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16 Apr 2010, 9:43 pm

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16 Apr 2010, 9:55 pm

Excellent Link

"In politics, science always gets diluted"



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16 Apr 2010, 10:09 pm

I think autism has nothing to do with vaccination.



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16 Apr 2010, 10:15 pm

First of all, I'll say, I consider myself neutral in this debate. What explains a kid acting perfectly normal and then out of nowhere the kid relapses and becomes autistic. I do think there are more studies that need to go into this. I will also say this though, even if vaccines don't cause autism, the s**t they put into vaccines must have some kind of effect on someone. We're talking radioactive mercury here.



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16 Apr 2010, 10:19 pm

dt18 wrote:
First of all, I'll say, I consider myself neutral in this debate. What explains a kid acting perfectly normal and then out of nowhere the kid relapses and becomes autistic. I do think there are more studies that need to go into this. I will also say this though, even if vaccines don't cause autism, the sh** they put into vaccines must have some kind of effect on someone. We're talking radioactive mercury here.
my shots didnt contain radioactive mercury


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16 Apr 2010, 10:27 pm

dt18 wrote:
First of all, I'll say, I consider myself neutral in this debate. What explains a kid acting perfectly normal and then out of nowhere the kid relapses and becomes autistic. I do think there are more studies that need to go into this. I will also say this though, even if vaccines don't cause autism, the sh** they put into vaccines must have some kind of effect on someone. We're talking radioactive mercury here.


I'm not sure what this statement means. Of course anything has "some kind of effect".
But the question isn't about "some kind of effect", it is a question of "what is that effect" and "is that effect negative"?

As of yet, there is no data that shows any statistically significant negative effects of modern vaccination technology.



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16 Apr 2010, 11:54 pm

Mercury isn't always Mercury.
If Thimerosal doesn't metabolize into free metal than it is
probably safe. Mercurochrome used to be used instead of
Iodine for cuts. It does NOT metabolize to free metal and
it DOES speed up healing and DOESN'T STING like Iodine.
Mercurochrome cannot be sold in USA but can be carried
in, for limited amounts. --- Mercurochrome is probably less
toxic than iodine, although I wouldn't do the experiment
to prove it. Mercurochrome is a big molecule (like
Hemoglobin), with only one atom of metal. The toxic
elements in salt are 10 times more concentrated, but
salt isn't even considered a hazardous material at all.

My exposure to heavy metals is massive amounts of lead,
and only the mercury in my fillings. I was aspie/autist before
that exposure and I have only noticed a speed decrease in
my creative work in the past couple of years which doesn't
seem related. I really don't know in what way the metals
affected me, and I do have unusual self-awareness (not
too unusual, but I noticed my social awkwardness as early
as 5 years old in an abstract way). My lead exposure is a
consequence of my intense special interest in advanced
technology, which until recently always had lots of lead
in it. Also, cars used more gas in the past and there
was lead in the gas and free metal in the smoke from it.

Vaccines ... my guess is that Viruses might have
some kind of autoimmune effect if there is a connection at
all, but to be honest I don't get every flu shot every year,
because I am concerned about side effects, Not pain from
getting a shot. So I do practically relate to the theory that
vaccines cause autism but feel moderate about it. Actually
I was more concerned about the paralysis side effects of
swine flu shots, which is very rare, but lameness is a Lot
worse than autism.