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18 Mar 2010, 6:40 am

I saw a thread here that asked "do you feel unhappy if other people around you are unhappy?"

My question here is
Do you feel angrier when someone around you does something bad to someone else(eg is abusive or does something to hurt someone physically?) when they are similar to you in some way?
Do you feel like "since that person did or said something that was bad that makes me a bad person since I have similar traits to them?

I tend to have the problem of feeling like just because that aspie or that victorian is one of those people that thinks the world resolves around them and treats everyone else like crap as a result of it, then that means that I suck.
I tend to feel like the negative actions of the peoples that are similar to me, (victorians, aspies, young people, I am victorian, young and have AS) reflect badly on me and make society think that I am a bad person, this is illogical because I don't think the good actions of similar peoples to me reflect good on me. I don't feel like "since that person does regular charity work that must mean I am a good person".


Does anyone else think like this?



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18 Mar 2010, 6:53 am

Yes, I have observed this sort of concept in my son, myself, and even my dad. I always thought of it as sort of being open to suggestion or 'gullible' though those are not quite right - not that I would do something because someone tricked me.

I have actually found that as I get older and learn more I have detached myself somewhat - at least in certain situations - so that this happens less. The negative of course is I do not make as many connections with people, BUT I have found I am emotionally more stable over the long term. It is a battle.

My son gets in trouble at school, I believe for the same reason - when I talk to him about it, it seems to be that those behaviors are driven off the other kids at school - the things they say or do.

Then my dad, he would never admit anything, but it appears that he does the same - if he talks with someone that he respects or is important to him, and that person has serious negative words to say, it stays with him. He will mention it several times later, and his mood/attitude change. In contrast, I have learned to control this better - I still have the tendency, but most of the time now I can avoid this change in mood based on other people.


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18 Mar 2010, 11:14 am

Nope, I haven't experience this yet, I wouldn't even be able to tell if someone has AS or anything based on observation alone, since ALL human interaction and s**t, both NT and otherwise, is an incoherent jumble to me.


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18 Mar 2010, 11:24 am

I feel frightened and threatened, when people around me are angry.


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18 Mar 2010, 12:10 pm

CockneyRebel wrote:
I feel frightened and threatened, when people around me are angry.


I tend to piss them off more, because ill just respond with a straight face.

(I think my keyboard is about to go bust, and I can't afford a new one. :/)


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18 Mar 2010, 1:56 pm

CockneyRebel wrote:
I feel frightened and threatened, when people around me are angry.


Exactly the same - like a dog with its tail between its legs. I always feel like I am, or am going to be, the object of their anger.

I also feel the same with people in uniform, and especially people in uniform with guns like airport security.



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18 Mar 2010, 3:35 pm

CockneyRebel wrote:
I feel frightened and threatened, when people around me are angry.


Seconded!


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18 Mar 2010, 3:42 pm

Depending on the situation, normally I would be pretty upset when someone around me is angry and sometimes can be quite frightening that I wouldn't be able to say alot of words at all.


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18 Mar 2010, 4:49 pm

I get extremely stressed when someone who I do not know starts talking to me for any reason.
It is even more frightening if I think I have done something wrong or the person is a police officer.
If it is someone I know well and a person that agitates me regularly I get angry too because I feel somewhat violated in my personal space.



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19 Mar 2010, 1:45 am

I think I get it. Not sure I take it in the same way. Case in point burned into my psyche:

Years ago a very person very dear to me was horribly wouned in the psyche. That is all the detail you get. The person who did the wounding.[who was unaware of the damage] was in the same field as I am. I was devastated and howled driving home - literally. Partly recognizing that I might easily [with no intent whatever] have caused the same pain. If the wounder had only been an economist, I would only have felt for my friend; as it was, I felt implicated by association. It still hurts.



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19 Mar 2010, 1:48 am

the last few years i've tried to just pray and visualize peaceful vibes for the angry people i see around me. i pray that providence may provide them some soothing perspective on their problems. i have not seen anybody like myself anywhere so i can't say that i've gotten torqued over the actions of another person who reminded me of myself.



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19 Mar 2010, 4:51 am

Philologos, the case you mentioned is the kind of thing I am talking about.
I do feel implicated by association when someone similar to me does something wrong.
thankyou for your posts peoples.