1 in 100 people in USA are Autistic! HAHAHA

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Warsie
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06 Oct 2009, 6:03 pm

There's less neurotypicals to outnumber us :rambo:
http://www.guardian.co.uk/lifeandstyle/ ... lts-autism
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/10/0 ... 09290.html


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06 Oct 2009, 6:13 pm

I graduated from a class of 150, and I don't think any of them were autistic! Oh, wait....


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06 Oct 2009, 7:32 pm

Warsie wrote:


Noooooo. That means we are outnumbered 100:1

One in 100 to 150 people are on the spectrum. This is a well know figure.



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06 Oct 2009, 7:53 pm

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One in 100 to 150 people are on the spectrum. This is a well know figure.

That sounds ridiculously high IMO. It should be more like 1 in 1000. 1 in 100 sounds like a scare tactic created by Autism Speaks.

BTW, I saw this disgusting Autism Speaks commercial on TV the other day...


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06 Oct 2009, 8:04 pm

I'm not surprised. I am sorta surrounded by them, personally.



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06 Oct 2009, 8:18 pm

poopylungstuffing wrote:
I'm not surprised. I am sorta surrounded by them, personally.


oh, Poopy, you are a weird magnet. . . :D


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06 Oct 2009, 11:27 pm

1 in 100 people have an ASD.

People with NVLD/"mild" AS will come under this heading, and they have about as much in common with someone with Infantile Autism as someone with OCD does, and that's not much.



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06 Oct 2009, 11:59 pm

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1 in 100 people have an ASD.


But this includes every type of ASD.

What I would like to know is the distribution between the high-functioning forms and the real severe cases.

If we believe the article that 40% "recover" after 17, and we assume that only half of the original diagnosed were Aspies (the other half being low functioning forms of ASD), the prevalence of Asperger's in the adult population would be only 1 in 500. This number doesn't even take into account that the "recovered" 40% are likely over-represented by the former high-functioning forms. So, Asperger's may not be as prevalent as it seems.



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07 Oct 2009, 12:08 am

Danielismyname wrote:
1 in 100 people have an ASD.

People with NVLD/"mild" AS will come under this heading, and they have about as much in common with someone with Infantile Autism as someone with OCD does, and that's not much.

Right, which is why the number really is fairly meaningless. Unless, of ocurse, you are a group like Autism Speaks and you get money from fearmongering.


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07 Oct 2009, 12:37 am

AJY wrote:
What I would like to know is the distribution between the high-functioning forms and the real severe cases.


I'm betting those that "recover" didn't actually have the disorder in question, and this is why it's important to have an assessment later on in life (young-adult), in addition to the one as a child.

Anyway, from my memory you have:

AD makes up 1/4 of the spectrum; 1/4 of these have an IQ over 70, and they're what are usually called HFA (see: Rain Man)
AS makes up another 1/4 of the spectrum
PDD-NOS makes up the other half, and this can range from severe to mild (more are in the mild)

I'd say that nearly all with AD would be considered severe, even those with HFA, and a goodly portion of those with AS could be seen as severe in regards to adult-outcome as they're similar to those with HFA (at least 50% of those with AS), even if they don't look as obviously "autistic". Throw in some severe from PDD-NOS....

But, one needs to give a definition on "severe". Some see Rain Man as "severe", but he's high functioning as far as the majority of AD go, and many with AS have a similar outcome, even if again, they don't look as "obvious".



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07 Oct 2009, 1:16 am

They do have a problem with autism being a meaningless word, it translates to, not a mental illness but different in thought and perception.

One in a hundred people are different! Give me millions of dollars! We must have Universal eye contact!

The answer is in Science, there is no cure, but there are ways to induce autism, it is the only way to make everyone the same.

Only our secret program has a 40% recovery rate, shrinks and drug pushers are around zero.

If we had the funding, we could raise that 40% a lot.

The gap is, they try to change different, we work to make different functional.

They have chosen to lump all ASDs in one group, they have only an outsider view, so we should not draw lines among ourselves. One in a hundred and growing, and counting the wild ones who slip through the system, girls and such, more like one in fifty.

The apparent recovery rate is much higher in girls, so our point count is going up.

There is a standard for recovery, a benchmark we can use.

Obama just gave a Billion for research over the next decade, to NTs, to study what other NTs have written, and we know all those studies, and what was wrong with them. None of them have a clue about the thought process, and I agree with the Markrams that it is a reaction to a stressful world, noise, lights all the time, very different from our long and recent past, and there is a watershed of response, NTs socialize more, ASDs less, from the same stress.

Like DDT, Dioxens, PCBs, Metals, Lead in gas, Love Canal, we do not notice what we are doing till the problems appear. Then we try to stop the spread, and clean up the past. We need a Superfund cleanup program for our way of life.

It is very understandable that we are the ones who do suffer from smells, sounds, the electronic load, and if we stay on this path there will be many others. We got the Phosprous out of soap, we can remove the perfume.

All of the places where people live to be very old, and healthy, happy, are very quite.

We report the problems, and get called different, but everyone is affected to some degree, and some of those are bees who fly away and never return, I have done that several times, I can relate. For many the loss is 90%, which means our crops will not have the bees to do the needed work, and there goes our food supply. The hives are clean, the remaining bees healthy, but most left.

Autism is only a symptom of a larger problem, and only we can find the answers.



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07 Oct 2009, 6:40 am

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In another finding, nearly 40 percent of the children ever diagnosed with autism disorders didn't currently have autism, the parents reported


Is that statement true? Can someone's autism go away? Or is it maybe they we're misdiagnosed, or are the parents in denial, or maybe the child learned how to mask and function with it? I never heard it can cure itself. Heck, I've been waiting 40 years for it to cure itself.

Then again maybe my folks we're right. Maybe I do "just need to grow up and get over it." :lol:

The 1:100 seems high to me. But I base that on no known scientific basis whatsoever other then I personally know one other person with AS and I must have known thousands of people over my life time. Then again, I am not very perceptive when it comes to people.



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07 Oct 2009, 7:17 am

Victory is ours!! ! :D


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07 Oct 2009, 7:28 am

Autism doesn't go away. The structure of the brain is mainly make up in the first 3 years since bornday. Simply as it is:

- basically al child are "autistic" or have some "autistic" trait, some grow up before, some later.
- growing up means that you have time to understand the world and learn how to cope with the world.

Once autistic ever autistic. Yet growing up, basically every autistic became "more functional" and probably the ones already functional learn to mix them between the NTs. That's why many guys where DX HFA, then Aspe during adolescence. I've read somewhere (I don't remember where) that 20% of the adult Aspe fail to be DXed. But fail to be DXed doesn't mean that your brain has changed but it has "adapted".


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07 Oct 2009, 7:47 am

The last couple years I've been developing, nowadays I appear normal to people, my social skills are great (Or at least I did, my back troubles are as of recently making me walk funny). But I know it's still there, even though I can act normal and etc.


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07 Oct 2009, 8:44 am

There was a survey in the UK, I read on BBC's tele text, that showed that 1% of the adult population are autistic, same as in children. So now they seem to have proved once and for all that vaccines don't create autism.


I've heard that 50% of the people who are diagnosed with an ASD are Aspies, but I don't know the distribution of PDD-NOS, HFA, atypical and MFA/LFA.