you are using your AS as an excuse/crutch. If you are wallowing in the idea that the AS ruined your life, I don't know what to tell you.
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Sid :O)
To me, you're describing Empowerment. I've never understood taking pride in a weakness, failing, illness or disease. Truth be known, the grappling that has been going on in the process to validate, and in some cases exploit Asperger Syndrome, has become disconcerting for some people. Most especially those needing support for their families to function, on the same level as their peers.
Well, you have weaknesses yourself. EVERYONE does. So what if some AS people having trouble doing some things NTs can. They can easily do others NTs have trouble with.
Anyway, not everyone is the same, on EITHER side.
I think the problem here is attitude. You deny all help and advice and seem content with your unhappiness. It has nothing to do with AS; as other people have said, there are people with AS who are successful, and some who still struggle it or try to come to grips with it. AS may just mean something inevitable that happens--you don't need to worry over the fact that it happens, so much as what you should do when it happens. No point in mulling over something you can't change; you'd just be wasting your time. Then you blame other people for being less experienced than you and therefore can't understand you--but I ask you--what does "life experience" have to do with anything? You concede that you have no friends and no job for 36 years, yet you have learned nothing from it. If you had spent most of your life trying to find friends and trying to get a job, perhaps you would have learned why you couldn't get a job or have some friends, and figured out how to deal with it--perhaps that's what you should have been doing for 36 years instead of complaining about how you have AS and can't have friends or a job and pretty much stop trying. And please, please, please, don't tell me that it's impossible for you to get a job or have some friends; there are people with AS who do have jobs and friends.
Instead of complaining and trying to make other people believe dealing with being an Aspie is impossible, perhaps you should be seeking the advice of other Aspies who are much more successful and possibly have more "life experience" as an Aspie than you do. Which also means you shouldn't judge them by their physical age.
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I don't speak for anyone else in the thread but I understand where Kevin is coming from.
I have seen people that complain about how people treat them ,yet the appear to do nothing, or think that it's the NTs that are the problem.
I say to these people that they should try counceling, therapy and seeing a doctor for advice and guidence.
I am a person of the strong feelign that people should not complain about something they are not willing to take action against.
I have shown certain threads in this forum to my Non-Aspie friends, and they are, quite frankly, disturbed by the seperationist, almost militaristic attitudes of some people here.
I say to those who think they cannot change that you CAN.
I have changed, I have overcome my weaknesses and disabilities.
If i can do it, there's no reason you cannot.
I say to anyone who considers Aspergers a difference, DON'T.
DON'T consider yourself different.
DON'T condemn yourself to an Us/them mentality.
you are all human beings, you are all people.
I have Aspergers, schizophrenia, Agoraphobia, and a severe Anxiety disorder BUT I concider myself no different from my fellow man.
Despising Neuortypicals is the same as Racism and Sexism. It is self-segregation, nothing more.
If you have a problem that holds you back, you should FIGHT it.
Fight your social inabilities, fight your ideosyncracies.
Change and learn, learn and adapt, adapt and evolve.
*waits to be shot down in a ball of flames*
Sid :O)
To me, you're describing Empowerment. I've never understood taking pride in a weakness, failing, illness or disease. Truth be known, the grappling that has been going on in the process to validate, and in some cases exploit Asperger Syndrome, has become disconcerting for some people. Most especially those needing support for their families to function, on the same level as their peers.
Well, you have weaknesses yourself. EVERYONE does. So what if some AS people having trouble doing some things NTs can. They can easily do others NTs have trouble with.
Anyway, not everyone is the same, on EITHER side.
Yes, I don't think I'm ashamed nor proud. But I hope to remain flexible and willing to work on some of them.
Sid :O)
To me, you're describing Empowerment. I've never understood taking pride in a weakness, failing, illness or disease. Truth be known, the grappling that has been going on in the process to validate, and in some cases exploit Asperger Syndrome, has become disconcerting for some people. Most especially those needing support for their families to function, on the same level as their peers.
Well, you have weaknesses yourself. EVERYONE does. So what if some AS people having trouble doing some things NTs can. They can easily do others NTs have trouble with.
Anyway, not everyone is the same, on EITHER side.
Yes, I don't think I'm ashamed nor proud. But I hope to remain flexible and willing to work on some of them.
Or yeah, I'm working on mine also. Some have just seen little progress, and NOW I know why!
but like some here can do math problems really quickly, etc... Should you get depressed and struggle if YOU can't? NO WAY!
Sid :O)
To me, you're describing Empowerment. I've never understood taking pride in a weakness, failing, illness or disease. Truth be known, the grappling that has been going on in the process to validate, and in some cases exploit Asperger Syndrome, has become disconcerting for some people. Most especially those needing support for their families to function, on the same level as their peers.
Well, you have weaknesses yourself. EVERYONE does. So what if some AS people having trouble doing some things NTs can. They can easily do others NTs have trouble with.
Anyway, not everyone is the same, on EITHER side.
Yes, I don't think I'm ashamed nor proud. But I hope to remain flexible and willing to work on some of them.
Or yeah, I'm working on mine also. Some have just seen little progress, and NOW I know why!
but like some here can do math problems really quickly, etc... Should you get depressed and struggle if YOU can't? NO WAY!
True. Also remain aware, there can be a number of reasons for the difficulties to finding success. For Synesthesia, it has been reported that lexical (language) to digital transcoding could be evident. Manipulatives can help some learners, and there are lots of them at a company called:
Mindware
http://www.mindwareonline.com/MWESTORE/ ... ePage.aspx?
(I love parlor games!)
Sid :O)
To me, you're describing Empowerment. I've never understood taking pride in a weakness, failing, illness or disease. Truth be known, the grappling that has been going on in the process to validate, and in some cases exploit Asperger Syndrome, has become disconcerting for some people. Most especially those needing support for their families to function, on the same level as their peers.
Well, you have weaknesses yourself. EVERYONE does. So what if some AS people having trouble doing some things NTs can. They can easily do others NTs have trouble with.
Anyway, not everyone is the same, on EITHER side.
Yes, I don't think I'm ashamed nor proud. But I hope to remain flexible and willing to work on some of them.
Or yeah, I'm working on mine also. Some have just seen little progress, and NOW I know why!
but like some here can do math problems really quickly, etc... Should you get depressed and struggle if YOU can't? NO WAY!
True. Also remain aware, there can be a number of reasons for the difficulties to finding success. For Synesthesia, it has been reported that lexical (language) to digital transcoding could be evident. Manipulatives can help some learners, and there are lots of them at a company called:
Mindware
http://www.mindwareonline.com/MWESTORE/ ... ePage.aspx?
(I love parlor games!)
My biggest problems are things like catch(Not enough interest or non judgemental/patient people to help really, not that I care anyway)(I tried doing it myself, and got to a GREAT point! GREAT success



You seem nice, and I hope you and those you know with AS get along well and find a nice broad common ground where you can all be happy!



You seem nice, and I hope you and those you know with AS get along well and find a nice broad common ground where you can all be happy!
Different sizes of medicine balls might help. But be careful, as the bigger ones can hurt. When I did an after-school sports program with children, they unanimously loved field hockey! Getting past a certain point socially, can be especially difficult, depending on the environment. For us, the informal gaming stores worked well to have those with the same interests and motivations to socially interact. Nowadays, social groups with planned activities, are another good approach for some people.
Thanks. Yes, I can be nice (easy) or not (hard), it depends on the situation and circumstances. I do have all kinds of friends, however few and far apart we are in all my moving and travels with my husband in the USAF. He's retired now, so we don't have to move around so much anymore.



You seem nice, and I hope you and those you know with AS get along well and find a nice broad common ground where you can all be happy!
Different sizes of medicine balls might help. But be careful, as the bigger ones can hurt. When I did an after-school sports program with children, they unanimously loved field hockey! Getting past a certain point socially, can be especially difficult, depending on the environment. For us, the informal gaming stores worked well to have those with the same interests and motivations to socially interact. Nowadays, social groups with planned activities, are another good approach for some people.
Thanks. Yes, I can be nice (easy) or not (hard), it depends on the situation and circumstances. I do have all kinds of friends, however few and far apart we are in all my moving and travels with my husband in the USAF. He's retired now, so we don't have to move around so much anymore.
MEDICINE balls? I wouldn't have a problem with those, though I DO have a bad back, and aorta, so I would take it easy. Socially I get by ok, it is just past a point that I have a problem.
Well, I didn't say you were a sucker, just nice. And your profile says that you have a family member with AS.
yeash.. this has turned into quite a debate. personally, i'm all about self-acceptance. i don't need to pretend to be NT in order to have friends or be successful. in fact, i have quite a few NT friends that have learned to accept me as an AS person. the way i see it, if an NT can't accept me having AS, they're not worth knowing in the first place.. i mean, i don't expect NT people to become more like an AS person in order for me to be friends with them.. lol. so why would i think it's ok for them to make me change who i am before they'll be friends with me?? just because someone has AS doesn't mean they'll never have friends or get a life unless they pretend to be NT...
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Well, I didn't say you were a sucker, just nice. And your profile says that you have a family member with AS.
Yes medicine balls, but with a bad back you might not be able to use them at all.
Soft Mini Hand Medicine Balls
http://jumpcut.com/view?id=C009AF727552 ... 0423CF037A
Haha! Good catch! Most people don't know it, but I can be a sucker. Yes, my son was dropped from Special Ed in June 2004, and is doing great in HS Marching Band Drumline. A specialist from Austrailia discovered his most significant remaining deficit was in proprioception. The Martial Art of Fillipino Stick Fighting with a Feldenkrais certified instructor, helped tremendously. Also, teaching him to eat with chopsticks at a very young age when he wouldn't write, helped to develop fine motor skills for writing.
The Feldenkrais Method of somatic education
Awareness through Movement Classes
http://www.feldenkrais.com/
I wonder how many times vorzak is going to lob insults and degrading remarks to people on this forum. he sounds like a narcissistic bully.
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