Albert Einstein is not your poster boy!

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Not to make any statement about the Einsten-as-our-poster-boy topic, but just a piece of information to supplement:

I understand that the above is widely used and rather popular reasoning for the use of nuclear weapon against unarmed populations for the first time in history. However, it does not explain why the decision to drop the bomb in Japan had been made 9 months before Germany even decided to surrender*, among other things.
*In case you need reference, you can find it in the papers made public by the US government.

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I once saw a documentary in which it was asserted the war was about to end anyways.

What I know about the end of WW2 is that it was the result of the nuclear attacks that led Emperor Hirohito to raise the white flag and call it quits (a quite bold and courageous act IMO because the military government could of easily forced him to shut up).

No, it wouldn't warrant a diagnosis because it's not strong enough to get you one.
Although, apparently now "shyness" is a psychological disorder. Thank you pharmaceutical companies.

Of course not, but we can get very close about what we know about him. He's said and done a lot of things that can equate to autism.


We have the potential to be like that which costs NTs a lot more time, so you could say that we are.


Excellent, now what does that have to do with whether he was autistic or not?

Hmm, in that case Liane Holliday Willey was cured before she ever got diagnosed...

I can imagine: "Will you marry me? I'm an aspie seeking a cure..."

This is the popular justification excuse that you Americans were brainwashed by it, it's the most stupid excuse ever that only projects the stupidity and the naiivity of who believes it. Now I can see that the Israeli logic of :"Massacring loads of civilians to prevent more losses of civilians" was originally inspired from your government. No wonder that Darth Vader is your avatar =).

The bombs could be used against military bases and Japanese army were losing anyways and with the nuclear bombs they would be devasted, there's no excuse for their use against civilian cities.
The real reason of its use is to repositioning the US in the world , to implement in all nations' s minds that the US is the strongest nation ever.

Now excuse me , I shall leave....because there's some stinky smell in this thread.

I'm not advocating the bombing of anyplace, with either nuclear or conventional arms...... I was simply correcting what I saw as a misinterpretation of fact.

Germany was all but defeated. We had them cut off from strategic supplies and retreating. The defeat of Germany was not in question, it was only a matter of months and some straightforward military actions to accomplish it. We had two bombs and no material ready for any more, using them on Germany was counterproductive.

Japan still had a viable fighting force and the victory in the Pacific was very much in question. The ability and courage of the average Japanese soldier was so great that taking territory from them cost us far more than taking territory from the German army... Additionally, a "strictly" military target is almost nonexistent today, much less at that time. A large military base almost always has a large civilian population outside it, to support it. For example, Norfolk, Virginia is one of the largest naval bases in the world, and a primary military target. The same for San Diego, California. Hiroshima and Nagasaki had military bases and/or strategic factories producing war materiel. I think Hiroshima also had some feature that made it an attractive target... location or terrain I think. Either way, both had military significance. I still consider it to be a terrible thing, as did most of the men involved in the drops, several committed suicide in the years following.

And you're correct, Odin, it did take a great deal of courage for Hirohito to do what he did.

The bombers that carried the bombs flew at a height which most weapons couldn't reach, and which other planes weren't capable of. They could have targeted a fleet out to sea, or any one of a number of other targets. They could have lied about the number of bombs they had, or could have built more. They did build more, after the war which had just ended, when the money would have been for rebuilding, it was spent on making a nuclear arsenal.

Hiroshima and Nagasaki were production facilities, not miltary bases. They had military bases, true, but there were a great deal more civilians than soldiers. They were targeted because the size of the city, and the way it was built meant that the bomb would be most effective at killing the most people possible. They dropped the bomb, not targeted where it would do the most damage to the production facilities, or the military base, but where it would do the most damage to the people and the city.

The bomb was actually being dropped over houses and homes, not barracks and bunkers.

But arguing over the past is not going to change it.

i dont see why you would care if someone sais albert was an aspie. its not like there following you around 24/7 saying albert einstien was an aspie all day

WHAT DID YOU SAY BOYyyy!!

There is no scientific proof that I have Aspergeers either. He science oriented thinking and his lack of "the gift of the gab" makes him closer the the autistic spectrum the avarage man.

Have a read of thinking in pictures,Einsteins' own family say he sent a letter to a mum,detailing his nvism.

NTs are jealous because Einstein has more autistic traits than normal traits

I remain fairly convinced that Einstein was on the Autistic spectrum. There's quite a bit of evidence suggesting this.

It's been my experience that NT's don't like the idea that some of the worlds most brilliant/successful people fall on the spectrum.

None of this explains his hair.

Thirty years before the Beatles.

He were an odd duck!

This says all.
Seriously "not talking because of not having anything to say" is outrageously stupid. Which I keep hearing to describe Einstein.

I am sure they don't care.

Most scientists are closer to the autistic spectrum. Scientists have an ability of teaching themselves. That is how they create new things. When an NT mind learns science he can only learn what you have tort him and often sound very intelligent because they can remember large amounts of text.

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