Has anything at all been scientifically proven about AS?

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26 Oct 2009, 9:13 am

Or is everything based on the presentation of the symptoms only?


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26 Oct 2009, 9:28 am

How do you mean scientifically? It's known the disorder lies on the 2nd chromosome and there are plenty of comorbid disorders that accompany in high rates, but I'm not sure if that has anything to do with what you're asking. Are you asking for purely neurological/genetic differences?


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26 Oct 2009, 9:31 am

Autopsies of autistic, Asperger’s, and normal brains by Margaret Bauman and her colleagues reveal that in both autism and Asperger’s there is immature development of the cerebellum, amygdala, and hippocampus, it isn't all symptoms.



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26 Oct 2009, 9:32 am

I'm asking about evidence of any brain differences proven in the lab...don't know how to explain myself, sorry...


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26 Oct 2009, 9:49 am

What is "immature development"? Easy English, please... :oops:


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26 Oct 2009, 9:52 am

Greentea wrote:
I'm asking about evidence of any brain differences proven in the lab...don't know how to explain myself, sorry...


Where do you think autopsies are performed? In laboratories...where evidence is "proven" in such labs as medical, hospital or scientific!

"immature" means "not developed" in what is considered normal.



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26 Oct 2009, 10:10 am

Zsazsa wrote:
Greentea wrote:
I'm asking about evidence of any brain differences proven in the lab...don't know how to explain myself, sorry...


Where do you think autopsies are performed? In laboratories...where evidence is "proven" in such labs as medical, hospital or scientific!

"immature" means "not developed" in what is considered normal.


And if they were developed in something different? How can they be so sure?


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26 Oct 2009, 10:21 am

Asmodeus wrote:
Autopsies of autistic, Asperger’s, and normal brains by Margaret Bauman and her colleagues reveal that in both autism and Asperger’s there is immature development of the cerebellum, amygdala, and hippocampus, it isn't all symptoms.


Now did these autopsies come from people with autism as a result of the genetics or a result of something else like vaccinations? And was there any difference between severe autism and Aspergers?

Cerebellum would explain clumsiness right? Do you know what all those portions of the brain do?


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26 Oct 2009, 10:29 am

amygdala is for fear instinct and sleep.
hyppocampus for long-term memory and spatial orientation.


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26 Oct 2009, 11:00 am

Autism has been demonstrated to have a genetic basis and it tends to be inherited from the mother. As Asmodeus mentions, there are definite brain differences. Nothing special, just under-developed areas.

You can always go with intertube rumors and fear-mongering, though, if you don't trust science.



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26 Oct 2009, 11:08 am

I might be wrong, but I was always taught that those experiments merely suggest rather than prove anything.
Again, I could be wrong, but in the scientific community, proving something is in the realm of "fact".

But I don't know.



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26 Oct 2009, 11:37 am

david_42 wrote:
Autism has been demonstrated to have a genetic basis and it tends to be inherited from the mother.


Only the mother? I've heard of cases when a father gets diagnosed with AS after a child gets diagnosed. I would think this would indicate that a father can pass on those genes too.



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26 Oct 2009, 11:45 am

Jono wrote:
david_42 wrote:
Autism has been demonstrated to have a genetic basis and it tends to be inherited from the mother.


Only the mother? I've heard of cases when a father gets diagnosed with AS after a child gets diagnosed. I would think this would indicate that a father can pass on those genes too.


I believe that is why he said tends. However, I know mine came from my father's side of the family.

It is very difficult to locate an exact gene responsible. We are still looking for those responsible for countless other disorders. It wasn't until recent years that the gene for my daughter's condition, Rett Syndrome was found. They have also found, even more recently, that there are girls with RS without the MeCP2 mutation.



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26 Oct 2009, 11:51 am

So far as I can configure, in my family, I get it from my mother's side, and my girls get it from their mother's side, and my mother's side gets it from her father's side.... according to my cousin's baby momma's sister's brother-in-law's cousin...lol.


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26 Oct 2009, 11:52 am

The more i learn about AS, the more convinced i am that i inherited from my mother. Of course it would be good to find statistics.


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26 Oct 2009, 11:57 am

veiledexpressions wrote:
I believe that is why he said tends. However, I know mine came from my father's side of the family.

It is very difficult to locate an exact gene responsible. We are still looking for those responsible for countless other disorders. It wasn't until recent years that the gene for my daughter's condition, Rett Syndrome was found. They have also found, even more recently, that there are girls with RS without the MeCP2 mutation.


The thing is, it may be multiple genes rather than just one. And there must be a reason why autism varies in degrees from low to high functioning. The evidence seems to suggest that the same genes responsible for autism is also responsible for AS.