It is considered acceptable to be a creep, but not a loner

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It is also acceptable to be a jerk or weirdo, but not a loner.

Does this not make sense to anyone besides me?

It makes precisely -1 sense to me either.

It makes sense slightly. People fear what they dont understand. If people dont know you, they may fear you. Its unpredictable for them. When i went to TAFE (form of tertiary education here) i was fairly quick to become friends with the other guys my age in the class. But there was one other guy who never tried, he always sat by himself and kept to himself. We didnt know anything about him, just that he wasnt even trying to fit in. These guys couldnt understand why. I could understand but still not fully identify with his reasons, meaning i was less likely to judge him but still didnt feel comfortable talking to him.

In high school, girls can be like this. They may think someone is weird cos they are a 'loner' but when (or IF) they start any communication with this person it stops bothering them. If that person is weird, that may bother them. But the unpredictability is gone, making you more acceptable.

Id say if people dont like you as a loner, then why not try being weird or a jerk. What have you got to lose, right?

Since when is it acceptable to be a creep?

You haven't been around creeps who have friends? I see it all the time. For example, I have seen guys who have raped or assaulted women who have friends that know about it and don't seem to care.

It is not big deal to those things, but being a loner is looked down upon.

Last edited by KevinLA on 01 Nov 2009, 9:23 pm, edited 1 time in total.

I was labelled as a loner at school. I understood this and it didn't bother me.

I did make some effort to 'fit it' and belong......like a lot of us here........but I didn't really have any friends at school.

What is strange, looking back now, is that I WASN'T labelled weid and of course..........I didn't know that I was weird.

I'm not sure which quality, loner or weird, interfered with my ability to sociaize, but in my case at school, they came as a pair, so in my case, I just dont't know.

Depends on what you mean by creep...

The creep is probably one of the most universally despised beings in the human race. I know from personal experience .

I disagree. I find people who are too angry or weird are talked about behind their backs in a negative and unaccepting fashion. Loners are merely "quiet".

But feel free to support your thesis. Loners are probably less acceptable than the perceived norm.

fortunatly being a loner I don't care what others feel is acceptable

"Yeah, I knew him. He was a very quiet person, always kept to himself."

This phrase is often used to describe:

A. A Nobel Prize laureate
B. A human rights advocate
C. A serial killer/mass murderer

Any guesses?

Loners make people feel creepy because they are an unknown variable.

Someone who chooses to be totally apart from whatever group is in question may also be perceived as intentionally snubbing the others out of a sense of superiority - a snob.

I was told many times as a teen that I was thought of as "standoffish" and it puzzled me no end. I wasn't trying to reject anyone, I just don't have the natural inclination to start conversations with people I barely know. It was more comfortable for me to sit in the corner and read a book or draw.

"Loner", "Kept to himself", "Never talked to anyone" We all know those cliches...another mythical stereotype that is actually far from accurate, but its what comes to their minds when you don't participate in their party.

When I think of a 'creep' per se, I think of someone like what Wallowitz from Big Bang is parodying, who comes on inappropriately and too aggressive and doesn't know when to take "Piss off" for an answer.

Are you by any chance in Los Angeles as your nickname implies, if so that may be why. I was only there for a few weeks but it was the singularly most oppressive place I've been and I do believe many men in LA think the opposite of creep/jerk is not 'good man', but loser. Awful.

For some reason, yes. It doesn't make any sense to me, though.

It's not acceptable to pathologize solitary people. Forensic psychologists do it and the media quotes them. I don't understand where the psychologists are coming from. The vast majority of people displaying criminal behaviour are well liked, what people call "sociopathic" and some can get away with their behaviour for years and years because everyone loves them so much, they are in high positions of power, they have money, they are married with families.
Most people are not loners. If loners were the only criminals, there wouldn't be much crime, would there? Sociability or lack of it has little to do with criminal behaviour.

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