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06 Aug 2009, 8:16 am

Internalization(def):

keep a problem inside: to deal with an emotion or conflict by thinking about it rather than expressing it openly

Are people on the spectrum, more likely to internalize things than those who aren't? Most on the spectrum I would assume are more cautious when it comes to interacting with others, and one could deduce that they internalize more environmental stimuli than others.


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What are your thoughts on this????



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06 Aug 2009, 8:38 am

Would you say internalizing is more like an echo chamber than a sounding board. I know that is a weird analogy. Someone more eloquent please!

I know that I will replay a social interaction over in my thoughts and never ask an opinion about it if something is confusing.



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06 Aug 2009, 12:01 pm

The quote just sounds like psychobabble gobbledegook, much pontification saying nothing.

To speak to what I believe was your original topic, however - yes - in my experience, problems processing social interaction at the same speed as the NT leaves me at a disadvantage in any confrontation, either physical or verbal. So, indeed I do internalize almost everything, especially pain, frustration, anger - because to engage in open debate with a hostile NT leaves me bullied and beaten down. If you can't win, why fight?



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06 Aug 2009, 12:24 pm

I'd say I internalize things that confuse or hurt me until I understand what happened well enough to explain if neccesary. Though, in my case it's to get my head clear and or calm in order to be coherant to others. I've been told that not many people can understand what I'm saying when I'm distressed or confused.



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06 Aug 2009, 1:28 pm

Willard wrote:
The quote just sounds like psychobabble gobbledegook, much pontification saying nothing.

To speak to what I believe was your original topic, however - yes - in my experience, problems processing social interaction at the same speed as the NT leaves me at a disadvantage in any confrontation, either physical or verbal. So, indeed I do internalize almost everything, especially pain, frustration, anger - because to engage in open debate with a hostile NT leaves me bullied and beaten down. If you can't win, why fight?


You all make good points, but in reply to willard. Lets assume the psychobabble is correct. What would explain an ASD best. The fact that the social interactions are wrongly internalized or the fact that some cannot take it to the next level ie. externalizing what has been internalised?



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06 Aug 2009, 9:58 pm

i_wanna_blue wrote:
You all make good points, but in reply to willard. Lets assume the psychobabble is correct. What would explain an ASD best. The fact that the social interactions are wrongly internalized or the fact that some cannot take it to the next level ie. externalizing what has been internalised?


I'm sorry, I can't even begin to answer that because the quoted statement makes no sense to me. Wrongly internalized how? Internalized what exactly? Internalized in what sense? I just find the usage of language in the original statement to be utterly nonsensical. It sounds like something translated from English to Japanese and then back again by different translators.



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06 Aug 2009, 10:05 pm

Willard wrote:
The quote just sounds like psychobabble gobbledegook, much pontification saying nothing.


I wouldn't go so far as saying that, but I will say that it is a less than profound excerpt that souns like it might come from a textbook than a medical journal.


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07 Aug 2009, 3:47 am

Willard wrote:
i_wanna_blue wrote:
You all make good points, but in reply to willard. Lets assume the psychobabble is correct. What would explain an ASD best. The fact that the social interactions are wrongly internalized or the fact that some cannot take it to the next level ie. externalizing what has been internalised?


I'm sorry, I can't even begin to answer that because the quoted statement makes no sense to me. Wrongly internalized how? Internalized what exactly? Internalized in what sense? I just find the usage of language in the original statement to be utterly nonsensical. It sounds like something translated from English to Japanese and then back again by different translators.


It's ok it doesn't matter. :lol: I guess i'm trying to make everyone see from my point of view, which I myself am confused about an incapable of trying to put into words.

Ok lets forget the quote and look at the definition of internalization.

"Internalization(def):

keep a problem inside: to deal with an emotion or conflict by thinking about it rather than expressing it openly."


Would it be fair to say that people on the spectrum would internalize rather than speak up?



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07 Aug 2009, 4:46 am

i tend to internalize a lot of stuff.



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07 Aug 2009, 8:27 am

I actually tend to express myself more than msot NTs. I thought it was also pretty common for a subgroup of Aspies to be more blunt/direct than NTs.



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08 Aug 2009, 10:34 am

*droopy irisrises enters*

*is droopy either because of hot weather (doesn't like) or because of not eating much wed noon to fri noon, or because of emotional trauma, the daily humiliation/ frustration as well as a new fear that her future husband will treat her the way her mother did - she knows she sets herself up for it, being attractive and accommodating and virtually mute, thus most useful to people who want to use her as a prop*

*wants to talk about internalization - finds topic most relevant, doesn't understand why it got cut off so quickly*

I mull things over very much and the conclusions I reach about what things and people really mean are rarely the same conclusions other people reach, which I only find out on those few occasions when I share them verbally.

Mostly, what happens if I do or say something, by some strange coincidence what I said, thinking it was a correct interpretation, is understood in a very different manner to what I intended, and is considered entirely appropriate. A weird kind of social skill. It would only take a very, very small tweak of her brain for those responses to be rejected out of hand instead.

I guess I do have good language skills but - they camouflage more than they communicate, it seems. Either that, or people are too blinded by prejudice to hear me out.

And when I get upset I'm very blunt, which nobody wants to hear at all.

Oh, I have a lot to say about internalization, but if I'm going to construct good sentences they won't be relevant to my thoughts.

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10 Jun 2010, 9:02 pm

I must bump this thread.

My friend has told me before "You never have felt anger in your life". The truth is I do feel anger. I just bottle it up inside. Perhaps it has to do with my usually peaceful nature, perhaps it is something else, but I internalize my anger. When I internalize my anger it tends to warp my thoughts like a methamphetamine. More than once in my life I have found myself chasing some fantastic ideal partly because of my repressed rage. Nowadays I find myself struggling to hold onto sense as my anger keeps trying to seduce me over to the dark side.

I am immediately reminded of the section of America: The Book that describes the way radio personalities get their stories as "combining methamphetamine with the part of the brain that hates".



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10 Jun 2010, 9:12 pm

It depends on WHO I'm with.