The most ignorant statement of all time

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28 Dec 2009, 3:23 am

"There lives an autist in everyone".

What do you think? :lol:



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28 Dec 2009, 3:44 am

Well, it's certainly ignorant, though maybe not the MOST ignorant.

Autism isn't a way of life like this implies, it's in the brain from birth.



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28 Dec 2009, 3:59 am

I find that very ignorant. Even a bit offensive as if whoever wrote that statement simply needed to put some filler into his work and so he used some cut-off word from autistic. And his statement isnt even true, as I am sure that some self-induced obese McDonalds eating couch potato ( I didnt want to use offensive words) doesnt have any autistic traits in him.



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28 Dec 2009, 4:05 am

I'm not sure that it's really all that ignorant to be honest. I mean, when I explain things to people, most of them can relate to some degree or another. Almost everyone has things they do when nervous, or feels awkward time to time, or says the wrong thing in situations, etc. It's just how extreme it is that leads to the diagnosis.

*shrug*

Since I am not others, I cannot tell, of course, how much it really effects their lives, but they are able to relate to some extent to me. Some are very organized and go ballistic if that is messed up, some people hate plan changes, some people have a lot of quirks, some have collections of odd things, or obsessions. Not many of them are diagnosed, because they can move on from one thing to the next, or adjust when they realize it, or cope with it better than I do.

There is still a blockage in a lot of areas for full understanding, but it is rather interesting at times when observing others, just to try to gauge why I am the one diagnosed... and to try to figure out exactly how much more extreme I am with things-how much more do they effect my life vs. how the same things effect someone else.

A lot of people have some really quirky habits, but are also attuned to the world around them, and are aware of what is acceptable and what is not... so they are able to stop themselves. That, is what sets me apart a lot of the time, it seems. If I try to watch what I'm doing all of the time, I get worse and worse at dealing with things, and my ability to cope quickly deteriorates the more energy I use to try to keep it under control.

But some of the most interesting people I've met, the most fun, and the most accepting, are also the most bizarre in many ways around me, but not the slightest bit around others. They are able to mask it, able to control it, and are able to blend in with no problems.


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28 Dec 2009, 4:31 am

What if it was that statement but opposite of autism.
And in every autistic is______


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28 Dec 2009, 5:05 am

LuxoJr wrote:
What if it was that statement but opposite of autism.
And in every autistic is______


I think that would be a lot worse. I don't want there to me an NT in me, the way that they've treated me, my whole entire life and the way that my NT family members are still treating me.


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28 Dec 2009, 6:27 am

I think It Hilarious

Its funny.

Technically it is a compliment because it is a word play on: THERE IS A LITTLE BIT OF AN ARTIST IN EVERYONE

and there need not be negative connotations connected to the ARTIST. It should only mean that even the least imaginatave person can be creative. And like wise an Autist (Im laughing out loud) would mean that even ordinary people can have a superior skill of their own that is connected with autism. funny.

Of course you may have heard it coming out of context from a forked tongue. Not enough info to establish why you find it so offensive. Its funny.


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28 Dec 2009, 7:14 am

I think "Autistic people don't have feelings" is a more offensive and ignorant statement.



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28 Dec 2009, 7:52 am

bdhkhsfgk wrote:
"There lives an autist in everyone".

What do you think? :lol:


The most recent researches are in the direction that autism is a dimensional thing, not a categorical thing, then it is probably correct to say that everybidy has autistic traits.



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28 Dec 2009, 8:45 am

It's no more or less ignorant than any other baseless generalisation.



28 Dec 2009, 9:49 am

I assume that means everyone has traits of it. I find that to be true. It does seem like lot of people have traits.

Lets see, I have noticed that even normal people lack theory of mind, are black and white, lack empathy, also miss the overall picture and ironically I think I am better than them in those areas. They even have their own sensory issues and they are also inflexible and rigid and they also have difficulty with change.

Sometimes it feels like I have switched places with people. I am the normal one and they are the autistic ones.

Sometimes people amaze and I am like how can they not get this? I get it so why can't they?

Oh yeah, people thinking bad of people who don't want to have kids and they just can't understand why someone doesn't want children. Even after that person has explained why they don't want any, people still don't get it. There is lacking TOM and here is me that actually does get it and I do understand. What is wrong with the picture here?

People who miss the overall picture, they meet someone and they are so focused on their flaws, they fail to see the person and what kind of person he or she is. I however can see the overall picture because I do not judge.

If people didn't lack empathy, there be no jerks and bullies in the world and criminals. People be more caring and understanding. I can choose to lack empathy but I lack it for certain people. Just only the bad ones.

I have had rigid teachers, they be too inflexible to teach things in my way so I can learn. It was their way or the highway. Also I have seen at AS Partners about how inflexible the "NTs" are. They think their aspie partners lack empathy and they are bothered by how they show affection just because their affection is planned or scripted, especially when their aspie partners do nice things. They are so inflexible, the things their aspie partners do isn't good enough because their minds work different and they aren't showing empathy the normal way so therefore they "lack it" and therefore they are "cold hearted" because the things they do are planned or done by scripts in their heads because they had learned the behaviors. The "NTs" want it all to be natural for their aspie partners, not planned or scripted and no forced empathy or forced affections and "I love you's."

Yep who's autistic now? :P



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28 Dec 2009, 10:22 am

I wouldn't call it ignorant. 'well intentioned but slightly dumb' might be a better description....



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28 Dec 2009, 5:10 pm

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I think "Autistic people don't have feelings" is a more offensive and ignorant statement.


So do I. I have even been accused of faking my autism because I loved my (late) granny. Um... people with autism CAN love their granny... The other statement does annoy me (although I've heard it in a different phrase) because I think it downplays the difficulty people with autism/AS have to face every day. Heck, that's just my opinion.


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28 Dec 2009, 9:18 pm

Makes no sense the the so called inner child


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28 Dec 2009, 9:21 pm

I hate it when people say we have no empathy.



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28 Dec 2009, 9:23 pm

I think it's a reference to how perhaps no one is 100% autistic or 100% NT.


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