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TomAdams92
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28 Oct 2009, 12:30 pm

do like most aspies come from austrailia?



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28 Oct 2009, 1:12 pm

It's you. :wink:



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28 Oct 2009, 1:16 pm

I think Australia just has a much better detection and treatment system as well as socialized healthcare. In comparison, detecting special needs individuals through the education system and health system in the USA seems to be very problematic. A child of a lower income familly, going to an underfunded school, can slip through the system easily. If their issues are recognized, then they still may not receive proper treatment if treatment is required beyond the classroom setting.



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28 Oct 2009, 1:26 pm

That would be difficult to determine. It's certainly enough of a problem there to have convinced the Australian government to investigate the incident rate and adopt a plan of action. I think they are far more advanced than the USA and offer more and better services. And of course, they have Doctor Attwood on their side.

Here is their official site:
Autism Australia

THis comes from another source and is from 2001. It's interesting but not necessarily accurate as it is the extrapolated rate based on population andworldwide incident rate available in 2001

Autism in Oceania (Extrapolated Statistics)
Australia 39,826 WARNING! (Details) 19,913,1442
New Zealand 7,987 WARNING! (Details) 3,993,8172
Papua New Guinea 10,840 WARNING! (Details) 5,420,2802

Full extrapolated report:
Extrapolated Prevalance of Autism Worldwide

I'm certain there are people on this board better equipped to speak about this than me. Danielsmyname and Callista perhaps.



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28 Oct 2009, 1:45 pm

TomAdams92 wrote:
do like most aspies come from austrailia?


Then, ask yourself...where do most Australians come from?



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29 Oct 2009, 9:50 pm

Maybe you're thinking of asptrailia.

TomAdams92 wrote:
do like most aspies come from austrailia?


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29 Oct 2009, 9:52 pm

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Maybe you're thinking of asptrailia.

:lol: :lol: :lol:
It could just be that there are more Australian Aspies online than others. Speaking as someone who knows of many, many Aspies over here in the States.


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29 Oct 2009, 10:01 pm

The folks from down under do seem to be disproportionately represented here on WP. However, I would imagine this is pure coincidence. Like Aurore said, we're everywhere. Heck, at one point, there were 4 of us living in my house (split between two separate apartments).



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29 Oct 2009, 10:08 pm

i thought there seemed to be a lot of scandy aspies...



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30 Oct 2009, 5:09 am

There do seem to be a lot of Americans here too, but that isn't surprising with 300m people living there.


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30 Oct 2009, 5:41 am

There sort of is.

We have fantastic doctors/mental health professionals.

And of course, the Tony Attwood debacle. In his effort to make a name for himself he diagnosed every man, woman, child and their dog with AS and got many others in the field to do the same. There are alot of 'Attwood Aspies' out there, they may have AS, but they may just be a tool and misdiagnosed for selfish reasons. It worked, he is now considered the god of AS, the downside, the condition is pretty much a joke from outside perspective because of the over-diagnosing and 'add-style' hype.



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30 Oct 2009, 6:42 am

j0sh wrote:
I think Australia just has a much better detection and treatment system as well as socialized healthcare. In comparison, detecting special needs individuals through the education system and health system in the USA seems to be very problematic. A child of a lower income familly, going to an underfunded school, can slip through the system easily. If their issues are recognized, then they still may not receive proper treatment if treatment is required beyond the classroom setting.



It may be problematic, but not for the reasons you're lead to believe. As the old saying goes: "Believe nothing of what you hear, and only half of what you see."

I'd get into it further, but I don't think that's the point of this thread.



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30 Oct 2009, 10:43 am

Australia is a bigger country than the US and certainly a lot bigger than the UK. It seems logical that they would have a higher proportion of people with Austic Spectrum Disorders.



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30 Oct 2009, 11:03 am

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Australia is a bigger country than the US and certainly a lot bigger than the UK. It seems logical that they would have a higher proportion of people with Austic Spectrum Disorders.


Um, Australia is the 6th largest country in the world with a population of 22 million.
The US is the 4th largest country with a population of 307 million.
And the UK is 3x bigger in terms of population than Australia with 61 million.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_co ... total_area
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_co ... population

You're just slightly off there.


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30 Oct 2009, 11:17 am

Vyn wrote:
EnglishInvader wrote:
Australia is a bigger country than the US and certainly a lot bigger than the UK. It seems logical that they would have a higher proportion of people with Austic Spectrum Disorders.


Um, Australia is the 6th largest country in the world with a population of 22 million.
The US is the 4th largest country with a population of 307 million.
And the UK is 3x bigger in terms of population than Australia with 61 million.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_co ... total_area
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_co ... population

You're just slightly off there.


Well, there's my geography for you :lol: .



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30 Oct 2009, 12:17 pm

j0sh wrote:
I think Australia just has a much better detection and treatment system as well as socialized healthcare. In comparison, detecting special needs individuals through the education system and health system in the USA seems to be very problematic. A child of a lower income familly, going to an underfunded school, can slip through the system easily. If their issues are recognized, then they still may not receive proper treatment if treatment is required beyond the classroom setting.

Also, issues are only issues if they bother the teacher. If the stims are subtle and the child is silently ostracized and miserable, it doesn't bother anybody except the child who cries themselves to sleep every night, so who cares?

My mom said she was always surprised that my teachers didn't complain about me, but that as long as they didn't complain, she figured nothing was wrong. Even if I was lying on the floor crying, telling her I was so miserable, I couldn't take it anymore. That couldn't be serious. My constant frustration, wanting to die in elementary school, being angry and miserable and lonely.. none of that could possibly mean anything if my teachers didn't complain about me. :roll: