Do I have aspergers syndrome? (yes I know you're not a Dr.)
ASPERGER'S SYMPTOMS
Hated wearing jeans till 12 when I made myself wear them. Until then I only wore sweatpants. wore non sweatpants pants maybe a total of 3 times when I had to go somewhere formal. Still wore them even though I was made fun of (untill got made fun of to much then made myself wear jeans, after a while I got used to them)
Had no friends didn't care In sixth grade
Did homework at recess in fifth grade.
Depression-Kind of diagnosed by a psychiatrist. apon finding out this isn't normal I think I have always had it. Not feeling depressed actual depression. this wasn't a very official diagnosis but Its pretty much a given that I have it.
talk bad, words many times do not come out as intended. ie something happy comes out mad or sarcastic or just weird. Sentences lack transitions.
Lots of scripted phrases I will use when I don't remember what I was saying When little I always used to ask what time it was. And now I will just say "food"
Will say things insulting by accident without realizing/ one sided conversation/ seem to try and control conversation. ^this is a definite I know I do this I try to stop but its hard.
If I try to stop I usually talk to little.
Intense day dreaming- thought this was normal till found out about this and remembered people mentioning I will space out for very long periods. Only happend once (them telling me that is) The person said "you know you space out for like 20 minutes at a time, I notice you do that allot. Does it seem that long to you?" I may daydream longer than I realise but never kept track.
I think I have more empathy than usual example My relative died and I felt like I was the one deing. I didn't care toooo much for relative but after that I just thought I was going to die. What I really thought was I had slipped into a coma and that I WAS HER only i was her dream so that when people talked about her that was actually me they were talking about and I heard it in my coma ^yes I know this is very wierd.
Usually get very interested in only one thing for a while. A certain sport, movie, tv series, video game. During which I will be interested that thing almost exclusively and for a good period of time days to weeks to months to years.
When younger always saw people and asked myself "Why are they acting like that?" or "Why would you say something like that?" in relation to small talk and stuff It all seemed pointless and useless.
"I could understand the words, but something was going on underneath the conversations that I didn't understand. I couldn't understand why people were interested in the things other people said."
"It was like everyone else had a handbook on how to think and act, and I and I didn't"
Tried out for tv station in 6th grade when they asked me to smile I did but I guess It wasn't enough. they said "no, more than that" so i smiled completely and just held a really big unnatural smile for the whole time. They thought I was joking at first. I didn't really get it. If asked to smile for a picture I would try but they always said "no smile normal" So I would just manipulate my face till they shut up. (resulting in weird smile pictures)
entire classes would think I was weird. Wore very short shorts for a long time untill someone mentioned they weren't cool. I had often thought they look cooler than me there shorts are longer but never was able to put it together. ie they seemed to know how to dress normally naturally I had to try consciously.
When younger was often described as annoying.
Always telling people "yo tell me if I talk to much or about something boring"
They say they will but I will find myself rambling about a topic they care nothing about and they look ticked off but never tell me I am annoying them Then they just stop hanging out with me.
Ocd when little undiagnosed didn't let different foods touch each other, was very meticulously clean. Everything organized how I liked it every single time I moved it Could not sleep before I did this. Couldn't get a little bit dirty or I would flip out just couldn't stand having like a stain or spilling some water on my shirt. even just a little icecream on my hand. Had to touch things evenly if I touch left I had to touch right ect.
Only used one specific favorite pencil for a few years changing pencil everyone in a while I would buy the exact same one meticulously.
collected shotglasses cant drink (way to young started collecting when like 10)
Zero social skills by 11. could not hold conversation with peers had zero friends and like 3 acquaintances total 2 of whom later told me to go away because I was uncool/annoying/wierd. To make friends I would turn to them and state some random facts. "I like this soda, this and this" the person would usually turn to someone els and ask if I was "ret*d".
Followed rules to a t when little. more than normal I was one of those kids who would not breath without asking permission (not literally of course)
taught myself how to be better in summer before I turned 12 Watched people carefully and consciously worked that in my head so That I knew what to do. Did this and became about half adept. Sometimes I was watching people so closely I would mimic them as they did something without realizing this. Resulting in looking like a weird copy cat kid.
Rehearsed and practiced various social situations before school when I was 12. Would talk to some girls and people would say I was flirting with them when I was just trying to speak normally.
I would rehearse different possible social interactions so I could do them normally. I did this allot before school trying to make sense of social aspects of school. Cliques hierarchy ect.
Friends often had to point out weird things I did such as teach me how to walk. I used to walk very stiff and my arms never really move at my side naturally but I have learned sort of how to swing them normally. Usually keep hands in pockets when I don't think I am doing it right.
Always wondered if other people did what I did only they did it (consciously learn this ) faster/better or if I was in some way different.
I never understood class clowns when young I wondered why they did what they did. It seemed pointless and a waste of time to say things that didn't teach someone something. Other kids thought they were funny.
Never got or liked recess except playing an organized game like soccer. This rarely happened so I usually just walked around.
Could not do things without specific instructions. Ex shop class the teacher wouldn't give specific instructions so I never really did anything and always felt very lost as to what I was supposed to be doing.
Move wierd. to hard to explain. I would describe it as a strange cat, bouncey and maybe described as perfect balance as a result of lack of balance
Tendency to vocalize thoughts when talking instead of sticking to what should be said that sums up the idea broadly I will rant about one thing.
Simple question receives complex answer. That does not further conversation. Every detail must be explained resulting in many tangents.
Walked around at recess in school (older than 3) collecting rocks and pretending I was a gargoyle this consisted of toe walking. Didn't have any friends didn't care.
Collected rocks for a long time. Did not care about the science behind rocks didn't even care if rocks looked good.
Collected knives without caring to much about quality or how they looked.
Bought allot of wierd knives I didn't even really like. Didn't really care about knives.
would only use one specific bowl to eat cereal when little
Hand writing is horrible looked up asperger writing samples and they look almost exactly the same.
Preferred to talk to adults apposed to peers when little.
voice at times is just flat, jumpy, or just sounds weird. usually monotone and deep if around people I don't know or jumpy if around people I do.
Hated change of plans or routine or surprises. Dad surprised me with trip to toys r us to buy video game and didn't like it.
very shy when little
I know knone here is a doctor or even if they were that they could diagose me
I just don't wanna make an appointment (if I ever find a freaking doctor) and make a fool of myself or waste my money.
I make an appoinment with a psychologist (psychoanalitical) to see what he said
He asked me what made me angry, and about my family relations Ie how do I get along with mom.
He didn't ask me one symptom or anything about my social life.
He then gave me a test he wants me to take (a personality psych profile test)
how the hell can this tell him if I have aspergers.?
Am I right and this guy is a nut?
He was basically playing a chess game with me He changed personality when my mom came in and said "WELL ME AND NAME TALKED AND THAT WONT BE DISCUSSED ABOUT WITH YOU" then went on and told a few stories about suicidle people
hard to explain but basically he was trying to get my mom to think I was suicidle So she would bring me back and he would get more money.
So those are my questions was that nut job doctor just messing with me or what
and what do you think about my symptom list
and one last thing just what is a diagnosis like and is there anyway to get a diagosis with or without a psych profile
I really really hate being analyzed.
Thank you so much if you read this I appreciate you're feedback greatly.
Wow, pretty much everything you said has to do with Asperger's. In school I didn't have nor cared about having friends too.
Psychologists always ask questions like that. Sounds like he has no idea what Asperger's is. You need to find an ASD specialist.
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I didn't bother reading it, but here's two very simple things [to tell if you have AS or not]:
1: Do you lack appropriate to and fro conversation? This means you usually talk at people in a one-sided and lecturing manner, as you have nothing "social" to draw upon (you usually talk about the subject in point 2), or not bothering to interact at all, as you also have nothing "social" to draw upon.
2: Do you have an interest that is obsessive in nature that you pursue above all else (I do mean, above all else)?
They're the two core areas of AS, everything else is just window dressing (I don't know what that term actually means, "window dressing", but I know it fits and conveys what I intend).
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1: Do you lack appropriate to and fro conversation? This means you usually talk at people in a one-sided and lecturing manner, as you have nothing "social" to draw upon (you usually talk about the subject in point 2), or not bothering to interact at all, as you also have nothing "social" to draw upon.
2: Do you have an interest that is obsessive in nature that you pursue above all else (I do mean, above all else)?
Just to point out, you may have these in varying severity.
Whether or not you are AS "proper," it certainly sounds like you are on spectrum somewhere. I agree that you should seek a diagnosis if you are having trouble with life and can't get on by yourself. It sounds like you should ditch your current doctor and seek out an ASD specialist.
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I think there is nothing wrong with the guy you spoke to, you are just speaking to the wrong guy. He's a psycologist, he isn't meant to disagnose you with anything, he's meant to talk with you about your feelings and try to resolve them, or explain your actions to you from an emotional veiwpoint. People experiencing emotional turmoil their defense mechanisms cannot deal with are meant to talk to psycologists. You need to talk to an ASD specialist or a psychiatrist.
That's his job btw and psychiatrists will also do this. They treat you in ways that should provoke an emotional response or they tell a joke and observe your facial expressions.
When you get around to talking to a specialist, try and act how you would have done at 12. Drop any learnt behaviours that you have to think about and act instinctually, if that means having a flat face and not doing much then so be it. Remember, you're not showing these people how far you've come, you're trying to show them what is missing or wrong. Doctors meet patients who are hypochondriacs all the time, so they sadly can't take your word for things, you need to show them.
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Can't really tell you, because I'm in the same situation. I believe I do but am not sure. I will eventually see a ASD specialist.
"Hand writing is horrible looked up asperger writing samples and they look almost exactly the same."
Mine is horrible too. I was able to find some samples of AS children and I compared them to some school journal entries I had as a kid that I got from my mom. They look the same. I'd like to see some samples of adults with AS, though. Could you maybe post the links?
Anyone know how to find a specialist? Like is there a website or something easy like that? Or just good old searching the web for hours lol.
Depends where in the world you are. Try googling local support group sites, for instance if you were in Britain the NAS would be a good start. If you are stuck for how to start, perhaps just type "Asperger your country information" into google, and that should get you going.
You should certainly see an ASD specialist if possible. If you continue seeing this particular practitioner, and wish to raise the issue with them, you could cut n paste and then print your Opening Post and give that to him (perhaps remove Aspergers Syndrome Symptoms heading and see if he is able to make the connection himself). If he does not raise ASDs at that point, you could then ask why he is not considering that.
It is probably best if you see an ASD assessment/diagnostic specialist of some kind though.
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We are diagnosing by hand-writing now? okays...

If your handwriting is like mine you can join our prestiguous club

My wife must have a severe case of ASD, in that case.

"Honey, what does 'wilted terriers' mean on the grocery list?"
"Oh... you mean 'washed spinach'"?
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We are diagnosing by hand-writing now? okays...

If your handwriting is like mine you can join our prestiguous club

Are you by chance a left-handed?
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