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10 Mar 2010, 3:15 am

Since there are all these threads going on about aspie pride, I decided to ask NTs if they take pride to being NT.



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10 Mar 2010, 8:29 am

No.

I'm proud of things I accomplish and overcome. I'm not proud because I belong to a "group", such as being NT, or being a woman, or being a mother, etc....



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10 Mar 2010, 9:07 am

Nope. I take pride in some things I do, but I am in a constant battle to improve myself and my way of thinking every day.



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10 Mar 2010, 9:54 am

No. I feel good about what I've actually accomplished but am indifferent to being NT, white, Polish whatever. Those things don't make me good or bad, they just are.



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10 Mar 2010, 10:02 am

Well the thing is people aren't put down for being NT, they are however put down, bullied, etc for being different. People can be different for all sorts of reasons, whether it's being autistic, gay, different skin colour, etc. By saying they are proud I suppose they are really saying that they're ok being different.



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10 Mar 2010, 10:17 am

Pride in being different is kind of like feeling superior.
I think.



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10 Mar 2010, 11:06 am

Absolutely not. As a matter of fact, given all of the negative bias against NTs on here, I don't even want to be lumped in with NTs. I would consider myself to be "none of the above" but unfortunately that is not a choice in the profile selections. I am proud of my individuality and, like others who posted above, my accomplishments.

League Girl, thank you very much for asking :D This is the first time anyone on here has ever asked me how I feel about something, and I appreciate the opportunity to share.



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10 Mar 2010, 11:50 am

DenvrDave wrote:
League Girl, thank you very much for asking :D This is the first time anyone on here has ever asked me how I feel about something, and I appreciate the opportunity to share.
Those silly autistics!



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10 Mar 2010, 12:23 pm

I had never even heard the term until I came on here. Wrong Planet is actually the only place where I even think of myself as "NT". There is neither pride nor shame nor any feeling attached to the label for me. It is nothing more than a convenient moniker to let other posters know that even though I am posting on Wrong Planet, I am not on the autism spectrum. Once I log off, it leaves my head.



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10 Mar 2010, 1:38 pm

Well I would think the question should be more aptly put as "Do you feel glad that you're normal?" Like, for example, many people spend their entire lives trying to be "accepted" and "blend in" rather than stand out. I would take that to indicate that they "take pride in" or prefer to be normal, average, accepted.

It isn't about belonging to a group. I don't think many aspies take pride in the fact that they are part of a group of people. It's about what sort of things you prioritize in life. If your prorities in life, or the things you enjoy doing, are social-related (making friends, going to parties, getting along with people, fashion/trends, being popular/respected/famous/having authority, etc) - you enjoy being NT. I believe that would be more of a direct paralell to what others mean when they say "aspie pride."

Get what I mean?



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10 Mar 2010, 5:00 pm

Not really, NT's have their own quirks, fears, things they are good at or not so good at. I think all of us are just trying to get by and be the best that we can be with what we have been given.



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10 Mar 2010, 7:17 pm

mitharatowen wrote:
I don't think many aspies take pride in the fact that they are part of a group of people.

I take comfort it in it. That I can come here and talk about my issues that others can relate to, because in the outside world I am told to shut up and not to make my problems sound worse than they are.

I am glad that are NT's that come here and give us some insight of how others may see us, so we can avoid upsetting and misunderstanding them.

I also believe that NT's are also capable of being as smart or insightful as people with ASD/ADHD/dyslexia. And that creative people were also NT, though a lot can seem to have traits of ASD/ADHD/LD, and I also believe that some creative people could also have full blown ASD/ADHD/LD.


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10 Mar 2010, 9:48 pm

pensieve wrote:
I am glad that are NT's that come here and give us some insight of how others may see us, so we can avoid upsetting and misunderstanding them.



Me too. I also like having them here because they can tell us why things are the way they are such as the time one of my friends here asked why can't people be direct when they give us requests. Why do they make them vague? Another NT answered that saying it makes them feel like they are treating us like children and that we are stupid. So we have to tell them they need to be direct or else they won't know.

We need NTs here to tell us their side of the world and why things are the way they are so we understand.



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10 Mar 2010, 10:10 pm

MommyJones wrote:
No.

I'm proud of things I accomplish and overcome. I'm not proud because I belong to a "group", such as being NT, or being a woman, or being a mother, etc....


Exact same answer I had about if I'm proud to be an Aspie.


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10 Mar 2010, 11:03 pm

ursaminor wrote:
Pride in being different is kind of like feeling superior.

What would pride in being the same be like?



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11 Mar 2010, 12:54 am

ursaminor wrote:
Pride in being different is kind of like feeling superior.
I think.


For some it might be.

But it's usually because there are many uses of pride. The one that normally comes up in gay pride, disability pride, etc. Is not the same as the usual definition. It means roughly, being okay with yourself, not being ashamed, not feeling inferior, despite the fact that you are one of a group of people who are normally oppressed, pushed down, and made to feel like utter crap about being different.

It's a totally different idea than pride in an accomplishment and usually has nothing to do with feeling superior although there are those in every group who will feel superior.

Asking about being proud in that way of being nondisabled makes no sense really because nondisabled people are not oppressed or made to feel like crap for being nondisabled. Not on the same all-pervasive way disabled people are. So it doesn't really work to talk about that kind of pride in this instance.


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